Bills First Rnd pick in 2025 draft: Maxwell Hairston - CB - Kentucky

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

So we're just making stuff up now?

 

What actually happened is a trainer did the ACL stability test on him, then after running it he extended his hand to help Hairston up and walk slowly off the field. If the stability test failed I doubt that would have been the trainer's response.

 

Either way it's getting close to calling the competition for Tre. I don't see how Hairston can steal the job at this point given his struggles and now this injury, and with Tre looking pretty good in camp.

Here's hoping. I'm not going to rush to judgement based on sideline chatter. An MCL would suck but he'd be back in the season and be able to get up to speed gradually 

 

As much as any lost time from Hairston would suck Im actually pretty bullish about our depth. I never got the "Bills have a need at CB" talk at draft time. As much as we give Dane Jackson grief he's pretty par for the course for CB2 around the league, not to mention you have Tre (who is looking solid so far) and Ingram (who I thought looked good in limited time last year), plus Dorian Strong as potential upgrades

 

 

 

 

[TH3]

14 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

you're not going to do any more damage to a ruptured achillies limping away either

 

level of assistance received departing the field of play is not a meaningful diagnosis

Torn my ACL 3x... Carried off, carried off, gimped off. All 3x tho it hurt like hell.

If he wasn't howlng.... might be good. 

[GoBills808]

1 minute ago, TH3 said:

Torn my ACL 3x... Carried off, carried off, gimped off. All 3x tho it hurt like hell.

If he wasn't howlng.... might be good. 

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[wolfpack78]

I played offensive line in college football and tore my ACL during a non-contact rep during fall camp.  Felt a pop when it happened, but was able to finish practice and go about the rest of the day.  Next day when I woke up it swelled up and my leg would 'give out' every tenth step or so... I didn't know for sure until the next day something was wrong (though the 'pop' should have been an indication).  One of my teammates (also an Olinemen) tore his ACL in high school but played on it the rest of the year as his team was on a state title run.  Point of all of this is that (in my experience) is that it's not necessarily a painful injury... just makes the leg very unstable.

[pi2000]

Even if he's OK, not a good sign for his long term durability... which was a concern for me at the draft.

[GunnerBill]

46 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

you're not going to do any more damage to a ruptured achillies limping away either

 

level of assistance received departing the field of play is not a meaningful diagnosis

 

Fair enough. My level of soccer a suspected achillies rupture would always have been a stretcher job whereas was pretty common for ACLs to walk off but I don't claim to be an expert.

[nosejob]

I wasn't happy with the pick. There will be a handful of Tariq Woolen types out of the mid to late rounds from this draft. Heck Strong may be starting before long.

I just don't get these 1st round selections. I'm hoping this kid doesn't spend the year on IR. He just don't look like he is gonna be able to handle the business.

[GoBills808]

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Fair enough. My level of soccer a suspected achillies rupture would always have been a stretcher job whereas was pretty common for ACLs to walk off but I don't claim to be an expert.

So I've never done my Achilles but I saw a few in person and I think the difference is how weird the leg feels...your calf sort of rolls up into itself and you can't really move the foot so you just feel like something is wrong

 

ACL feels bad too but not maybe as apparent there is something seriously amiss so why not try to walk it off

 

The ones that really need stretchers are those compound ankle fracture+dislocation where the heel is pointing sideways...seen a couple of those too and it's a look away type injury

[Sojourner]

54 minutes ago, Slippery Rubber Mats said:

We're dangerously close to seeing a whole lotta Dane Jackson this season

[Negan]

Not great Bob!

[GunnerBill]

12 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

So I've never done my Achilles but I saw a few in person and I think the difference is how weird the leg feels...your calf sort of rolls up into itself and you can't really move the foot so you just feel like something is wrong

 

ACL feels bad too but not maybe as apparent there is something seriously amiss so why not try to walk it off

 

The ones that really need stretchers are those compound ankle fracture+dislocation where the heel is pointing sideways...seen a couple of those too and it's a look away type injury

 

Yea I saw plenty of leg / ankle breaks in soccer. They are actually more common than the serious ligament injuries at the level I played and coached. Two of them were literally sickening. I am a tad squeamish at the best of times but I actually vomited on those occasions.

[inkman]

Dorian Strong szn. 

[billsfan89]

1 hour ago, inkman said:

Dorian Strong szn. 

Any word on how he has been? Haven’t heard much 

[Commish]

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― Lemony Snicket, The Hostile Hospital

[Dillenger4]

Cmon Max - we need you buddy!

Having Tre anywhere near the field is gonna be disastrous.

 

[ShakAttack]

So, if it’s NOT a torn ACL, what are the possibilities here. Anyone know? Any time I hear non contact leg it seems to practically guarantee ACL or Achilles 

 

I remember Reggie Ragland years ago tearing both ACLs and was able to walk off the field immediately after. So the fact Hairston “walked off” doesn’t do a whole lot for me.

 

 

[Pete]

3 hours ago, TH3 said:

Torn my ACL 3x... Carried off, carried off, gimped off. All 3x tho it hurt like hell.

If he wasn't howlng.... might be good. 

That sucks.  I tore my ACL when I got pinned between a Pallet Truck and Shelving, working at Stop and Shop warehouse.  I got seen by Stop and Shop doctor who said my knee was alright.  Weeks went by, my knee wasn't getting better.  You know your own body, and I knew the Stop and Shop Dr was full of *****.  I got second opinion. who ordered Xrays and MRI.  I had a Grade III ACL tear

[BillsFanForever19]

17 minutes ago, ShakAttack said:

I remember Reggie Ragland years ago tearing both ACLs and was able to walk off the field immediately after. So the fact Hairston “walked off” doesn’t do a whole lot for me.

 

Was just about to say the same thing. The "walked off the field" means little to nothing. Many, many instances lately where players walk off the field just to be later diagnosed with a Torn ACL.

 

That's not to say definitively that's what's going on here. Just to say the "good news is he walked off the field" narrative isn't worth much at all.

Edited Tuesday at 09:17 PM by BillsFanForever19

[EmotionallyUnstable]

2 hours ago, inkman said:

Dorian Strong szn. 

 

1 hour ago, billsfan89 said:

Any word on how he has been? Haven’t heard much 

Some tweet, which I’ll look for, said he was having a rough go 

 

Edit. Here it is

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 09:31 PM by EmotionallyUnstable

[billsfan89]

2 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

 

Some tweet, which I’ll look for, said he was having a rough go 

Astro’s write up said he looked solid but not hear much else