SoonerBillsFan Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago You know McBeane will be talking to him. They just can't help it Quote
RoscoeParrish Posted 15 hours ago Author Posted 15 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, BananaB said: The last 6 games of the season he caught 12 passes. 3 of those games he had 0 catches. After Brady took over play calling he had 4 games without a catch 2 hours ago, RoscoeParrish said: Last 6 games of 2023 (including when he was hurt), he was on a 34 catches for 725 yards and 6 TD pace. I said this and linked it. 46 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: I think you read that wrong bro The last six games he had 256 yards on 12 catches... He had 745 yards all season not in last 6 games It has the 17 game pace on the link. I think you read it wrong. I didn’t say he had 745 yards in the last 6 games. Edited 15 hours ago by RoscoeParrish Quote
NoName Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 1 hour ago, BananaB said: The last 6 games of the season he caught 12 passes. 3 of those games he had 0 catches. After Brady took over play calling he had 4 games without a catch This post changed got me to see it differently. I forgot about that drought once Brady took over play calling. I don't think there is any chance they bring him back. Quote
BananaB Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 4 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said: I quoted this After I said he was a ghost in Brady’s offense, . I’m not even sure what your going on about after you posted the stats Quote
TheBrownBear Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago Would be almost foolish not to bring him in to compete for a spot at vet minimum if available. Moore is no sure thing and we don't really have a replacement for Mack Hollins. He's not a #2, but he could slot in as a solid #4 type. Quote
RoscoeParrish Posted 15 hours ago Author Posted 15 hours ago Just now, BananaB said: After I said he was a ghost in Brady’s offense, . I’m not even sure what your going on about after you posted the stats He wasn’t a ghost. Over the last 6 games, he had 12 catches for 256 yards and 2 TDs Paced over 17 games, that’s 34 catches, 725 yards and 6 TDs Which is basically right around his career averages. He was the same player after Brady took over. Nothing changed. 1 Quote
Chandler#81 Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago Never liked him as a starting WR. Sure, he scored some BIG TDs for us and I’m grateful to him for this. But he’s a loper, doesn’t have any moves and poor hands. He had a heyday for himself in Buffalo but we’re wiser now and so is Jax. 3 Quote
RunTheBall Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 19 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said: He wasn’t a ghost. Over the last 6 games, he had 12 catches for 256 yards and 2 TDs Paced over 17 games, that’s 34 catches, 725 yards and 6 TDs Which is basically right around his career averages. He was the same player after Brady took over. Nothing changed. Listen Gabe, you were a good dude but it’s over. Josh got you your bag, go enjoy it. We both know if you sign here, you are going to drop your first important pass then roll that glass ankle you have and gimp around for 16 weeks. Thanks for the KC memories 1 Quote
BananaB Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 29 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said: He wasn’t a ghost. Over the last 6 games, he had 12 catches for 256 yards and 2 TDs Paced over 17 games, that’s 34 catches, 725 yards and 6 TDs Which is basically right around his career averages. He was the same player after Brady took over. Nothing changed. He had 4 games with zero catches. Quote
Since1981 Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago Gabe reminds me of a few board members—had his moment, especially against KC, but it’s starting to feel like a high school athlete who peaked once. Time for our WR room to mature and move forward. 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 39 minutes ago, NoName said: This post changed got me to see it differently. I forgot about that drought once Brady took over play calling. I don't think there is any chance they bring him back. Believe me there is. Brandon Beane loves him. If he comes back that is a 100% Beane decision. 1 1 Quote
NickelCity Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Believe me there is. Brandon Beane loves him. I agree with this. And it drives me nuts that it's true. Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago (edited) If you're bringing him back to be a Starter and paying him a bag, absolutely not. Terrible idea. If you're bringing him back as a Blocking WR who's your 5th option on a cheap deal (possibly minimum since he's being paid by Jacksonville) and isn't forced the ball to unless he's open - I don't see an issue with bringing him to Camp. Considering we paid Josh Palmer a relatively decent sized long term bag and invested pick 33 into Keon Coleman combined with our cap situation, if we brought him in the first scenario isn't really an option for him. But right now, our 5th WR is basically being handed to Elijah Moore (unless you consider Tyrell Shavers, Kaden Prather, Laviska Shenault, etc. as legitimate competition). And there's questions on his fit in the locker room and his skills and his contract is probably one that doesn't have much guaranteed money that would preclude us from moving on from him. I don't think it's crazy to think Gabe could make him expendable or at the very least really push him to earn that spot. Ultimately, it comes down to Josh for me. If Josh wants him, who are we to say "no you can't have him"? If Josh doesn't care or doesn't want him, then don't bother. But even if it's a move Josh is pulling for, I think it would also come down to Gabe. Does he want to come back for a reserve spot duty role that is guaranteed nothing and is paid little? Regardless of what posters say of him in this thread, it's likely he has a better opportunity elsewhere. Edited 14 hours ago by BillsFanForever19 Quote
RoscoeParrish Posted 14 hours ago Author Posted 14 hours ago 21 minutes ago, RunTheBall said: Listen Gabe, you were a good dude but it’s over. Josh got you your bag, go enjoy it. We both know if you sign here, you are going to drop your first important pass then roll that glass ankle you have and gimp around for 16 weeks. Thanks for the KC memories Woah this seems overly hostile. I’m not even a big Gabe Davis fan. I think he’s a streaky boom or bust boundary player with questionable hands. if he was a superstar in the making, I don’t think he would have been cut today. I just don’t think he’s immediately WR6 on this roster either. We forget he was good enough for WR2-4 here for his career. Have we gotten that much better with Josh Palmer and Shakir that he has no value, even when he had value behind Diggs, Beasley and John Brown/Sanders? Quote
Mikie2times Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago When we try and determine the impact of Allen and the general talent level of the Bills receiving core the case study should be on Gabe Davis. Davis was our #2 leading WR in 2022 and 2023 only behind Diggs. Similar WR room as we see today. Sure, Shakir broke out a bit more, but Kincaid, Knox, then 2-3 Jamison Crowder, Mac Hollins, Trent Sherfield types. Maybe Samuel and Palmer are a step up from those players, but not multiple steps up. The mold is basically a journeyman type or guy who never broke out. We have signed so many of these players over the last few years and none hit production levels that Gabe did in his time here. So would Gabe come in here and be competitive for the number #2 spot almost right away? I think he would, and that's all you really need to know about how strong the group is we have. A guy Jacksonville doesn't even want is good enough to be our #2. 1 Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 7 hours ago, Bullfrog said: Honestly I hope not. Good dude but I was never a fan of WRS that put up all there stats in 3-4 games He was addition by subtraction, as a "#2".... I pillaged dude here for years. HOWEVER, if his market is as expected (not hot), i would be open to him coming back as a personnel/situational chess piece. His hands absolutely suck, but hes a deep ball trick pony (At least was before his injury this year, what was it again?). That could've been helpful as a depth and situational type player. Games where he doesnt see the field, and games where he sees a decent amount of snaps on the outside. Poo-poo me all you want, but he couldve been a helpful piece last season in AFCCG vs Chiefs, even as a decoy/field opener Quote
Doc Brown Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 34 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Believe me there is. Brandon Beane loves him. If he comes back that is a 100% Beane decision. McDermott loves him too. I don't think they'd have signed Moore if they knew Gabe was going to be released. They still might sign Gabe though. Quote
BananaB Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago (edited) 29 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said: Woah this seems overly hostile. I’m not even a big Gabe Davis fan. I think he’s a streaky boom or bust boundary player with questionable hands. if he was a superstar in the making, I don’t think he would have been cut today. I just don’t think he’s immediately WR6 on this roster either. We forget he was good enough for WR2-4 here for his career. Have we gotten that much better with Josh Palmer and Shakir that he has no value, even when he had value behind Diggs, Beasley and John Brown/Sanders? Problem is there is no consistency with Gabe. The big games were great, but if he’s a no show in other games what’s the point? The negative outweighs the positive. The dropped balls, miscommunications and disappearing acts all add up. Edited 14 hours ago by BananaB Quote
first_and_ten Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 7 hours ago, BarleyNY said: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/47723/gabriel-davis 2025 Option bonus and salary, which is almost his entire compensation package for 2025, is guaranteed. The Jags paid/are paying $24M for 11 weeks of Gabe Davis. Wow. Wonder if the Jags insured him. Thanks for answering the question I had 1 Quote
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