Bills hosting Gabe Davis for visit

[3rdand12]

1 hour ago, boyst said:

Right? It's like people forget other teams are weak, too.

The Chiefs has a suspect OL, 1 very good CB and a mid DB unit otherwise. Aging LBs. Rashee Rice 1 breath away from lifetime ban. Average RBs. Over celebrated QB.

The Ravens have a deck chair QB. Two average TE's. A good improv WR and not much else behind him. Travis Henry at RB is feast of famine on borrowed time. Their D struggled to get rolling until late putting the CB who was up there in years and name escapes me to nickel to turn it around. They lost startkng OL and Cbs. 

 Agree about perspective for sure B

But calling the Ravens pedestrian ?

 Coaching matters btw.

This will be a fine litmus test indeed

 Taking Monday off to stay

up past my bedtime

[3rdand12]

1 hour ago, billsfan89 said:

 

 

I think fans just see the Bills list of injuries and follow it so closely that it makes us nervous. 

It's just natural. So much to worry about ..

 Most of Us older folks are traumatized from the droughts , the SB losses and then the other droughts.

 The cheapness and then the incompetence over decades, and decades.

One thing i have learned though

 

On Any Sunday.

 

Bills are a team that will surprise and disappoint right now.

 But exciting as heck to watch !

 They will bring a Good Game when the season fires up 🤠 Win or lose

We should never doubt that

 Go Bills

[BillsFanForever19]

1 hour ago, boyst said:

Travis Henry at RB is feast of famine on borrowed time.

 

Wow. I had read somewhere he was having trouble paying Child Support, but i'm surprised the Ravens signed him at his age....

[boyst]

4 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

 Agree about perspective for sure B

But calling the Ravens pedestrian ?

 Coaching matters btw.

This will be a fine litmus test indeed

 Taking Monday off to stay

up past my bedtime

Ravens are pedestrian. 

 

The eeked out wins against Dallas and Cincinnati (twice), the Chargers and Commanders should have been able to beat them. 

They lose to a struggling dottering Chiefs team, the browns, ravens, raiders.

They were a good team in 2024. But they were hardly the team they should have been; at least by the hype they got.

Just now, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Wow. I had read somewhere he was having trouble paying Child Support, but i'm surprised the Ravens signed him at his age....

... Derrick. My bad. 

[3rdand12]

1 minute ago, boyst said:

Ravens are pedestrian. 

 

The eeked out wins against Dallas and Cincinnati (twice), the Chargers and Commanders should have been able to beat them. 

They lose to a struggling dottering Chiefs team, the browns, ravens, raiders.

They were a good team in 2024. But they were hardly the team they should have been; at least by the hype they got.

 

Don't all teams do that over the season ?

[RichRiderBills]

Bills have a strategic plan.

 

Davis will likely be available at some point during the season. Bills have injury every year. 

 

They are kicking tires to know if he's a contingency. 

 

People getting irate are silly. Davis was always a solid WR in our system. Hes a sound option to fill in if needed. 

 

We always liked Gabe, but not for big money. He's a culture fit. He's a scheme fit. 

[boyst]

7 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

Don't all teams do that over the season ?

Of course so why are the Ravens vaunted is my point. 

 

A flip of a call here or there and Cinci is in their playoff spot. Or Pittsburgh. 

[Turf Toejam 34]

1 hour ago, RichRiderBills said:

 

 

People getting irate are silly. Davis was always a solid WR in our system. Hes a sound option to fill in if needed. 

 

We sign him and just wait for him to run the wrong route again.    Not a smart player.    

[reddogblitz]

3 hours ago, boyst said:

... Derrick. My bad. 

 

Don't feel bad.  I did exactly the same tonight while eating dinner. Had been trying to remember his name all day and then it popped out, Travis Henry.

 

I just hope he doesn't rip off another 87 yard TD on our "run defense".

Edited Saturday at 03:11 AM by reddogblitz

[Richard Noggin]

7 hours ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said:

Bills were 10-0 at home last year including beating the Ravens and Chiefs. You think they're gonna 'get rolled'? Wow. 

 

Regular season Ravens have put some whoopins on McD's Bills. Just sayin. I don't necessarily think that's what will happen, but I did say the smart money is on that (mostly because the spread/odds will make the returns favorable). 

 

You don't see any potential for the Bills to field an exploitable pass defense while also being a little flat offensively? McD's teams have had mixed results against Henry in the regular season, and Baltimore's defense has jumped all over us. 

 

I know the postseason matchups have gone differently. But getting pushed around or disrupted by an aggressive AFC Central squad is something we've seen a bit over the years, given how few teams generally have gotten the upper hand on McD's Bills. It's not preposterous. 

[BigDingus]

11 hours ago, boyst said:

Ravens are pedestrian. 

 

The eeked out wins against Dallas and Cincinnati (twice), the Chargers and Commanders should have been able to beat them. 

They lose to a struggling dottering Chiefs team, the browns, ravens, raiders.

They were a good team in 2024. But they were hardly the team they should have been; at least by the hype they got.

... Derrick. My bad. 

 

Bills are pedestrian.

 

They eeked out wins against the Cardinals, Dolphins (requiring a 61 yard FG as time expired), the miserable Jets & Patriots, and the Rams actually did beat us.

They lose to a ho-hum, above average Texans team (which is worse than losing to a "dottering" Chiefs team that beat us & made the Super Bowl), Pats, and got absolutely demolished by the same Ravens team you're calling pedestrian.

They were a good team in 2024. But they still lost to the Chiefs for a 4th time in the playoffs. Hardly worthy of all the hype they're once again getting as SB favorites.

 

See how easy it is to spin a whole season into something that sounds worse than it is?

[Bill from NYC]

On 8/19/2025 at 8:58 AM, I'm Spartacus said:

I'd rather see if Dante Whitner would consider coming back.

I'm going to put this up there on my list of all time great posts. Bravo!!!

[boyst]

1 hour ago, BigDingus said:

 

Bills are pedestrian.

 

They eeked out wins against the Cardinals, Dolphins (requiring a 61 yard FG as time expired), the miserable Jets & Patriots, and the Rams actually did beat us.

They lose to a ho-hum, above average Texans team (which is worse than losing to a "dottering" Chiefs team that beat us & made the Super Bowl), Pats, and got absolutely demolished by the same Ravens team you're calling pedestrian.

They were a good team in 2024. But they still lost to the Chiefs for a 4th time in the playoffs. Hardly worthy of all the hype they're once again getting as SB favorites.

 

See how easy it is to spin a whole season into something that sounds worse than it is?

That's my point. No one team is truly a juggernaut in the league right now. 

[uticaclub]

1 hour ago, BigDingus said:

 

Bills are pedestrian.

 

They eeked out wins against the Cardinals, Dolphins (requiring a 61 yard FG as time expired), the miserable Jets & Patriots, and the Rams actually did beat us.

They lose to a ho-hum, above average Texans team (which is worse than losing to a "dottering" Chiefs team that beat us & made the Super Bowl), Pats, and got absolutely demolished by the same Ravens team you're calling pedestrian.

They were a good team in 2024. But they still lost to the Chiefs for a 4th time in the playoffs. Hardly worthy of all the hype they're once again getting as SB favorites.

 

See how easy it is to spin a whole season into something that sounds worse than it is?

We are worth the hype because we have Josh Allen. Year 9 of The Process let’s go!!!!

Edited Saturday at 12:59 PM by uticaclub

[BillsFan130]

33 minutes ago, boyst said:

That's my point. No one team is truly a juggernaut in the league right now. 

Ravens are stackeddd though lol.

 

I am not sure what your definition of pedestrian is, but they easily have a top 5 roster in the NFL. Wouldn't you agree?

[Bob Chandler's Hands]

10 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

Regular season Ravens have put some whoopins on McD's Bills. Just sayin. I don't necessarily think that's what will happen, but I did say the smart money is on that (mostly because the spread/odds will make the returns favorable). 

 

You don't see any potential for the Bills to field an exploitable pass defense while also being a little flat offensively? McD's teams have had mixed results against Henry in the regular season, and Baltimore's defense has jumped all over us. 

 

I know the postseason matchups have gone differently. But getting pushed around or disrupted by an aggressive AFC Central squad is something we've seen a bit over the years, given how few teams generally have gotten the upper hand on McD's Bills. It's not preposterous. 

I think they are two evenly matched teams. A blow out either way seems highly unlikely in Buffalo. Agreed that Henry has been the X-factor in some games against his teams in recent years...except for the games where they shut him down pretty good.  The only thing I can think of that increases the odds of a blow out either way is the increased variability week 1 brings with it being the first real game with changed rosters from last season on both sides. 

17 hours ago, billsfan89 said:

 

It's a new season so past success is not indicative of future results. I think "rolled" is a bit of an exaggeration but I could see a loss. The Ravens are very talented and I think some fans (myself included although I am know I am just getting in my head) are just feeling a little ominous about the camp injuries and the lackluster showing in the pre-season. Now I am willing to toss the pre-season we all know that's just fans getting antsy but the camp injuries just seem like a bad omen to me. 

 

I know the injuries have thus far luckily not been season enders but it just feels like the team is really banged up for some reason. I don't know maybe there's just too much information out there. If Shakir is good to go week 1, Tre's injury just needs a week to heal, Mad Max comes back early in the season, and the team doesn't have much else injury wise that should hurt them out the gate. Yes Samuel being banged up might hurt the WR core a bit but Samuel wasn't much of a factor last season and I am bummed about SVPG maybe missing the year or starting on IR the depth on the interior with Anderson isn't bad.

 

I think fans just see the Bills list of injuries and follow it so closely that it makes us nervous. 

A loss and getting 'rolled' are two different things. I can easily see a loss. Getting handily beaten at home would be a big surprise, at least to me. 

[Scott7975]

17 hours ago, boyst said:

Ravens are pedestrian. 

 

The eeked out wins against Dallas and Cincinnati (twice), the Chargers and Commanders should have been able to beat them. 

They lose to a struggling dottering Chiefs team, the browns, ravens, raiders.

They were a good team in 2024. But they were hardly the team they should have been; at least by the hype they got.

... Derrick. My bad. 

The Ravens lost to the ravens? Thats gotta be some kind of record somewhere.

[boyst]

4 hours ago, BillsFan130 said:

Ravens are stackeddd though lol.

 

I am not sure what your definition of pedestrian is, but they easily have a top 5 roster in the NFL. Wouldn't you agree?

... Stacked how? 

Their defense has a bunch of JAGs in the front 7 with a long in the tooth Roquan Smith. In the backfield they have Jaire Alexander who's not *****. Marlon Humphrey who is underappreciated but not anything more than above average, Kyle Hamilton who is really good but also hyped because he carries the hype from his draft rating.

 

Their defense is seriously overrated, and oddly underrated at the same time. In ,2024 these players gelled tremendously to be an effective and efficient unit.

 

It'll be tough to reproduce that losing their 2nd best CB, and get that same over amped production.

 

On offense I respect their OL but it's a product of Jackson being mobile and defenses countering Henry.  Zay Flowers is very capable but oft injured. Hopkins didn't amount to much. Bateman is a good 3rd WR. Andrews is aging. Likely is a good 2nd TE. But, it all runs through Jackson. He's a deck chair in moments. Make or break. Because the Bills have their number when it matters I don't really factor their offense as that important. 

 

Their team has talent, almost all of it on offense.

20 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

The Ravens lost to the ravens? Thats gotta be some kind of record somewhere.

Raiders.🫣

Edited Saturday at 05:53 PM by boyst

[BillsFan130]

13 minutes ago, boyst said:

... Stacked how? 

Their defense has a bunch of JAGs in the front 7 with a long in the tooth Roquan Smith. In the backfield they have Jaire Alexander who's not *****. Marlon Humphrey who is underappreciated but not anything more than above average, Kyle Hamilton who is really good but also hyped because he carries the hype from his draft rating.

 

Their defense is seriously overrated, and oddly underrated at the same time. In ,2024 these players gelled tremendously to be an effective and efficient unit.

 

It'll be tough to reproduce that losing their 2nd best CB, and get that same over amped production.

 

On offense I respect their OL but it's a product of Jackson being mobile and defenses countering Henry.  Zay Flowers is very capable but oft injured. Hopkins didn't amount to much. Bateman is a good 3rd WR. Andrews is aging. Likely is a good 2nd TE. But, it all runs through Jackson. He's a deck chair in moments. Make or break. Because the Bills have their number when it matters I don't really factor their offense as that important. 

 

Their team has talent, almost all of it on offense.

How are they stacked? Well let's discuss their defence as it seems like you acknowledge they have an elite offence. (If you don't, I can give you any stat that shows they are elite)

 

Madubuike, Van Noy and Travis jones who are animals on the D line.

Roquan Smith might be the best linebacker in football.

 

Their secondary is absolutely ridiculous with Humphrey and Hamilton. Not too mention they just invested a 1st round pick in Starks and took a good gamble on Jaire Alexander.

 

Their defence started slow which makes sense as their defensive coaching staff all left for promotions in the off season . But Look at their defence the back half of the year in 2024 from weeks 11-18. One of the best in football in almost any stat . 1st in EPA per play, 1st in EPA in pass, and the lowest amount of yards given up.

 

They are stacked on all 3 levels and the stats from week 11 onwards last year reflect that . I'm not sure how you think they have no talent on defence 

 

 

 

Edited Saturday at 06:06 PM by BillsFan130

[boyst]

4 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

How are they stacked? Well let's discuss their defence as it seems like you acknowledge they have an elite offence. (If you don't, I can give you any stat that shows they are elite)

 

Madubuike, Van Noy and Travis jones who are animals on the D line.

Roquan Smith might be the best linebacker in football.

 

Their secondary is absolutely ridiculous with Humphrey and Hamilton. Not too mention they just invested a 1st round pick in Starks and took a good gamble on Jaire Alexander.

 

Their defence started slow, but Look at their defence the back half of the year in 2024 from weeks 11-18. One of the best in football in almost any stat . 1st in EPA per play, 1st in EPA in pass, and the lowest amount of yards given up.

 

They are stacked on all 3 levels and the stats from week 11 onwards last year reflect that . I'm not sure how you think they have no talent on defence 

 

 

 

Well *****, let's just forfeit our games because they have all these names we've heard of. I don't think they're stacked, I think they're going to be one of the top five teams in the league. But I guarantee they will choke.