bearstobills Posted July 27 Posted July 27 (edited) I'm going with Ed Oliver. I love watching his press conferences these days. What a difference from his early years! He's honest, self-aware, thoughtful, and composed. Anybody else come to mind both currently or in the past? Edited July 27 by bearstobills 4 1 1 Quote
Richard Noggin Posted July 27 Posted July 27 1 minute ago, bearstobills said: I'm going with Ed Oliver. I love watching his press conferences these days. What a difference from his early years! He's honest, self-aware, thoughtful, and composed. Anybody else come to mind both currently or in the past? Can you say more on Ed? What specific examples are you drawing from? Super interesting take on a guy who's been a bit of an enigma to date. His game against the Lions (and their physical, top-rated o-line) last season was complete and ELITE. That Aaron Donald-Lyte type of disruption and aggression that the optimists hoped for when he was drafted. In context, over the final 7 games last year, beginning with the Rams wk 14 and ending with the Chiefs in the AFCCG, Oliver recorded 10 QB hits, 19 tackles, 4 TFLs, 2 sacks, 2 forced fumbles, and 1 fumble recovery (while playing ~70% of snaps over that span). He played well when it mattered overall, despite being completely invisible for at least 2 of those final 7 games (DEN and NE). Inconsistency his biggest issue? 1 Quote
bearstobills Posted July 27 Author Posted July 27 17 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said: Can you say more on Ed? What specific examples are you drawing from? Super interesting take on a guy who's been a bit of an enigma to date. His game against the Lions (and their physical, top-rated o-line) last season was complete and ELITE. That Aaron Donald-Lyte type of disruption and aggression that the optimists hoped for when he was drafted. In context, over the final 7 games last year, beginning with the Rams wk 14 and ending with the Chiefs in the AFCCG, Oliver recorded 10 QB hits, 19 tackles, 4 TFLs, 2 sacks, 2 forced fumbles, and 1 fumble recovery (while playing ~70% of snaps over that span). He played well when it mattered overall, despite being completely invisible for at least 2 of those final 7 games (DEN and NE). Inconsistency his biggest issue? Ahhh....I need to reword my post. I was talking strictly from a personality stand-point. On field, I completely agree, he's been a mixed bag. 1 Quote
Richard Noggin Posted July 27 Posted July 27 10 minutes ago, bearstobills said: Ahhh....I need to reword my post. I was talking strictly from a personality stand-point. On field, I completely agree, he's been a mixed bag. Awesome! What are you referencing when you identify his matured personality? I want to watch/listen/read. Quote
bearstobills Posted July 27 Author Posted July 27 20 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said: Awesome! What are you referencing when you identify his matured personality? I want to watch/listen/read. When he came into the league he was guarded, uncomfortable in front of the camera, had difficulty expressing himself, and seemed generally tense. Watching him now, https://www.buffalobills.com/video/ed-oliver-the-rookies-keep-me-young is like watching a completely different guy. He's aware that he's changed and speaks to it several times. From a human interest stand-point, I find his maturation fascinating. 2 Quote
GunnerBill Posted July 27 Posted July 27 1 hour ago, Richard Noggin said: Can you say more on Ed? What specific examples are you drawing from? Super interesting take on a guy who's been a bit of an enigma to date. His game against the Lions (and their physical, top-rated o-line) last season was complete and ELITE. That Aaron Donald-Lyte type of disruption and aggression that the optimists hoped for when he was drafted. In context, over the final 7 games last year, beginning with the Rams wk 14 and ending with the Chiefs in the AFCCG, Oliver recorded 10 QB hits, 19 tackles, 4 TFLs, 2 sacks, 2 forced fumbles, and 1 fumble recovery (while playing ~70% of snaps over that span). He played well when it mattered overall, despite being completely invisible for at least 2 of those final 7 games (DEN and NE). Inconsistency his biggest issue? He was excellent in that New England game even if he didn't trouble the stat sheet. He terrorised their interior. His pass rush win rate that day despite being double teamed all day woulda been sky high. He was quiet vs the Broncos... and more generally I think you can ask about consistency... especially because his first half of the season was really below par. 1 Quote
Sojourner Posted July 27 Posted July 27 Marshawn Lynch. Might not have been entirely here his growing up but the man he is off the field during the later years and today is certainly worth commending and applauding. Bonus, Buffalo staff member: Aaron Kromer. First stint here I remember some absolute madness he got himself into with a young boy. SMH. 2 Quote
dcinmuncie Posted July 27 Posted July 27 For me, there’s no better example of growing up than Aaron Williams he was a spoiled, lazy punk at first. Fred Jackson took him under his wing and turned him around. 5 Quote
Pete Posted July 27 Posted July 27 Oliver when he got drafted was asked if he could handle Buffalo cold. "Dont Y'all Have Jackets"? lol Quote
Virgil Posted July 27 Posted July 27 Eric Moulds. His maturity was actually a red flag when he was drafted, but then the vets hazed him a bit coming in. They all ordered pizzas to meetings or something, as a way to call him out for something similar he did in college. Kelly was in on it. 1 1 Quote
boater Posted July 27 Posted July 27 5 hours ago, Gunsgoodtime said: OJ Simpson Textbook case of CTE. But we'll never know for sure--his family disallowed study of his brain. He was a normal person. Actually above normal: he had success in Hollywood and in broadcasting. But as time wore on, he turned into a immoral raging impulsive lunatic. Quote
HOUSE Posted July 27 Posted July 27 Trumaine Edmunds, he was only 15 when the Bills drafted him, seems more like 19 now with the Bears. 1 11 2 1 Quote
WotAGuy Posted July 27 Posted July 27 4 hours ago, Sojourner said: Aaron Kromer. First stint here I remember some absolute madness he got himself into with a young boy. SMH. Ummm…you might want to rephrase this. 2 5 1 Quote
Steve O Posted July 27 Posted July 27 1 hour ago, oldmanfan said: Bruce I guess 1997 and 2009 drunk driving convictions can be considered more mature than a 1988 cocaine suspension. 1 1 1 Quote
chris heff Posted July 27 Posted July 27 41 minutes ago, BontitaBills said: Kelly I was just going to write that, remember when he would do a press conference and refer to himself in the third person. 1 1 Quote
Buffalo Boy Posted July 27 Posted July 27 (edited) Bruce Smith For those of us old enough to remember, he came in a fat, lazy entitled meatball lookin’ mo fo😜 I could be remembering wrong but he played next to Freddy Smerlas and I’m sure Freddy was on him like stink on a pig. Bruce evolved into one of THE paragons of working out and physical preparation. He and Reggie White(😂😂😂) were 1 and 1 a of ends you didn’t want to see staring at you as a QB Edited July 27 by Buffalo Boy Quote
Ralonzo Posted July 27 Posted July 27 21 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: Bruce Smith He and Reggie Smith were 1 and 1 a of ends you didn’t want to see staring at you as a QB In Reggie Smith's case it's because he had a bat 2 3 1 Quote
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