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2 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

The only real exception to this would be Mahomes in 2017.  Everyone on the team knew he was going to be a star and already the best QB on the rostetr.  Alex Smith was an entrenched veteran though and Andy Reid's outstanding coaching resume up to that point allowed them to "get away with it" for lack of a better term. 

 

The Browns should wish they had an Alex Smith and be happy! 

 

I truly feel for the people who try to be their fans. 

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2 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

The Browns should wish they had an Alex Smith and be happy! 

 

I truly feel for the people who try to be their fans. 

All hope isn't lost.  Watson said he's coming back from injury and he'll be better than ever.

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

All hope isn't lost.  Watson said he's coming back from injury and he'll be better than ever.

 

Yes, just a few more massages and he should be feeling quite fine. 

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Posted
46 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

He has 250 touchdowns to even reach the career of Joe flacco 

 

I don't think much of Joe but I 100% would rather have Joe flacco as my quarterback than shador Sanders 

 

Who I do not think is a starting quarterback in the NFL and Joe flacco has proven he's a decade-long starter with a super bowl 

 

 stronger arm can read zone coverage better quicker release.. Sanders has his name and 40 passing touchdowns in college.. that's basically it 

 

I have not been high on Sanders for years and I'm not going to magically flip it

 

He's tyrod Taylor with less mobility.. a 6 ft 1 pocket passer who can't move great and doesn't have a crazy strong arm

 

He is good against man coverage which is a plus, but he's a little weak versus zone which most of the NFL does

 

I am not that high in Sanders either. The difference between us here is you think the corpse of Joe Flaccon can still play. I don't. Not even a little bit. 

45 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

The only real exception to this would be Mahomes in 2017.  Everyone on the team knew he was going to be a star and already the best QB on the rostetr.  Alex Smith was an entrenched veteran though and Andy Reid's outstanding coaching resume up to that point allowed them to "get away with it" for lack of a better term. 

 

Yea but you hear people talk about the first half of that season and they were not sure he was the best QB on the roster. Most talented, yep. But he still had some kinks and Smith was playing good ball.

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Posted (edited)
10 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I am not that high in Sanders either. The difference between us here is you think the corpse of Joe Flaccon can still play. I don't. Not even a little bit. 

 

Yea but you hear people talk about the first half of that season and they were not sure he was the best QB on the roster. Most talented, yep. But he still had some kinks and Smith was playing good ball.

12 touchdowns to 7 interceptions with an 90 rating while not being the full-time guy 

 

I don't think Sanders is anything close to a 90 rating as a rookie and is going to be under seven yards per attempt And Joe was over 7 yards.. Sanders will have 15 pics and 12 touchdowns if he starts 10 games

 

If you sit Sanders he might become better throwing him to the fire will keep his NFL career short and quick as a starter

 

Like tyrod Taylor he can have a long career if he sits on the bench for a few years... He needs to sit he has way too many flaws

 

 

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24 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

12 touchdowns to 7 interceptions with an 90 rating while not being the full-time guy 

 

I don't think Sanders is anything close to a 90 rating as a rookie and is going to be under seven yards per attempt And Joe was over 7 yards.. Sanders will have 15 pics and 12 touchdowns if he starts 10 games

 

If you sit Sanders he might become better throwing him to the fire will keep his NFL career short and quick as a starter

 

Like tyrod Taylor he can have a long career if he sits on the bench for a few years... He needs to sit he has way too many flaws

 

 

 

We will see. If Flacco starts this year it will be a walking disaster. I guarantee you.

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10 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

We will see. If Flacco starts this year it will be a walking disaster. I guarantee you.

Well I could guarantee Sanders would also lol top 3 pick

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Posted
3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Been saying it since the draft - The best QB on that roster is Sanders. And yet he is not gonna get a shot at the job. 

 

Only in Cleveland.

He’ll get the job, the owner already made them draft him, if you think he won’t force them to play him, I think you are mistaken.  I can not for the life of me understand what they were doing drafting Gabriel, dude is a priority undrafted FA at best.  What a waste of picks to not only take him, but then trade UP to take a better QB after him.

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3 hours ago, QCity said:

 

We used to do this with EJ, Jeff Tuel, and Thad Lewis.

 

Here' a little fun fact I learned the other day. Jeff Tuel's HS alma matter is Clovis West HS in Fresno, CA. As we all know, Josh went to Firebaugh HS, which is only like 30 mins away.

Posted
3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Been saying it since the draft - The best QB on that roster is Sanders. And yet he is not gonna get a shot at the job. 

 

Only in Cleveland.

Are you really sure he’s the best QB when he went in the 4th round and was the 2nd QB taken by his own team?  

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3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

You can sit a guy who is clearly the best guy for 2 weeks. Or 3 weeks. You can't do it much beyond that. Your locker room won't buy it and frankly the guy who is better and sitting won't buy it either. You might have been able to do that 25 years ago. You can't today.

KC did it eight years ago with Mahomes - and he was a high 1st round pick.

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Posted
2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Yea but you hear people talk about the first half of that season and they were not sure he was the best QB on the roster. Most talented, yep. But he still had some kinks and Smith was playing good ball.

I thought that I remember being reports when the offense went in a slump in the middle of the season that some players thought Mahomes should start.  Maybe I'm misremembering though.  

Posted
6 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Been saying it since the draft - The best QB on that roster is Sanders. And yet he is not gonna get a shot at the job. 

 

Only in Cleveland.

And sorry, but he isn't going to be great.  They just can't get it right.

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The Browns aren’t the organization to help cultivate the skills and talents of any young QB.

 

 Maybe Sanders is the best of an uninspiring QB group in Cleveland, but it won’t matter because until they get new ownership and a new direction, it’s just more of the same.

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