Bills sign Jordan Poyer (to PS)

[BillsFanForever19]

 

[Simon]

13 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

 

So... signing Von to a huge contract is the same as signing Jordan Poyer to the veteran minimum?

 

 

Yes, they're virtually identical.

Although there is an argument to be made that there are better examples, such as Evel Knievel's deal with Caesar's Palace or even Cyndi Lauper's contract with Capt Lou Albano.

 

[Scott7975]

This is just like with Hyde last year. He is there more to be a vet to learn from that knows the system better than anyone and help coach up some young guys.

[blacklabel]

9 hours ago, chris heff said:

“Hey Mable, Black Label.”

 

Want to see how old you are.

 

Old enough, haha. That one doesn't ring a bell, tho. I'm born in 82. The "blacklabel" screen name comes from a song from a metal band. I think I've been using it here and there since like 2004? Yeesh haha. 

[3rdand12]

9 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

okay. I am cool with that

 They are retiring him as a Bill regardless of the season

Yes,  he might hit the field at some point out of necessity.
 But i feel better about this now. For more than one reason  

10 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

Yes, they're virtually identical.

Although there is an argument to be made that there are better examples, such as Evel Knievel's deal with Caesar's Palace or even Cyndi Lauper's contract with Capt Lou Albano.

 

The fact that you reminded me of such things I had long forgotten , and gladly so . Makes me feel uncomfortable in some odd way ?

[Simon]

6 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

The fact that you reminded me of such things I had long forgotten , and gladly so . Makes me feel uncomfortable in some odd way ?

 

That's just your mortality whispering in your ear.

Don't worry, when you're a little older you'll be too deaf to hear it. 

[3rdand12]

1 minute ago, Simon said:

 

That's just your mortality whispering in your ear.

Don't worry, when you're a little older you'll be too deaf to hear it. 

Well i can already barely see it

Half way there

Thanks Simon for the support  😋

[NoSaint]

25 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

This is just like with Hyde last year. He is there more to be a vet to learn from that knows the system better than anyone and help coach up some young guys.

Sign him as a coach - you can have as many as you want. 

[3rdand12]

13 minutes ago, blacklabel said:

 

Old enough, haha. That one doesn't ring a bell, tho. I'm born in 82. The "blacklabel" screen name comes from a song from a metal band. I think I've been using it here and there since like 2004? Yeesh haha. 

birthed in 82 huh

 Old Enough?

 Possibly

But Ye Olde Folkes here

are from well before Blacklabel's fine metal

How about the Beach Boys ?

and early Beatles ? those Grateful Dead even 

 

we got some honest to goodness Ancient relics here to listen/learn from 

Go Bills

 

 for a distraction

 

 

 

1 minute ago, NoSaint said:

Sign him as a coach - you can have as many as you want. 

wondered same , The thinking.

 He might have to play. thats a concern for some of us. me

[Governor]

2 hours ago, 3rdand12 said:

That's no excuse. 

 They should know where tf they should be. 

Simplify enough for the players , and that opens up your ability to draft and FA

 

It's Coaching. to the bolded.

 

and thats the shame of bringing in a player who is physically washed.

Play fast hit people. know your assignments.

 

If the system is so complex that only a few long time bench players and retired players can play in it, it should’ve been tossed years ago, and all signs now point to it being the reason Josh has been denied of multiple SB’s.

[NoSaint]

4 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

birthed in 82 huh

 Old Enough?

 Possibly

But Ye Olde Folkes here

are from well before Blacklabel's fine metal

How about the Beach Boys ?

and early Beatles ? those Grateful Dead even 

 

we got some honest to goodness Ancient relics here to listen/learn from 

Go Bills

 

 for a distraction

 

 

 

wondered same , The thinking.

 He might have to play. thats a concern for some of us. me

have a few fun black label shows under my belt

 

honestly, I’d love to hear the reasoning on Hyde/poyer

 

I don’t think Hyde was ever intended to play. I’m assuming same here. On a purely unemotional level - asst coaches and get a younger athlete prepared starting today 

 

I’m assuming it’s some family values angle that they take care of their own so buy into the system fully but even there… is poyer better off floating around on the practice squad or putting a coaching title on his resume? Seems teaching the man to fish by introducing his next career option would be totally appropriate 

[NewEra]

4 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

As always, he’s the last to jump on the pile…

 

Bills need a FO that runs a business, not a charity

He’s running a football team that he prides on being a family.  I’m good with it.  
 

I believe the team will benefit more from having Poyer, Phillips and Dane Jackson  as the 13th-16th players the practice squad than players that they deem lesser than Latu, Logue and Travis clayton and Hardy.  Anyone think any of those 4 guys will have any positive plays for the Bills this season?  Win the Super Bowl.  
 

I don’t see why anyone would complain about bringing Poyer in as the 16th guy on the PS on this team.  It’s mind boggling tbh.  

[BillsFanForever19]

10 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

have a few fun black label shows under my belt

 

honestly, I’d love to hear the reasoning on Hyde/poyer

 

I don’t think Hyde was ever intended to play. I’m assuming same here. On a purely unemotional level - asst coaches and get a younger athlete prepared starting today 

 

I’m assuming it’s some family values angle that they take care of their own so buy into the system fully but even there… is poyer better off floating around on the practice squad or putting a coaching title on his resume? Seems teaching the man to fish by introducing his next career option would be totally appropriate 

 

While I do think ideally they don't have to play Poyer, I do believe that unlike Hyde - Poyer has the potential to play if there's injuries.

 

Unlike Hyde, Poyer is here in the building before Week 1. If this were just a "potentially get him a ring" thing like Hyde - I think they would have waited until later like we did with Hyde.

 

The main reason that Hyde didn't see the field, in my opinion, was his health. He was said to have had multiple recurring stingers in 2023 after returning from his Neck injury. I think he and the NFL as a whole realized his Neck wouldn't allow him to play after that. Poyer doesn't have health issues.

 

Also, last year, we had multiple veteran Safety's on the Practice Squad in Kareem Jackson and Lewis Cine that they could play instead of Hyde. This Practice Squad, however, only has Poyer and Sam Franklin - who is much more of a Special Teams player than he is an NFL Safety.

 

So again, I think ideally the Safety room stays healthy and they get production from the depth chart. But if there are injuries and we need to promote a Safety, unlike Hyde - I believe they wouldn't hesitate to call up Jordan Poyer.

[NewEra]

55 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

birthed in 82 huh

 Old Enough?

 Possibly

But Ye Olde Folkes here

are from well before Blacklabel's fine metal

How about the Beach Boys ?

and early Beatles ? those Grateful Dead even 

 

we got some honest to goodness Ancient relics here to listen/learn from 

Go Bills

 

 for a distraction

 

 

 

wondered same , The thinking.

 He might have to play. thats a concern for some of us. me

I’m concerned about Damar Hamlin and Cole Bishop playing.  We don’t know if Bishop can be a viable starter.  We already know Damar is below average.
 

Those are 2 of our top 3 safeties.  I hate to say it, but there’s a slim possibility that Poyer is better than both of those guys.  Unlikely, but possible (sadly).  
 

If things go south opposite Rapp (or when Rapp gets injured), after Hancock or Lewis, he can probably give McD what he wants out there better than the other options not on a practice squads.  
 

doesn’t seem like we have the money for the guy everyone wants- Justin Simmons.  Or maybe there’s more to his situation that we know.   

[BobbyC81]

If Poyer played his usual in-the-box role, his speed doesn’t matter as much 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

Obviously I’ll believe it when I see it…But It’d be really nice for a few of these core turnaround guys to be here when we win one. Getting White and Poyer a ring would feel incredibly appropriate. It would be great either way but there are 5-10 guys that really deserve the payoff for the franchise altering turnaround 

Edited Thursday at 02:00 AM by Brianmoorman4jesus

[HappyDays]

I continue to be completely unperturbed about the safety position. Hopefully Bishop will rise to the occasion so that 2nd round pick won't have been a total waste. If not and Hamlin or Poyer need to fill in, so be it. They'll both hit their landmarks and we'll just have to scheme around their athletic limitations. It's not fatal. I actually think Poyer might be a better option than Hamlin if push comes to shove.

 

The DL just has to be much better this year. And we need average play from our CB2. And we need the play calling to be better. If all of those things happen no one is going to care about starting one replacement level player at safety.

[Shaw66]

2 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

The same thing happened in the Jordan Phillips topic as happened here.

 

 

In his press conference, they asked Phillips about coming back with Poyer. Reading between the lines, he implied Poyer came back to teach.  He said he will teach, but he came back to play. 

[Sierra Foothills]

2 hours ago, 3rdand12 said:

 

 

BTW, there's a sequel to "This is Spinal Tap" coming out soon... "Spinal Tap II" (the roman numeral 2 appears as Stonehenge stones).

 

[NeverOutNick]

36 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

I continue to be completely unperturbed about the safety position. Hopefully Bishop will rise to the occasion so that 2nd round pick won't have been a total waste. If not and Hamlin or Poyer need to fill in, so be it. They'll both hit their landmarks and we'll just have to scheme around their athletic limitations. It's not fatal. I actually think Poyer might be a better option than Hamlin if push comes to shove.

 

The DL just has to be much better this year. And we need average play from our CB2. And we need the play calling to be better. If all of those things happen no one is going to care about starting one replacement level player at safety.

Agreed on Poyer being the better option in a pinch over Hamlin because he won’t look like a lost puppy out there in coverage but here’s hoping Bishop lives up to his draft status, Rapp doesn’t injure anymore teammates and Hancock surprises all and becomes our future stud, Hyde clone