James Cook: "Business" man

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

7 hours ago, Peace Frog said:

Forget everything you know so far about this entire situation.  The bottom line, to me, is that Cook is acting like a little b**** about the whole thing.  The second he posted on social media about it, I lost all respect for him. I hope he gets paid and he's playing for us, but be a grownup about it and not a petulant teenager holding his breath.  Very bad look.

He is likely getting instructions from his agent. Holding out is sh*tty, but it HAS worked in the past. More teams needs to start taking the Steelers/Leveon Bell route and call their bluffs.

[BuffaloBillyG]

1 minute ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

He is likely getting instructions from his agent. Holding out is sh*tty, but it HAS worked in the past. More teams needs to start taking the Steelers/Leveon Bell route and call their bluffs.

His agent works for him. Not the other way around. His agent may advise him...but Cook has free will to listen or tell him "Hey, get the deal done or I'll find someone who will"

 

Agents always get scapegoated as the villain in the process. But Cook is a grown man who can make his own decisions. This is on him..

[Toledo Bill]

What I don't understand is why the Bills don't make him leave camp.

if he refuses to practice and is a negative distraction tell him to leave.

i don't know if there is some collective bargaining/ union issue or what?

[DrDawkinstein]

34 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

His agent works for him. Not the other way around. His agent may advise him...but Cook has free will to listen or tell him "Hey, get the deal done or I'll find someone who will"

 

Agents always get scapegoated as the villain in the process. But Cook is a grown man who can make his own decisions. This is on him..

 

Not really.

 

The agent is hired to handle negotiations and maximize the money the player earns.

 

If a player just wanted to "get the deal done" they could handle that themselves, and likely leave millions on the table.

 

The agent would be advising on how negotiations are going, and if they need the player to do anything to apply pressure/leverage.

 

29 minutes ago, Toledo Bill said:

What I don't understand is why the Bills don't make him leave camp.

if he refuses to practice and is a negative distraction tell him to leave.

i don't know if there is some collective bargaining/ union issue or what?

 

So far, across all the hold-ins not just Cook, there has never been a report that the player is a "negative distraction". 

 

The fans all have way bigger feelings about all this than the other players.

 

Jimbo is there, in meetings, watching film, bonding with the team. Just not practicing.

 

[dave mcbride]

17 hours ago, Goin Breakdown said:

Soon as he said "all world". Cook is good but......

Cook is really good. And with regard to physical talent (speed, change of direction, receiving ability) he's elite-level.

[Goin Breakdown]

36 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Cook is really good. And with regard to physical talent (speed, change of direction, receiving ability) he's elite-level.

I fully agree. Like you said. He's really good and has elite level traits. Just not sure all world is best to describe him. Not a knock on him. 

[Pete]

18 hours ago, SCBills said:

 

AJ, Cook, and Samuel for Micah.  Next man up, Darrynton Evans 

https://www.buffalobills.com/video/can-t-miss-play-darrynton-evans-won-t-go-down-on-35-yard-td-run-bills-at-bears-p

 

[DrDawkinstein]

12 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said:

I fully agree. Like you said. He's really good and has elite level traits. Just not sure all world is best to describe him. Not a knock on him. 

 

Well, who is describing him?

 

Some non-official twitter account talking to their "source" who want to hype it up as much as possible. And even if it came from the Cowboys, of course their going to hype it as well. What else would they say? "We're trading Micah Parsons for a good but 2nd tier back"?

 

Also, for what it's worth, as I watch camp and Cook coverage on ESPN, NFLN, radio shows, etc, they ALL refer to Cook as a "top 5 back" or "elite RB". Whether he is or isnt, and whether we believe them or not, doesnt matter. The point is, it is how he is referred to and talked about across NFL media.

[Toledo Bill]

1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Not really.

 

The agent is hired to handle negotiations and maximize the money the player earns.

 

If a player just wanted to "get the deal done" they could handle that themselves, and likely leave millions on the table.

 

The agent would be advising on how negotiations are going, and if they need the player to do anything to apply pressure/leverage.

 

 

So far, across all the hold-ins not just Cook, there has never been a report that the player is a "negative distraction". 

 

The fans all have way bigger feelings about all this than the other players.

 

Jimbo is there, in meetings, watching film, bonding with the team. Just not practicing.

 

Good point about the fans. I would still think that this can't contribute to a positive atmosphere on the team. I doubt that other players would come out and state that it is a negative distraction (even if it is).

[Doc Brown]

1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

His agent works for him. Not the other way around. His agent may advise him...but Cook has free will to listen or tell him "Hey, get the deal done or I'll find someone who will"

 

Agents always get scapegoated as the villain in the process. But Cook is a grown man who can make his own decisions. This is on him..

If I'm looking at probably my only bite at the big apple that will financially set me up for life I'm doing whatever the agent says.  Assuming you trust the agent.

[DrDawkinstein]

4 minutes ago, Toledo Bill said:

Good point about the fans. I would still think that this can't contribute to a positive atmosphere on the team. I doubt that other players would come out and state that it is a negative distraction (even if it is).

 

They all understand the business. They all are in the same boat and support each other getting as much money as each of them can.

 

It's the players vs the owners in a good union. Not the workers against each other.

[Ya Digg?]

5 minutes ago, Toledo Bill said:

Good point about the fans. I would still think that this can't contribute to a positive atmosphere on the team. I doubt that other players would come out and state that it is a negative distraction (even if it is).

But that's the thing you're not getting - it's not a negative distraction.  Like DrDawkenstein said, he's in the meetings, he is watching film, he's talking with his running backs coach, he's just not practicing.  Just like the fans are always on the owners side, the players are always on the players side.  

[Doc Brown]

1 minute ago, Ya Digg? said:

But that's the thing you're not getting - it's not a negative distraction.  Like DrDawkenstein said, he's in the meetings, he is watching film, he's talking with his running backs coach, he's just not practicing.  Just like the fans are always on the owners side, the players are always on the players side.  

That's a really generalized statement.  I'm always on the player's side for the 31 other teams.

[RochesterLifer]

6 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

If I'm looking at probably my only bite at the big apple that will financially set me up for life I'm doing whatever the agent says.  Assuming you trust the agent.

I agree with your point on this being Cook's one big bite of the apple. However, I don't just do what anyone tells me to do. I own my actions. I consider input, advice, and knowledge. However, when it comes time to take action, that decision and action is mine.

[DrDawkinstein]

13 minutes ago, RochesterLifer said:

I agree with your point on this being Cook's one big bite of the apple. However, I don't just do what anyone tells me to do. I own my actions. I consider input, advice, and knowledge. However, when it comes time to take action, that decision and action is mine.

 

Of course it's ultimately Cooks decision and action. And he has decided to prioritize maximizing his payout. So he is listening to his hired negotiator on how to get there.

[NoSaint]

54 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said:

I fully agree. Like you said. He's really good and has elite level traits. Just not sure all world is best to describe him. Not a knock on him. 

he has some all world talents, and some room to improve. 
 

it puts him among the very very good, but not the generational talents 

[theRalph]

 

[Goin Breakdown]

42 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Well, who is describing him?

 

Some non-official twitter account talking to their "source" who want to hype it up as much as possible. And even if it came from the Cowboys, of course their going to hype it as well. What else would they say? "We're trading Micah Parsons for a good but 2nd tier back"?

 

Also, for what it's worth, as I watch camp and Cook coverage on ESPN, NFLN, radio shows, etc, they ALL refer to Cook as a "top 5 back" or "elite RB". Whether he is or isnt, and whether we believe them or not, doesnt matter. The point is, it is how he is referred to and talked about across NFL media.

For sure. I get it. Dallas isn't going to downplay who they "may trade for". As for who said it...man I don't have socials and go a verify who is legit or not. 3 kids full time job and so on lol. I just read the post here and responded. I don't take anything away from Cook as far as talent. He's a great talent for sure. I just wish there was more time. Last year he played behind an awesome Oline that had 1 dude miss 1 game last year. That line was awesome. Then there is Josh as a threat. I look at how well Davis did in one game and how that may be impacting how the front office is looking at this deal. Add the Rams running back with very similar numbers and his new contract. Joe Marino used the word "resonable" when talking about Cook. That's really the only way I'm trying to look at this. I love Cook as a player. I'd love to see him get paid and be in this team. I'm just a little stuck on everything that may be a factor in his success last year. I mean uNeil last year he really wasn't being talked about as "all world" or elite but he was trending. Idk just my thoughts. Go Bills!

[Ethan in Cleveland]

Josh made international news on the Daily Mail for defending Cook. Uh oh what are all you guys that post that Cook is a distraction going to say now??? They players know he deserves to get paid. Allen's comments are spot on!!!

[DaVinci]

ITSeems the market was set with the Williams contract. Im sure the Bills offered him a similar deal.