Max Hairston injury

[Don Otreply]

7 hours ago, JP51 said:

Well thats a heck of alot better than it could have been... thanks for the heads up...

That’s a big nuthin, Now what are we gonna worry about? 

[Doc Brown]

11 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I wouldn't. He is toast that is burnt on both sides.

I'll eat toast on both sides if I'm hungry enough.  Mold on both sides though.........I'm good.  Lol.  My only argument for Douglas is if all three are washed is he's at least the tallest with the most wingspan of the three.  Arguably the best tackler of the three too.  I think he goes back to the Packers though if I had to make a prediction.  City loves him there like we do Tre here.

[Doc Brown]

6 hours ago, CEN-CAL17 said:

I’ve said it for years….. these rookies train hard prior to their last year of college football. Play an entire season which can be 12-14+ games. After season the immediately do senior bowl or bowl games, train harder for the combine. Training further for pro days. Then get drafted right into rookie mini camp then OTAs.

 

I have always thought the draft should be first week of April vs last. Let them get drafted and have a solid month off prior to rookie mini camp. 
 

Just feel like for some of the higher ranked college athletes they go non stop for 16-18 months, no time off. At least the veterans in the NFL get 3-4 weeks off away from the field, light work outs, vacation etc

 

Im saying the wear and tear of rookies due to non stop pushing adds up

I agree but I don't think the NFL will ever do it because they love the build up to the draft to keep the NFL on people's minds for as long as the calendar year as possible.  If they swapped the draft with free agency that would be one way to accomplish that.  However, then free agent veterans might not get the contracts given that most teams try to fill all their holes in the draft.

[BigAl2526]

6 hours ago, HardyBoy said:

A hamstring pull isn't ideal though...the fact it sounds like he's walking ok is good, maybe it really was a tiny pull that doesn't make future ones more likely

It's a matter of degree.  A bad pull/tear can take months to recover from fully.  From what Beane said, it sounds as if it is a pretty mild tweak.  I don't think it is anything to worry about.

[Beck Water]

20 hours ago, Buffalo Junction said:

Forgot that he injured his back. Honestly, back injuries were pretty quick recoveries for me when I was his age…. Now though…. Just give me the old yeller treatment and put me out of my misery. Though to be fair, at this point of my life I have to wrap up my joints like Kareem in 88’ just to mow the lawn. 

 

OK...but were you slamming your body full force into other large athletic men for hours every week and also having them slam into you and land on you and likely try to wrench you around and aggravate it?  'Cuz I don't think that helps.  

 

And also, there are back injuries and back injuries and none of us know which this was.

 

18 hours ago, Jauronimo said:

Its remarkable how much of an effect that December injury had on his performance in weeks 1 through 15.

 

I could be nuts, but I didn't think his play was that far off the first half of the season, except when he had Baylon Spector and Dorian Williams at LB

It's pretty common for older guys that the dings and dents of the season add up and by midseason they're pretty weighed down (my opinion what happened to Diggs his last two seasons in B'lo).  Then add something serious enough to keep a player out of a couple games and ...toast.

Edited 23 hours ago by Beck Water

[JP51]

11 hours ago, Don Otreply said:

That’s a big nuthin, Now what are we gonna worry about? 

Oh dont underestimate our ability to worry lol we gonna find something  LOL I will throw 4 out there... 

1. Keon got jacked in the offseason looks great.. is this gonna make him even slower? LOL

2. Dalton Kincaid is too skinny but may be faster are he and Keon gonna switch positions... 

3. Now that Josh is married is he gonna be distracted? 

4. Will Joey Bosa sprain his tounge eating chicken wings due to inexperience? And will he use Ranch dressing LOL.... 

 

Hows that? 🤣

 

 

[HardyBoy]

8 hours ago, BigAl2526 said:

It's a matter of degree.  A bad pull/tear can take months to recover from fully.  From what Beane said, it sounds as if it is a pretty mild tweak.  I don't think it is anything to worry about.

 

It's not about the healing time, it's about how after the first one they can start happening again over and over.

[Slippery Rubber Mats]

1 minute ago, HardyBoy said:

 

It's not about the healing time, it's about how after the first one they can start happening again over and over.

 

Except it is about healing time. If he can let it heal fully, it is far less likely to happen "over and over"

[DapperCam]

51 minutes ago, JP51 said:

Oh dont underestimate our ability to worry lol we gonna find something  LOL I will throw 4 out there... 

1. Keon got jacked in the offseason looks great.. is this gonna make him even slower? LOL

2. Dalton Kincaid is too skinny but may be faster are he and Keon gonna switch positions... 

3. Now that Josh is married is he gonna be distracted? 

4. Will Joey Bosa sprain his tounge eating chicken wings due to inexperience? And will he use Ranch dressing LOL.... 

 

Hows that? 🤣

 

 

Kincaid at boundary WR and Keon playing the slot...now that's interesting...

[JP51]

11 minutes ago, DapperCam said:

Kincaid at boundary WR and Keon playing the slot...now that's interesting...

So, I was kidding lol... like really kidding... but... hey whatever brings in the hardware is good for me LOL.... 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

1 hour ago, DapperCam said:

Kincaid at boundary WR and Keon playing the slot...now that's interesting...

Keon at RB.  He'll be able to scoot through holes that develop well after  the snap.  Every carry is a draw play.  Every true draw play catches the opposition thinking the whistle had already been blown. 🤔😁

[HardyBoy]

2 hours ago, Slippery Rubber Mats said:

 

Except it is about healing time. If he can let it heal fully, it is far less likely to happen "over and over"

 

Except a hamstring can never truly fully heal...my understanding is no muscle can after there is any form of tearing, which is what a pull or a "tweak" is, albeit small.

 

Kinda like when you get a cut and your skin doesn't grow back exactly the same (you get a scar)...obviously a very small tweak is better than a huge tear, but my understanding is the nature of the hamstring muscle makes it much easier to happen again once there is scar tissue...I'd be really happy to learn this isn't the case with very small hamstring pulls.

 

I'm not saying it's gonna be a big issue, but it's like people hearing someone had a minor meniscus injury that just needed a "clean up" and being like, phew, that's good news that it's not an acl...when over the long term an acl might be less impactful.

[Slippery Rubber Mats]

2 hours ago, HardyBoy said:

 

Except a hamstring can never truly fully heal...my understanding is no muscle can after there is any form of tearing, which is what a pull or a "tweak" is, albeit small.

 

Kinda like when you get a cut and your skin doesn't grow back exactly the same (you get a scar)...obviously a very small tweak is better than a huge tear, but my understanding is the nature of the hamstring muscle makes it much easier to happen again once there is scar tissue...I'd be really happy to learn this isn't the case with very small hamstring pulls.

 

I'm not saying it's gonna be a big issue, but it's like people hearing someone had a minor meniscus injury that just needed a "clean up" and being like, phew, that's good news that it's not an acl...when over the long term an acl might be less impactful.

 

Where is the thigh doctor when we need him

[RochesterLifer]

5 hours ago, HardyBoy said:

 

It's not about the healing time, it's about how after the first one they can start happening again over and over.

Yes, because as NFL history shows, once a player pulls a hammy, their career is finished. 😏

[oldmanfan]

28 minutes ago, Slippery Rubber Mats said:

 

Where is the thigh doctor when we need him

Not a thigh doctor but an Anatomy doctorate.  Muscles can recover from tears or pulls.  In fact, when you lift weights to put on muscle mass what happens is you get mini-tears in the muscle, which then get repaired by the muscle laying down more intercellular fibers (actin and myosin), i.e. the muscle undergoes hypertrophy.  Fun fact, muscle cells don’t replicate.

Edited 16 hours ago by oldmanfan

[Slippery Rubber Mats]

26 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Not a thigh doctor but an Anatomy doctorate.  Muscles can recover from tears or pulls.  In fact, when you lift weights to put on muscle mass what happens is you get mini-tears in the muscle, which then get repaired by the muscle laying down more intercellular fibers (actin and myosin), i.e. the muscle undergoes hypertrophy.  Fun fact, muscle cells don’t replicate.

 

Nice, thanks. Can I give you a bit of advice? I would go back to school and see what it takes to get your Doctorate in Thighs. That dude's rolling in women and power.

[HardyBoy]

31 minutes ago, RochesterLifer said:

Yes, because as NFL history shows, once a player pulls a hammy, their career is finished. 😏

 

Haha, to be fair I never said that, nor did I say the sky was falling. All I'm saying is people cheering that it's "only" a hamstring...a hamstring injury might be something that needs to be accounted for the rest of one's career

 

I think it's the overall general idea where people might be cheering for something initially, but then in the long run it ends up being worse than the thing they were initially cheering against...like that as a general concept is kinda tickling my brain a bit...like from a Shakespearian/Greek tragedy/film noir perspective

[WotAGuy]

28 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

  Fun fact, muscle cells don’t replicate.

Maybe back in the olden days, but nowadays with modern pharmaceuticals…..you’d be surprised. These guys juicing probably have 4 testicles. 

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[ColoradoBills]

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I learn so much from this board every day !!

 

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