Network pricing to watch all NFL games in 2025

[WotAGuy]

11 hours ago, US Egg said:

I do.
 

But, I’m getting rid of it when I’m done rewatching the hundreds of wrestling shows from the ‘70’s, ‘80’s and ‘90’s they have a few more times.

Tony Parisi? Bo Bo Brazil?  Waldo Von Erich?

Dominick Denucci??  Those 70s videos?  

[US Egg]

35 minutes ago, WotAGuy said:

Tony Parisi? Bo Bo Brazil?  Waldo Von Erich?

Dominick Denucci??  Those 70s videos?  

Yes. There’s ‘70’s Madison Sq. Garden shows starting from ‘73, late ‘70’s WWF studio shows, there’s over a 100 shows from the ‘70’s. Name a star wrestler from the ‘70’s, he was on there. There’s territories shows starting from 1980 onward: WCW, NWA, AWA, Southwest, Mid Atlantic, Smoky Mountain. Every single WWE show that was on USA network. NBC Saturday Night shows. All the NWO, ECW in their own categories. WWE house shows from ‘the 80’s. All PPV’s, Wrestlemania’s, Royal Rumbles, and so much more…..way more.

[first_and_ten]

On 6/5/2025 at 9:29 AM, Einstein said:

 

I will never understand people advocating illegal streams. 

 

For some reason, it being media makes it pallatable for people to say things like like this. But most of us would never say “oh that restaurant meal was expensive - but there are ways to skip out the door before paying without the waitress knowing”. 

 

Why not just straight up say “i’m a thief”?

 

Remember Napster? The music industry were ripping people off with the price of music. The price of albums were ridiculous. Look at it now because people used Napster and subsequent streaming services. The NFL is trying to rip us off as well. Look at the money they get from the networks. It's insane. How much is enough for these greedy owners? I personally don't look for roundabouts, but calling these people thieves is a bit much, IMHO.

[Big Turk]

I just stream anything I want to watch online. Great feeds, watch 3-4 extra games on Sunday that way while having the main 1pm and 4pm games on.

[Johnny Bravo]

48 minutes ago, first_and_ten said:

 

Remember Napster? The music industry were ripping people off with the price of music. The price of albums were ridiculous. Look at it now because people used Napster and subsequent streaming services. The NFL is trying to rip us off as well. Look at the money they get from the networks. It's insane. How much is enough for these greedy owners? I personally don't look for roundabouts, but calling these people thieves is a bit much, IMHO.

How are they ripping you off?  The NFL offers a product that comes for a price they are charging.  If you think the product is worth the price you buy it.  If you don’t, then you don’t.

 

We all love the Bills here.  For me, frankly, the idea of not being a Bills fan anymore is analogous to not being a brother to my brother.  It’s unthinkable.  But that love of the Bills and decades of devotion doesn’t give me any right to someone else’s product that I haven’t paid for.

 

i live in Virginia where I don’t get every Bills game for free like Buffalonians do.  I want to watch the games live so I pay for the Sunday Ticket.  In the past when I couldn’t afford Sunday Ticket I watched the recorded games on GamePass through NFL.com.

 

Lastly.  Why is it that the owners are considered greedy?  I notice it is always the other person who is being greedy.  I’m certainly not greedy when I try to maximize my salary from my employer and I would assume no one here would consider themselves greedy for doing the same.  But an NFL owner wants to maximize the return on his BILLION dollar investment and he is condemned for being greedy.  An owner doing the same thing I do-trying to maximize a return on investments-isn’t more greedy than I am just because his net worth has a lot more zeros than mine does.

Edited 4 hours ago by Johnny Bravo

[first_and_ten]

4 minutes ago, Johnny Bravo said:

How are they ripping you off?  The NFL offers a product that comes for a price they are charging.  If you think the product is worth the price you buy it.  If you don’t, then you don’t.

 

We all love the Bills here.  For me, frankly, the idea of not being a Bills fan anymore is analogous to not being a brother to my brother.  It’s unthinkable.  But that love of the Bills and decades of devotion doesn’t give me any right to someone else’s product that I haven’t paid for.

 

i live in Virginia where I don’t get every Bills game for free like Buffalonians do.  I want to watch the games live so I pay for the Sunday Ticket.  In the past when I couldn’t afford Sunday Ticket I watched the recorded games on GamePass through NFL.com.

 

Lastly.  Why is it that the owners are considered greedy?  I notice it is always the other person who is being greedy.  I’m certainly not greedy when I try to maximize my salary from my employer and I would assume no one here would consider themselves greedy for doing the same.  But an NFL owner wants to maximize the return on his BILLION dollar investment and he is condemned for being greedy.  An owner doing the same thing I do-trying to maximize a return on investments-isn’t more greedy than I am just because his net worth has a lot more zeros than mine does.

 

The same way the recording industry were ripping people off. If there was a natural disaster and people could not find water, to overcharge for something people need is wrong, right? I know that football is not a need, but I hope you get my point. They know how much people love football, so they squeeze ever dime that that they can get. That's greed. Greed is wrong. because of this greed, there are many people who love football that cannot afford to pay for it. What about those people? Do you care about them? We already know that the owners don't, as we see it in their actions. 

 

Your last point: Are you trying to defend the owners now? Are you going to actually try to say they are not greedy? Trying to get a raise from your employer is just not a good analogy. I have to laugh when you say the owners want to maximize their return on their billion dollar investment. The day after they buy a franchise, their investment has gone way up. Look at Bill's worth now compared to the price that Pegula paid. 

[Johnny Bravo]

1 hour ago, first_and_ten said:

 

The same way the recording industry were ripping people off. If there was a natural disaster and people could not find water, to overcharge for something people need is wrong, right? I know that football is not a need, but I hope you get my point. They know how much people love football, so they squeeze ever dime that that they can get. That's greed. Greed is wrong. because of this greed, there are many people who love football that cannot afford to pay for it. What about those people? Do you care about them? We already know that the owners don't, as we see it in their actions. 

 

Your last point: Are you trying to defend the owners now? Are you going to actually try to say they are not greedy? Trying to get a raise from your employer is just not a good analogy. I have to laugh when you say the owners want to maximize their return on their billion dollar investment. The day after they buy a franchise, their investment has gone way up. Look at Bill's worth now compared to the price that Pegula paid. 

First, you are right.  Watching your favorite football team live is not a need. Second, even with needs like water, the fact that they are needs doesn't change what it costs to provide them.  In a natural disaster, the costs of providing those needs goes up and should be reflected in the price.  In fact, in a free market high prices in a time of disaster are a good thing for a few reasons.  1) because they discourage hoarding.  If a bottle of water costs $10 people will buy only what they really need therefore rationing the scarce critical resource so that everyone can have it.  2) because the high prices signal a demand from consumers (and they signal a chance for profits for providers)-which incentivizes those providers to provided the critical resources needed.  

 

I say that only to say that it is NEVER as simple as greedy and evil-even though thinking that way can be used to justify doing what we want to do.

 

In the end, if one really believes that the owners are being greedy, one should then refuse to feed into their greed by boycotting their product

Otherwise, you are left with trying to defend the idea that two wrongs make a right-they are "greedy" so it is okay for me to steal.