Jordan Phillips is back

[EmotionallyUnstable]

19 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

. I see nothing about salary voided due to Suspension. And we signed him after he was suspended. 

Spotrac has it on his yearly breakdown. If you scroll all the way to the right, it shows that his dead cap would be 3.5 from his signing bonus which was guaranteed. The other 2 mil of guarentees, which ads up the the 5.5 you keep referencing, was voided from PED suspension. Reading the contract notes below the yearly breakdown explains this.  
 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/21807/larry-ogunjobi 

 

Over the cap has this shown in a different way. If you look at the yearly breakdown chart, and switch the dead and cap savings to post June 1, it shows that it’s 3.5 in dead and 3mil in cap savings. 
 

Maybe someone else like @BarleyNY can chime in on the contract deets. 

[ALLinALLEN]

Just now, That's No Moon said:

Then he doubles down on that and brings Dane Jackson back too.

Yeah and he’s looked horrible. I’m not asking for a game wrecker at the D position at picks 26-32 or whatever we’ve drafted but you should not be dipping into former vets 2 weeks out to fill your defense. 

[Augie]

16 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

It was already reported that he's signing to the 53 man roster.

 

 

 

My Halloween costume was often ruined in a similar way as a child. 

[Maine-iac]

Walker is literally a 21 year old version of 32 year old Jordan Phillips.  Maybe they just want Phillips to give him a jump start to playing as a big man that's not a 1 tech in the NFL.  I'm certainly not going to crap on Phillips because he loves playing here.  It's not his job to decide who's fit to be on the 53 man roster.  He probably has as much to offer as anyone else after Oliver, Sanders, Jones, and Walker.  Maybe they are going to trade Jones?  Who knows.

[Lafromboise]

I don't think phillips ever lost a step. The guy steps up and he did last year 

[BillsFanForever19]

1 minute ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

Spotrac has it on his yearly breakdown. If you scroll all the way to the right, it shows that his dead cap would be 3.5 from his signing bonus which was guaranteed. The other 2 mil of guarentees, which ads up the the 5.5 you keep referencing, was voided from PED suspension. Reading the contract notes below the yearly breakdown explains this.  
 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/21807/larry-ogunjobi 

 

Over the cap has this shown in a different way. If you look at the yearly breakdown chart, and switch the dead and cap savings to post June 1, it shows that it’s 3.5 in dead and 3mil in cap savings. 
 

Maybe someone else like @BarleyNY can chime in on the contract deets. 

 

Okay, I can see it now. I concede on that. Appreciate the further breakdown.

 

All that said though, Ogunjobi being cut or not really has no effect on the initial 53. It has to be a move elsewhere, either a Carter trade or cut or a Jones cut bc they're impressed with Walker.

 

Otherwise, they're carrying 6 DT's opening day regardless of what they do with Ogunjobi and I just can't see that. Especially with the injuries at CB facilitating keeping extra there and the logjam at the bottom of the WR chart.

[Maine-iac]

6 minutes ago, ALLinALLEN said:

It’s just mind bending to me some of the decisions this GM makes that he thinks fixes holes. He brings back Tre White who looked pretty bad with Baltimore (he got torched BY THE BILLS in a playoff game) and looked even worse in LA. You don’t go sign that player with all the question marks to be a CB3 behind a rookie like Maxwell. Because if you do, you basically pencil in Hairston as CB2 and if that goes bad, you’re suddenly onto white - which we’re already at. It’s sorta a head scratcher for me and here we are bringing back a 33 yr old Phillips cuz our DL (mind you we poured draft and FA assets into) isn’t good enough. 

Weird Pro Football Reference says we had a 70 QB rating throwing at White in last years playoff game.  We were 2 for 3 for a whopping 9 yards.  White gave up 200 yards on the season and 150 of it was with the Rams when he shouldn't have been starting because he was coming back from injury.  I don't think White is the old Tre but I think getting our stories straight is a good start to figuring out what he can do now.

[MikePJ76]

I thought this is the kind of thing would happen Monday or Tuesday after week 1.

 

Carter and Ogunjobi must have not passed whatever test they put them through this camp.

 

 

[Mikie2times]

31 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

Still , they have the 2nd best winning % in that time!

Does that mean he's done a top 10 job since then?

Edited Sunday at 10:56 PM by Mikie2times

[buffblue]

I won't be happy until the Bills sign Eli Ankou for 12 minutes

[ALLinALLEN]

2 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:

Weird Pro Football Reference says we had a 70 QB rating throwing at White in last years playoff game.  We were 2 for 3 for a whopping 9 yards.  White gave up 200 yards on the season and 150 of it was with the Rams when he shouldn't have been starting because he was coming back from injury.  I don't think White is the old Tre but I think getting our stories straight is a good start to figuring out what he can do now.

He had a PI that gave us the ball on the 5 yard line for a td before half. He’s slow and old and the injuries would’ve guaranteed we would not have him for a full 17+ games. If you truly think he would have been a shutdown reliable guy for 17+ weeks for this team with a question mark rookie ahead of him that’s your take. I didn’t like it. 

[Augie]

8 minutes ago, Lafromboise said:

I don't think phillips ever lost a step. The guy steps up and he did last year 

 

I never lost a Ferrari, but that’s another issue.

 

They know the guy, they’ve been giving the replacements months to shown they are better, and they made a football decision. For better or worse, and we’ll never really know what might have been. Hindsight is prohibited. 

[buffblue]

1 minute ago, MikePJ76 said:

I thought this is the kind of thing would happen Monday or Tuesday after week 1.

 

Carter and Ogunjobi must have not passed whatever test they put them through this camp.

 

 

Ogunjobi's deception prior to signing meant he was likely on thin ice already. His mediocre preseason performance may have sealed his fate.

[Blank Stare]

I actually thought the dline was one of the areas that looked halfway decent in the preseason. Thought we had tackle depth. Now we’re rolling Phillips old ass in off the couch? Come on. Dude is washed. Poyer and Hyde coming back next? Unless there’s an injury we don’t know about, don’t know how this makes any sense. 

[NeverOutNick]

1 hour ago, gonzo1105 said:

If Phillips is back, I’m fully expecting the Bills to trade Dewayne Carter . Probably won’t get much but the Bills might take their 6th rounder and deal with it 

Maybe they can trade him for Troy Franklin 😀

[Roundybout]

This guy is the pebble in your shoe you can’t quite get rid of 

[Mr. WEO]

Lol

9 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

I thought this is the kind of thing would happen Monday or Tuesday after week 1.

 

Carter and Ogunjobi must have not passed whatever test they put them through this camp.

 

 

Or Fendi Onabun

[TBBills Fan]

I thought it was mucb pre likely I would read about a CB we are bring in, and not Jordan Phillips. 

 

Carter has got to be toast 

[Psautcsk]

2 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

This guy is the pebble in your shoe you can’t quite get rid of 

A sedimental signing. 

[Einstein]

41 minutes ago, Allen2Moulds said:

Flame away, but he was the guy that served as our closer vs. KC. Gave the offense a chance to win the game. Because if his size, people are frustrated that he can't be the answer to our pourus run defense

 

I have never understood the J Phillips hate.