Taylor Rapp underrated? Espn thinks so!

[balln]

4 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

We need to improve and I feel Forrest is already an upgrade and we have a guy who is going into his 2md year we need to develop. Or at least see if he can be the guy. 

Bishop right now can't beat out Forrest.  BUT... he should be given every chance throughout the year. 

Cole bishop can’t beat out Forrest? He better !

[Sierra Foothills]

3 hours ago, Doc said:

Just a side note, Belicheat tried to sign him in 2023.

 

Are you sure that wasn't Jordon Hudson?

 

2 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Hamlin flat sucks, and needs to be a backup at best.

 

I feel like Hamlin gets a bum rapp... err... rap.

 

[boyst]

3 minutes ago, balln said:

Cole bishop can’t beat out Forrest? He better !

It won't matter if neither one of them cannot beat out Hamlin. Hamlin is also underrated. He's not excellent, nor is he really good. But he doesn't make many mistakes and he doesn't cause a lot of problems. He lacks speed and athelticism to make the plays or close them out but those are not evidence of mistakes.

[balln]

17 minutes ago, boyst said:

It won't matter if neither one of them cannot beat out Hamlin. Hamlin is also underrated. He's not excellent, nor is he really good. But he doesn't make many mistakes and he doesn't cause a lot of problems. He lacks speed and athelticism to make the plays or close them out but those are not evidence of mistakes.

Oh I’m with you. Hamlin is a ceiling backup player. Rapp is ok. But also a journeyman. I don’t think he’s great in pass game. He made a lot of hustle long chase down td saving plays last year. Which I’m sure McD splooges over. 
 

our safeties were metrically bottom 2-3 unit in league . Also worst 3rd down D. And I’m sure worse at 3rd and long. The safeties have a big part in that 

 

I want bishop and the rookie from Ohio st starting next year 

Edited yesterday at 01:23 AM by balln

[boyst]

16 minutes ago, balln said:

Oh I’m with you. Hamlin is a ceiling backup player. Rapp is ok. But also a journeyman. I don’t think he’s great in pass game. He made a lot of hustle long chase down td saving plays last year. Which I’m sure McD splooges over. 
 

our safeties were metrically bottom 2-3 unit in league . Also worst 3rd down D. And I’m sure worse at 3rd and long. The safeties have a big part in that 

 

I want bishop and the rookie from Ohio st starting next year 

It'll be tough to put Bishop in with the mistakes he makes unless he fixes himself. McDermott can only hid so many blemishes. If Dorian Williams ends up starting next year or sooner depending on Milano's health it'll be a lot to cover up for at MLB. I'd play it safe and keep it Hamlin in over Bishop if Milano is not going to be there.

[SoonerBillsFan]

1 hour ago, balln said:

Cole bishop can’t beat out Forrest? He better !

Have you seen Forrests highlights before his injury?

[Charles Romes]

That Jets game sealed the fate of both teams and Rapp was the player of the game. When he separated Garrett from the ball in the end zone that was the play of the game, and also the year. 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

7 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

It will be Rapp and whoever else at Safety this year.  Right now I see it being Forrest.   

It’s going to be Bishop. The team likes guys alot more than the fans. 9 and 24. Those are the S.

[JoshAllin]

Bishops legit 2nd round talent, and this year he proves it. It'll be him and Rapp. I have no idea why Forrests name is even coming up

[SoTier]

15 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

Rapp saved us so many TDs and games last year by never giving up on plays. The guy is one of the only people we had that plays with general aggression. He was probably my favorite player on the miserable Defense and was never appreciated even by our own fans. Safety WAS a problem last year but it was the other guy.

 

I thought the biggest problem for the Bills last year was WR.        /sarcasm off

 

13 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

Schatz is the guy who once called Allen "a parody of a NFL quarterback" and also said, "the idea that Josh Allen could become an elite NFL quarterback pretty much defies math.”

 

I can't say I trust his judgment.  

 

I can't blame the guy for his poor prediction about Allen since I was skeptical about Allen, too.  Many were.  As a rookie, Allen's most notable traits were his leadership and his willingness to do whatever he needed to do to win.   To call Allen's improvement from his rookie season to today "impressive" is a huge understatement.  It has been awe-inspiring.

 

9 hours ago, Orlando Buffalo said:

We have Josh Allen, Dion Dawkin, Cook, and Benford, we are now accustomed to guys being top 5 or even all timers. Good time to be aBillsfan.

 

I remember a time within the last two decades when Rapp would have been the best player on the team.

 

9 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Bishop right now can't beat out Forrest.  BUT... he should be given every chance throughout the year. 

 

You don't know that; the team hasn't even had any mandatory workouts yet.

[BuffaloBillies]

He prepares well and gives it his alll. Gotta respect that at least. 

[Doc]

Outside of Rapp at SS and Hamlin and Bishop at FS, do we know where Forrest and Hancock will compete?  I believe Forrest played at FS with the Commanders but I'm thinking with the Bills he's a SS.

[Pete]

7 hours ago, JoshAllin said:

Bishops legit 2nd round talent, and this year he proves it. It'll be him and Rapp. I have no idea why Forrests name is even coming up

Was your Forest take the sane when we signed Poyer?  NFL teams value players differently than fans 

Iron sharpens iron

[hondo in seattle]

13 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

He also was the only voter to give Allen an MVP vote in 2023 denying Jackson all 50 votes and took a lot of heat for it.  He voted for Lamar this year.  He takes his DVOA pretty seriously.

 

3 hours ago, SoTier said:

 

I can't blame the guy for his poor prediction about Allen since I was skeptical about Allen, too.  Many were.  As a rookie, Allen's most notable traits were his leadership and his willingness to do whatever he needed to do to win.   To call Allen's improvement from his rookie season to today "impressive" is a huge understatement.  It has been awe-inspiring.

 

 

 

It wasn't just that Schatz was wrong about Josh.  Many were - and with good reason.  But I never liked Schatz's hubris.  When he said Allen success in the NFL would 'defy math,' he misspoke.  Math was never defied; Schatz's math was defied.  Schatz was seemingly arrogant enough to believe his advanced metrics would better predict NFL success than Beane's judgment or the judgment of many professional personnel guys who saw Josh as a solid first-rounder.  

 

I once heard a scout say that zero college QBs are pro-ready.  They all have things to learn and improve.  The evaluation of college signal callers isn't just about their current (college) skill set, it's about the likelihood that they'll grow into a good NFL QB.  Work habits, dedication, maturity, discipline, intelligence, etc. come into play. 

 

Schatz's DVOA and other metrics can't measure that.  Yet Schatz spouted garbage that Josh becoming successful would violate fundamental laws of the universe.   Instead of now calling Allen an outlier, I'd love for Schatz to say, "My analytical tools just aren't good enough."  

[Doc Brown]

1 hour ago, hondo in seattle said:

Schatz's DVOA and other metrics can't measure that.  Yet Schatz spouted garbage that Josh becoming successful would violate fundamental laws of the universe.   Instead of now calling Allen an outlier, I'd love for Schatz to say, "My analytical tools just aren't good enough."  

He did post this if interested.  Kind of splitting the baby here.

 

 

[BuffaloBill]

On 5/25/2025 at 1:53 PM, BlueRed said:

I do remember one of the Jets games where he caught breece hall inside the 5 and broke up a play in the end zone. His impact pretty much won that game which I think is impressive to do as a safety. 

Although not elite I think I’d agree he’s probably underrated and under appreciated. 

 

I like Rapp a ton. It’s plays like this that not enough Bills fans pay attention to. 

[SoonerBillsFan]

17 hours ago, balln said:

Cole bishop can’t beat out Forrest? He better !

Based in what?  Forrest was damn good before the injury. Bishop hardly got on the field

 

 

Now I want Bishop to win the job and become an All Pro, but right now Forrest has to be the favorite to start opposite Rapp

[3rdand12]

20 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Hamlin flat sucks, and needs to be a backup at best.

Harsher language than I might use  lol

 I would say " there is some room for improvement at the position " lol

18 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said:

Fixed.

 

 

I smell a controversy !!

 Bishop vs Forrest

I gotta hope for the draft pick , but ...

Edited 22 hours ago by 3rdand12

[Kirby Jackson]

I think Rapp is a little underrated. He’s a solid starter IMO. He isn’t perfect and can be upgraded from. At the same time, it would be easy to downgrade as well. 

[GASabresIUFan]

4 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Based in what?  Forrest was damn good before the injury. Bishop hardly got on the field

 

 

Now I want Bishop to win the job and become an All Pro, but right now Forrest has to be the favorite to start opposite Rapp

Besides starting 4 games, playing 34% of the team D snaps (358 plays), and 52% of the ST plays (219 snaps).  Other than that he hardly played at all. 😉

 

By the way Forrest only played 74 D snaps last season over 10 games (12%) with one start.  He did play 153 ST snaps (53%) for Wash last season.  

Edited 19 hours ago by GASabresIUFan