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1 hour ago, The Wiz said:

Welp.  Already started. 🤣

 

 

Maybe I am missing something but Shakir, Coleman and Samuel were all on the team last year.


Hollins is gone and has ostensibly been replaced by Palmer. Amari Cooper is gone and now potentially replaced by Moore.

 

So not sure why Clay seems to think there is not enough room for all of them.

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Kind of amazing how different this team is than drought teams.
 

Back then, we might have one great receiver, two passable guys, and barely 2-3 more to round it out. If someone got injured, we would be in a tough spot. 
 

Now, we will have to cut probably 3 guys who can probably start or get meaningful snaps for other teams.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:


Well it’s more than just that I get your what you’re saying though. They’re not going to not play Coleman as he’s a high draft pick and Samuel is going to be on the roster because his contract will dictate that. They paid Palmer solid # 3 money so Shavers opportunity is Moore and maybeeee  Samuel 

If you can't beat those guys you don't deserve a roster spot to be honest. 

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Posted (edited)
7 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

IMO he doesn’t sign with Buffalo without having a reasonable assurance.

 

Meh there's no assurances for low cost reclamation projects signed after the draft. I'm sure he signed here mainly because there's a clear path to making the roster and producing with an elite QB, not because we guaranteed him a bunch of money. I'd definitely make him the favorite for the #5 spot right now.

 

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7 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Kind of amazing how different this team is than drought teams.
 

Back then, we might have one great receiver, two passable guys, and barely 2-3 more to round it out. If someone got injured, we would be in a tough spot. 
 

Now, we will have to cut probably 3 guys who can probably start or get meaningful snaps for other teams.

 

 

At WR? Not a chance. Right now, they are bare minimum above the threshold for NFL caliber.

And we don't have one great receiver. Shakir is the best. He is in the good/very good range. He seems superlative in comparison to the rest of the receiver room.

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So we have 6 receivers on the roster all 6’ 1” or under.  In fact we only have two receivers over 6’ 1” and that Shavers and the 7th round rookie.  This is going to be fun to watch…aim small miss small Josh. 

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Posted
Just now, 2003Contenders said:

Maybe I am missing something but Shakir, Coleman and Samuel were all on the team last year.


Hollins is gone and has ostensibly been replaced by Palmer. Amari Cooper is gone and now potentially replaced by Moore.

 

So not sure why Clay seems to think there is not enough room for all of them.

Because either they don't know how the bills run their offense or is just writing a story to make up a reason to contradict everything that has been being said the last 72 hours.

 

Either way, It's likely going to be Coleman, Shakir and two others fighting for the WR3 and WR4 job.  Bills did switch to a heavier run offense this year and I expect that to continue so it's likely going to be either a TE or added OL as the extra WR (assuming they are keeping a RB in on those downs).  So WR4 isn't as important but is still good to have depth wise.

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I don’t get why people are writing him off like he is gonna be lucky to make this team. Cleveland put a tender on him that guaranteed him 3.4 million this year so he will likely make more or close to that in guaranteed money.
 

He is an equivalent player to John brown and Cole Beasley when they joined the bills

 

here are the starts for all 3 for the 4 years prior to joining the bills:

 

Moore-  joined bill at age 25

  200 catches 2162 yards 9tds

 

Beasley- joined bills at age 30

  228 catches 2355 yards 17 tds

 

Brown- joined bills at age 29

  167 catches 2534 yards 17 tds

 

Moore is just getting to his prime while brown and Beasley put up similar numbers during their prime 

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Posted
16 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

Low risk high reward. We should have a better WR room purely on development and return from injury but this sounds like a Hollins level replacment

 

Im confused why we didn’t keep Hollins

I think NE signed him for about the same?

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Just now, Einstein said:

 

Im confused why we didn’t keep Hollins

He's a rambling man. Has to go to new places to preach the shoeless gospel.

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1 minute ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Kind of amazing how different this team is than drought teams.
 

Back then, we might have one great receiver, two passable guys, and barely 2-3 more to round it out. If someone got injured, we would be in a tough spot. 
 

Now, we will have to cut probably 3 guys who can probably start or get meaningful snaps for other teams.

 

 

Man, remember those teams when it was like Week 12?
 We were usually 5-7 and still mathematically alive….but the dudes they had to trot out onto the field when the starter got injured were just so bad. 

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9 minutes ago, khlax3 said:

I don’t get why people are writing him off like he is gonna be lucky to make this team. Cleveland put a tender on him that guaranteed him 3.4 million this year so he will likely make more or close to that in guaranteed money.
 

He is an equivalent player to John brown and Cole Beasley when they joined the bills

 

here are the starts for all 3 for the 4 years prior to joining the bills:

 

Moore-  joined bill at age 25

  200 catches 2162 yards 9tds

 

Beasley- joined bills at age 30

  228 catches 2355 yards 17 tds

 

Brown- joined bills at age 29

  167 catches 2534 yards 17 tds

 

Moore is just getting to his prime while brown and Beasley put up similar numbers during their prime 

Good post.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Simon said:

 

 

My only question is "Why in the ***** does he even know who these clowns are or what they're saying?"

 

Maybe it wasn't "these clowns" but "all of the clowns" (including TBD and points beyond). Can't imagine Beane is a a tortoise in a shell, my guess is he was genuinely incredulous or taken aback by criticism of a draft he was very happy with. With that said, not a great look for a GM.  

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At worst, an awesome depth signing.  If Shakir goes down, Moore can play the slot.  If Samuel goes down, he can play that role as well.  Kinda reminds a bit of J Brown.  Not a super tall guy, but someone who get downfield when he needs to.

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2 hours ago, Negan said:

Do any of these WR cast offs turn into great players? 

Bills sign their own castoffs back way too much, so I got no problem giving a guy from another team a shot every now and then. 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Mat68 said:

They did draft one this year.  With the first pick last year. They drafted Shorter the year prior and the year before that they picked Shakir.  What are we talking about?

I meant day 2 guys like the Packers did with Watson and Doubs.  Texans did with Collins and Dell, etc...  The odds of finding a WR on day 3 are really slim.  Shakir dropping to the 5th was one of Beane's best picks.

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