Report: Terry McLaurin requests trade

[Alphadawg7]

19 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I didn't say the loss was on the offense. But at the end the defense DID get a critical stop and give the O a chance. 

 

Bills - Chiefs games come down to the wire. Every game but one in the last four seasons has. They are won inside of the final 4 minutes. The Bills are yet to prove that they can seal the deal whichever side of the ball is out there last. So while there is no doubt that the defense has been worse than the offense in our playoff losses I'd also say the last three times the O has had a chance at the end and it only did its bit one out of three (and the coaching, STs and defense didn't hold up their end). So we can't just say "improve the D and problem solved." The O has to get better to in those situations.

I don’t disagree, what ever unit is on the field in crunch time needs to get the job done.  But the point was WR was not any of the reasons we lost the AFCCG.  The receivers were open on the final series, but the execution elsewhere on the offense prevented the extension of the drive.  Tipped balls at LOS, confused by blitz, etc - so this notion others (not you) keep saying that our Achilles heal in our loss was the WR group just isn’t accurate to what happened on the field.  
 

Refs, injuries, the defense, and failed execution by other players who are not WRs were all complicit in that loss.  
 

So it’s not just simply get another WR and poof we win, especially given the WRs all got open on that final series and Allen failed to convert and get them the ball, including the last play that had Shakir wide open off the snap for an easy first down but Allen couldn’t see or go that way because of the misaligned protection when we were fooled by Spags once again.  

[GoBills808]

25 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I didn't say the loss was on the offense. But at the end the defense DID get a critical stop and give the O a chance. 

 

Bills - Chiefs games come down to the wire. Every game but one in the last four seasons has. They are won inside of the final 4 minutes. The Bills are yet to prove that they can seal the deal whichever side of the ball is out there last. So while there is no doubt that the defense has been worse than the offense in our playoff losses I'd also say the last three times the O has had a chance at the end and it only did its bit one out of three (and the coaching, STs and defense didn't hold up their end). So we can't just say "improve the D and problem solved." The O has to get better to in those situations.

And not even the whole offense

Just specifically the guys who need to keep us on schedule and perform in the big moments

 

Reliable, talented pass catchers who won't shrink when the time comes...I don't think that's even remotely controversial 

[Big Blitz]

 

[GunnerBill]

58 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

And not even the whole offense

Just specifically the guys who need to keep us on schedule and perform in the big moments

 

Reliable, talented pass catchers who won't shrink when the time comes...I don't think that's even remotely controversial 

 

Exactly that.

[DapperCam]

3 hours ago, BillsVet said:

 

If the 13 seconds game before the final regulation KC drive didn't tell you Josh Allen is great and and especially with excellent offensive talent then I don't know what will.  And I'd say he's a more well-rounded QB now than back then.  

 

You have to have a game-plan changeup when the fastball ain't working.  Going into games as Buffalo does expecting to be strong defensively paired with a quasi-dink and dunk offense doesn't always work.  Have to be able to out-score the opponent when the defense is struggling.  

 

If the Bills defense is struggling in the playoffs it must be a day that ends in “Y”.

[stuvian]

McLaurin is remarkably consistent and if my math is correct has only missed three games in 5 years during which has averaged over a thousand yards a season. The only reason why he isn't a star is Washington's inept QB play up until Daniels. McLaurin's probably undervalued as a result. 

 

If Beane has money to throw around it should be at Hendrickson. Signing a WR of McLaurin's stature is tantamount to an admission that Keon Coleman is a bust.

[GoBills808]

37 minutes ago, stuvian said:

McLaurin is remarkably consistent and if my math is correct has only missed three games in 5 years during which has averaged over a thousand yards a season. The only reason why he isn't a star is Washington's inept QB play up until Daniels. McLaurin's probably undervalued as a result. 

 

If Beane has money to throw around it should be at Hendrickson. Signing a WR of McLaurin's stature is tantamount to an admission that Keon Coleman is a bust.

Yup

Big Dj moore vibes

[Sierra Foothills]

This is kind of silly... we're having the same endless debate about why we've fallen short of the Super Bowl and to what degree the wide receiver room is responsible.

 

This conversation encompasses dozens of topics and thousands of responses over several years... and no one's opinion is being swayed.

 

10 hours ago, SCBills said:

We had a great Offense last year. Always do.  But that playoff run showed some cracks around JA.   They might be fixed with a Year 3 Kincaid, Year 2 Keon and the addition of Palmer/Moore.. but we could really use that second elite playmaker outside Allen.  On either side of the ball.   It doesn’t matter.  Just one guy who we know gets a bucket when it matters. 

 

Excellent post and a lot of the discussion comes down to the bolded (including hoping for a healthy season from Curtis Samuel).

 

There are those who think the Bills have finally done enough to surround Josh with skill position weapons and there are those who think they haven't.

 

And then there are those who aren't sure.

 

There are those who want to debate it and there are those who are willing to wait it out.

 

It'll be interesting to see who gets to say "I told you so."

 

[BobbyC81]

On 8/1/2025 at 4:46 AM, Kirby Jackson said:

I guess where I differ from some here is that I don’t really care about a guy “growing with Josh for years to come.” Josh probably has 7 or 8 good years left. If you could give him the 1st 1/2 of that window with a bonafide, number 1 WR, I’d do it yesterday. I don’t need a guy that might become good in 2028. The Bills are favorites in all 17 games this year. Do anything, and everything, to win now. Tomorrow isn’t promised. We need to stop thinking about it in the context of the Bills. Now is the time.

It’s hard to believe this will be Josh’s 8th season.  

[nuklz2594]

I would rather get Micah Parsons. He is only 24.

[BobbyC81]

7 minutes ago, nuklz2594 said:

I would rather get Micah Parsons. He is only 24.

He’s actually 26 but I agree with you.  Time to go all in with a difference maker on defense.

[RoscoeParrish]

11 hours ago, stuvian said:

McLaurin is remarkably consistent and if my math is correct has only missed three games in 5 years during which has averaged over a thousand yards a season. The only reason why he isn't a star is Washington's inept QB play up until Daniels. McLaurin's probably undervalued as a result. 

 

If Beane has money to throw around it should be at Hendrickson. Signing a WR of McLaurin's stature is tantamount to an admission that Keon Coleman is a bust.

I completely disagree.

 

when the Eagles got AJ Brown, was it tantamount to an admission Devonta Smith was a bust?

 

This is the modern NFL. Having multiple good pass catchers in a passing league is a good thing, especially when you have a special QB who can maximize them. We aren’t trying to run the wishbone. 
 

going after Terry is more admitting Curtis Samuel was a bust signing, but I think we already know that at this point?

 

Edited 18 hours ago by RoscoeParrish

[nuklz2594]

2 hours ago, BobbyC81 said:

He’s actually 26 but I agree with you.  Time to go all in with a difference maker on defense.

Would be Bruce part 2

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

17 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

I don’t disagree, what ever unit is on the field in crunch time needs to get the job done.  But the point was WR was not any of the reasons we lost the AFCCG.  The receivers were open on the final series, but the execution elsewhere on the offense prevented the extension of the drive.  Tipped balls at LOS, confused by blitz, etc - so this notion others (not you) keep saying that our Achilles heal in our loss was the WR group just isn’t accurate to what happened on the field.  
 

Refs, injuries, the defense, and failed execution by other players who are not WRs were all complicit in that loss.  
 

So it’s not just simply get another WR and poof we win, especially given the WRs all got open on that final series and Allen failed to convert and get them the ball, including the last play that had Shakir wide open off the snap for an easy first down but Allen couldn’t see or go that way because of the misaligned protection when we were fooled by Spags once again.  

I think having a legit go to guy in crunch time is imperative and most of the Super Bowl champs have one, Gronk, Kelce, AJ Brown, Kupp, Demaryius Thomas, Rice, etc. yes we could win without 1 but this is a difficult path. Who is the last team not to have a stud WR/TE to win the SB?

[Augie]

14 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said:

I think having a legit go to guy in crunch time is imperative and most of the Super Bowl champs have one, Gronk, Kelce, AJ Brown, Kupp, Demaryius Thomas, Rice, etc. yes we could win without 1 but this is a difficult path. Who is the last team not to have a stud WR/TE to win the SB?

 

The question is, do we have to add one, or let one develop? How about the names you listed above? How many were “the final piece” added at a premium in terms of acquisition cost and contract, and how many became that guy in time? 

 

I’m not saying don’t add talent, I’m just wondering at what cost?  That’s always the difficult question. 

[Alphadawg7]

7 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said:

I think having a legit go to guy in crunch time is imperative and most of the Super Bowl champs have one, Gronk, Kelce, AJ Brown, Kupp, Demaryius Thomas, Rice, etc. yes we could win without 1 but this is a difficult path. Who is the last team not to have a stud WR/TE to win the SB?

 

I am not against a go to guy in crunch time, but Terry is not in the class of those guys IMHO. These are guys who get open no matter what kind of attention they get and can be open even when not open.  As much as I like Terry, I just can't view him in the same lense you presenting him in right now.  

 

Side note - In terms of "more offense is the key" some things I always come back to are the best offenses in NFL history.  In 2007 the Pats were the #1 offense in NFL history, an undefeated regular season team, and then got shut down by the DL of the Giants and lost to a mediocre QB in the SB.  In 2013, Broncos were the new #1 offense in NFL history and got crushed in the SB by a young game managing QB against a top D and run game in Seattle and scored just 8 points in a blowout loss.  

 

Most of the top 10 offenses in NFL history didn't win or even reach a SB.  All gas has not proven to be a lock for SB success.  That doesn't mean you shouldn't have a go to guy, not saying that at all.  I am more saying that more offense doesn't mask the lack of defense, in fact, it usually doesn't work.  

• Gronk played with the best defensive mind in NFL history and Pats more often than not had a strong defense that got stronger in the postseason thanks to BB.
• Kelce has Chris Jones (and others) and Spags on the other side who have been critical in sealing playoff wins and SB wins.
• AJ Brown won a SB after they totally rebuilt the defense and added an elite RB to their stellar OL, lost and struggled to get back when the D wasn't as strong.
• Kupp had maybe the best DT in history, a potent front 7, and one of the best corners in history anchoring his defense which also won the SB for them on the field.
• Thomas won a SB with the lowest rated QB in the league that year (Manning) and the worst winning QB performance in SB history with the ghost of Manning because of the D and run game.  2 years earlier as the #1 offense in NFL history they got blown out by Seattle who had a mediocre young QB at the time in a 2nd year Wilson still growing as a QB and more a game manager on a run first team.  
• Rice - Not sure if you mean Jerry or Rashee - But Rashee had the same defensive pieces Kelce has had and Jerry had an excellent defense with multiple HOF'ers on it and some considered to be the GOAT at their respecitve positions on both sides of the ball, including Rice himself.  

So not discrediting what you are saying, but all of these players had elite talent and/or strong defenses on the other side of the ball when they all won SB's.  And when they did NOT have the complimentary defense, they mostly lost or didn't reach Super Bowls.  So I think this conclusion they were a critical catalyst lacks context of the rosters they played on.  

[aristocrat]

There’s always been rumblings of dj Moore on the block in Chicago. He’s a guy I’d look at. But we’d have to trade Samuel epenesa and Daquon to free up the cap space. They wouldn’t get you him so they’d be separate deals to other teams I’d imagine. Lot of moves to make in August so unlikely 

[Alphadawg7]

3 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

There’s always been rumblings of dj Moore on the block in Chicago. He’s a guy I’d look at. But we’d have to trade Samuel epenesa and Daquon to free up the cap space. They wouldn’t get you him so they’d be separate deals to other teams I’d imagine. Lot of moves to make in August so unlikely 

 

DJ Moore is a guy I would be more inclined to go get.  He is a guy that can be a top 10 WR in a better situation IMHO, maybe top 5 if he got to play with an elite QB.  He has top end traits, and produced despite the lack of quality QB play his whole career.  As I have stated before, I do like Terry, and not against getting him on the Bills.  But he isn't a guy that is on the level on which he reportedly wants to be paid, and I don't think the net gain of what we would have to lose to make it work is enough to make the move realistic.  

 

Moore is a guy I would consider more than Terry though.  

[Sojourner]

2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

I am not against a go to guy in crunch time, but Terry is not in the class of those guys IMHO. These are guys who get open no matter what kind of attention they get and can be open even when not open.  As much as I like Terry, I just can't view him in the same lense you presenting him in right now.  

 

Side note - In terms of "more offense is the key" some things I always come back to are the best offenses in NFL history.  In 2007 the Pats were the #1 offense in NFL history, an undefeated regular season team, and then got shut down by the DL of the Giants and lost to a mediocre QB in the SB.  In 2013, Broncos were the new #1 offense in NFL history and got crushed in the SB by a young game managing QB against a top D and run game in Seattle and scored just 8 points in a blowout loss.  

 

Most of the top 10 offenses in NFL history didn't win or even reach a SB.  All gas has not proven to be a lock for SB success.  That doesn't mean you shouldn't have a go to guy, not saying that at all.  I am more saying that more offense doesn't mask the lack of defense, in fact, it usually doesn't work.  

• Gronk played with the best defensive mind in NFL history and Pats more often than not had a strong defense that got stronger in the postseason thanks to BB.
• Kelce has Chris Jones (and others) and Spags on the other side who have been critical in sealing playoff wins and SB wins.
• AJ Brown won a SB after they totally rebuilt the defense and added an elite RB to their stellar OL, lost and struggled to get back when the D wasn't as strong.
• Kupp had maybe the best DT in history, a potent front 7, and one of the best corners in history anchoring his defense which also won the SB for them on the field.
• Thomas won a SB with the lowest rated QB in the league that year (Manning) and the worst winning QB performance in SB history with the ghost of Manning because of the D and run game.  2 years earlier as the #1 offense in NFL history they got blown out by Seattle who had a mediocre young QB at the time in a 2nd year Wilson still growing as a QB and more a game manager on a run first team.  
• Rice - Not sure if you mean Jerry or Rashee - But Rashee had the same defensive pieces Kelce has had and Jerry had an excellent defense with multiple HOF'ers on it and some considered to be the GOAT at their respecitve positions on both sides of the ball, including Rice himself.  

So not discrediting what you are saying, but all of these players had elite talent and/or strong defenses on the other side of the ball when they all won SB's.  And when they did NOT have the complimentary defense, they mostly lost or didn't reach Super Bowls.  So I think this conclusion they were a critical catalyst lacks context of the rosters they played on.  

Great post but I have to disagree with one part and that’s Terry not being a go to guy and getting it done in crunch time. 
 

Dude has produced 5 consecutive seasons of 1k yards whilst being the only guy on that team who is a reliable WR. His TDs skyrocketed once they had a QB who could attack every portion of the field this last season. On top of that, for being the only high end WR there he had a killer post season. Tough to do much against Philly with little to no help opposite. 
Rams were the only team in the playoffs that actually moved the ball effectively against them and that’s more down to the gunslinger they have in Stafford and a quality duo of Puca/Kupp.

 

Hes not an elite #1 but he’d dominate even more if there was a guy to help out at his position. 
 

 

[Alphadawg7]

3 minutes ago, Sojourner said:

Great post but I have to disagree with one part and that’s Terry not being a go to guy and getting it done in crunch time. 
 

Dude has produced 5 consecutive seasons of 1k yards whilst being the only guy on that team who is a reliable WR. His TDs skyrocketed once they had a QB who could attack every portion of the field this last season. On top of that, for being the only high end WR there he had a killer post season. Tough to do much against Philly with little to no help opposite. 
Rams were the only team in the playoffs that actually moved the ball effectively against them and that’s more down to the gunslinger they have in Stafford and a quality duo of Puca/Kupp.

 

Hes not an elite #1 but he’d dominate even more if there was a guy to help out at his position. 
 

 

 

For perspective - Stevie Johnson has 3 consecutive seasons of 1000 yards and he wasn't very good.  When there isnt much to work with, you can still stack production.  Now Terry is definitely better than Stevie, but I don't think he is that uncoverable guy either.  

 

Dont get me wrong though, I really like Terry, was a fan of him coming out and wanted us to draft him too.  But I just don't think he is the league of the guys he listed, some of which were some of the best in their era or ever at their respective positions.