Max Hairston injury

[RobbRiddick]

I fully expected them to start him on IR. Makes sense really to help them juggle the roster around and give themselves extra space for other guys short term. 

 

Unfortunately he can't practice on the field with the guys until he's designated to return (as I understand it) so it'll be a long while before we see him play in a game. But looking at the glass half full, maybe that's not so bad. If he can be pushing for a starting job later in the season and there isn't a tonne of film on him he might hit his stride come playoff time.

 

I'm still dreaming of him picking off Mahomes as the Chiefs drive for the winning score at the end of a playoff game.

[MikePJ76]

It's a major bummer not having your first round draft pick playing and making an impact to help your team win.  

 

Just feels like a bad pick all around at this point.  

[Augie]

1 hour ago, MikePJ76 said:

It's a major bummer not having your first round draft pick playing and making an impact to help your team win.  

 

Just feels like a bad pick all around at this point.  

 

Why do you say this? He has yet to play a game as a Bill. Injuries happen, and I’m just glad this one wasn’t more severe. His missed time in college was mostly due to an infection, I believe, and not any fault of his. I wish he was getting reps now, but it seems far too early for me to judge. 

 

 

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Edited Tuesday at 04:51 PM by Augie

[MikePJ76]

Just now, Augie said:

 

Why do you say this? He has yet to play a game as a Bill. Injuries happen, and I’m just glad this one wasn’t more severe. His missed time in college was mostly due to an infection, I believe, and not any fault of his. I wish he as getting reps now, but it seems far too early for me to judge. 

I say it because he has had a very sketchy start here imo.  

 

No matter what you think of his off the field issue, it is real and an issue.   He is hurt and will not be on the field to start the season, he was drafted to be the starter and have white guiding him through the season.  Now white who is always hurt is penciled in as the starter.  

 

its a bad situation.  If he comes back like week 7 and plays lights out then none of it will have mattered I guess if the team is playing well.  If he basically ends up red shirted because of this its a major blow to a team that has serious issues in its defense and used its most valuable resource on him.  

 

This will be back to back years they took a player they hoped would step right in and start in the secondary who end up hurt and miss camp and will not be what they expected during the year.  Those are big blows to a team.  Its unfortunate but its reality.  this is a major issue for a team trying desperately to find a way to get over the hump.

 

its a long season, hopefully he will be back at some point and help the team.

[Pondslider]

Why doesn’t Beane simply draft players who can’t get hurt? Is he stupid?

[Augie]

8 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

I say it because he has had a very sketchy start here imo.  

 

No matter what you think of his off the field issue, it is real and an issue.   He is hurt and will not be on the field to start the season, he was drafted to be the starter and have white guiding him through the season.  Now white who is always hurt is penciled in as the starter.  

 

its a bad situation.  If he comes back like week 7 and plays lights out then none of it will have mattered I guess if the team is playing well.  If he basically ends up red shirted because of this its a major blow to a team that has serious issues in its defense and used its most valuable resource on him.  

 

This will be back to back years they took a player they hoped would step right in and start in the secondary who end up hurt and miss camp and will not be what they expected during the year.  Those are big blows to a team.  Its unfortunate but its reality.  this is a major issue for a team trying desperately to find a way to get over the hump.

 

its a long season, hopefully he will be back at some point and help the team.

 

They knew about the off field stuff and felt comfortable after thoroughly investigating. Bishop getting hurt last year has nothing to do with the selection of Hairston this year. It’s just an unfortunate coincidence. The early camp reviews were not glowing, but it was early, and it can take some time to adjust. 

 

I don’t know enough to declare this a good or bad pick at this point. He could wear a HOF jacket one day, or he may be the second coming of Elam. I think it’s best to wait and see, and take the long view. 

 

 

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Edited Tuesday at 03:24 PM by Augie

[Rad Likes The Bills]

Will Johnson looks great…. So does Trey Amos. Ofc the Bills pick the smallest thinnest guy out of all the corners. And ofc he gets hurt in preseason. Who would’ve saw this coming?

 

defense isn’t like offense. Worthy can get schemed into touches and space. You can minimize the damage on a slight frame at WR if you’re creative enough. On defense you can’t hide…

[PrimeTime101]

35 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

It's a major bummer not having your first round draft pick playing and making an impact to help your team win.  

 

Just feels like a bad pick all around at this point.  

bad pick? hes not played 1 NFL game and hes a bad pick?

 

thats some crystal ball work you have going on their bud.

[Bob Chandler's Hands]

1 minute ago, Rad Likes The Bills said:

Will Johnson looks great…. So does Trey Amos. Ofc the Bills pick the smallest thinnest guy out of all the corners. And ofc he gets hurt in preseason. Who would’ve saw this coming?

 

defense isn’t like offense. Worthy can get schemed into touches and space. You can minimize the damage on a slight frame at WR if you’re creative enough. On defense you can’t hide…

Darrell Green, Deion Sanders from the past and Tariq Woolen and Nate Wiggins from the present might disagree. 

[billsfan89]

1 minute ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said:

Darrell Green, Deion Sanders from the past and Tariq Woolen and Nate Wiggins from the present might disagree. 

 

Also guys grow into their frames a bit. Hell Tre White was an All-Pro here and he isn't the biggest by CB standards. 

[Augie]

14 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

bad pick? hes not played 1 NFL game and hes a bad pick?

 

thats some crystal ball work you have going on their bud.

 

I think this is what Eyore sees thru his mud colored glasses. 

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

Even if he comes back after 4 weeks, he missed all of TC.

 

So he'll have to go through his TC to learn the McDermott system. 

 

He may be pushing for the starting job by week 8 or 9.

 

Bills may have to call Rasul Douglas 

[Big Turk]

1 minute ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

Even if he comes back after 4 weeks, he missed all of TC.

 

So he'll have to go through his TC to learn the McDermott system. 

 

He may be pushing for the starting job by week 8 or 9.

 

Bills may have to call Rasul Douglas 

 

No thanks. He was pretty close to a bum last year for them.

[SoonerBillsFan]

If he starts on IR we need another vet to come in for depth.

[Rad Likes The Bills]

33 minutes ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said:

Darrell Green, Deion Sanders from the past and Tariq Woolen and Nate Wiggins from the present might disagree. 

Tariq Woolen is 6’4 210

Nate Wiggins is 6’1 183 (more frame to grow into)

Deion is 6’1 190

 

Darrell green is the only similar comp and that was 25 years ago. Max has a ways to go to put weight on that frame. 

I’m not saying he is a bust. But for a team that needed corner help badly, there were safer more immediate contributors available. 
 

max may very well be an all pro… but the bills have NOT done a good job getting early returns from their 1st round picks. That is the honest truth. And that’s the biggest problem holding this team back. Not enough high end, elite young talent. 

[NewEra]

54 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

They knew about the off field stuff and felt comfortable after thoroughly investigating. Bishop getting hurt last year has nothing to do with the selection of Hairston this year. It’s just an unfortunate coincidence. The early camp reviews were not glowing, but it was early, and it can take some time to adjust. 

 

I don’t know enough to declare this a good or bad pick at this point. He could wear a HOF jacket one day, or he may be the second coming of Elam. I think it’s best to wait and see, and take the long view. 

 

 

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But maybe you’ll feel better if you complain about it and claim Hairston was a bad pick

[EmotionallyUnstable]

29 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

If he starts on IR we need another vet to come in for depth.

Meh Beane prepared for this imo

 

Benford, White, Jackson, Ingram, Strong are all boundary guys. You aren’t bringing a guy in to play CB2 at this point, so any of vet would likely just be a PS addition after cut downs imo 

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

If White is injured, the secondary is very thin.

 

Dane Jackson would be the next man up.

 

Thats why I like bringing Douglas back.

[dcinmuncie]

3 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

If White is injured, the secondary is very thin.

 

Dane Jackson would be the next man up.

 

Thats why I like bringing Douglas back.

Although I do not know your age, weight or anything about you 

I would rather bring you as a corner than Douglas 🤣😂

[The Jokeman]

3 hours ago, Pondslider said:

Why doesn’t Beane simply draft players who can’t get hurt? Is he stupid?

Cuz everyone knows injuries are projectable.