The Worthy Trade Keeps Looking Worse and Worse

[Victory Formation]

3 minutes ago, galept said:

 

Don't know any BUT Welker was 185 ish. 20 pounds less is pretty small.

Welker could take a lick though, same goes with Edelman too.. I love Worthy as a field stretcher but his level of physicality remains to be seen..

[SoTier]

23 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

You’re not necessarily wrong, but I think the Chiefs believed they had that luxury. I don’t think all GM’s value big physical every down receivers the way fans do. I agree, they were desperate for the next Tyreek Hill, but Hill became a superstar, and he certainly wasn’t the type of prototype dominant receiver I grew up watching. 

 

 

Tyreek was a fifth round pick.  Day three is where small but fast guys tend to go.  Big but fast guys are much harder to find, which is why they tend to go Day 1 or Day2.

 

If Mahomes had had better protection last February, the Chiefs might have had their "threepeat" but they didn't, and all of Worthy's fancy SB stats were meaningless. 

Edited September 7 by SoTier

[NewEra]

5 minutes ago, galept said:

 

Don't know any BUT Welker was 185 ish. 20 pounds less is pretty small.

Yeah that’s my point.  Most slots are 180+.  165 is ultra rare almost to the point of being extinct.  
 

people talking like the short slots of this century are 165lbs.  Beasley is probably the smallest.  Who are the other candidates that are light like Worthy?  None except Dell and Smith.  There’s been 4 good mini skinny slots imo, the 3 I’ve mentioned plus worthy (if he’s even a slot).  Smith and Beasley were relatively healthy.  Dell is brittle like and icicle and worthy is unknown for sure but last night collision had me rolling.  I enjoyed it.  And I don’t feel bad about it.  He’s going to make millions before he’s done playing.  His shoulder will heal

11 minutes ago, Victory Formation said:

Welker could take a lick though, same goes with Edelman too.. I love Worthy as a field stretcher but his level of physicality remains to be seen..

Yeah, both were much more built than worthy

[YodaMan79]

DeVonta Smith (aka the Slim Reaper) feels like the only current NFL receiver who’s undersized and legitimately elite. Every run after the catch still looks like he might get snapped in half, but he keeps producing. Worthy isn’t DeVonta Smith.

[JerseyBills]

 

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Hilarious!!!!

 

 

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

1 hour ago, ganesh said:

He had a great AFCC game against us in January. 

With all this 'inability' to find talent, that team is gunning for its fourth consecutive SB appearance...Will any day take that drafting than our inability to get to the big dance with our draft picks especially for the defense.

McConkey was a 2nd round pick..Worthy was a late 1st round pick.  They could have had their choice if they desired.   McConkey does not have the speed of Worthy

 

OK I was thinking of a WR maybe taken in low 20's??  Thought that was McConkey??

[KingBoots8]

1 minute ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

OK I was thinking of a WR maybe taken in low 20's??  Thought that was McConkey??

BTJ went at pick 24 I think. Ladd went right after we got Coleman

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

4 minutes ago, KingBoots8 said:

BTJ went at pick 24 I think. Ladd went right after we got Coleman

 

Actually it was #23, but yeah that was the guy I was thinking of when I said McConkey

[Scott7975]

 

[Alphadawg7]

There was never a single moment where Worthy was the correct pick for the Bills and their needs.  Still true now, just as it was true on draft night.

 

It’s wild this is even still discussed.  
 

PS - Keon was on pace for a better season than Worthy and on pace for 1,000 yards before he got hurt as a rookie.  And that was on a spread the ball around offense where he was not a primary target as a rookie.  Worthy was a starter the whole season and essentially the 2nd option on that team with Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes.

 

The Bills are a better football team with Keon on it today than if Worthy was on it instead.

[dcinmuncie]

The way i boil it down goes like this 

 

you never trade with your divisional foe

 

even though they aren’t in our division, they may as well be as we face them twice a year every year. 

[FireChans]

4 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

There was never a single moment where Worthy was the correct pick for the Bills and their needs.  Still true now, just as it was true on draft night.

 

It’s wild this is even still discussed.  
 

PS - Keon was on pace for a better season than Worthy and on pace for 1,000 yards before he got hurt as a rookie.  And that was on a spread the ball around offense where he was not a primary target as a rookie.  Worthy was a starter the whole season and essentially the 2nd option on that team with Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes.

 

The Bills are a better football team with Keon on it today than if Worthy was on it instead.

The reason this is still discussed.

 

 

 

led both teams in receiving yards in a playoff game we lost to the Chiefs, again.

Edited September 7 by FireChans

[bmur66]

Roscoe Parrish 2.0. I’ll take Coleman thank you.

[Not at the table Karlos]

11 hours ago, SoTier said:

 

Tyreek was a fifth round pick.  Day three is where small but fast guys tend to go.  Big but fast guys are much harder to find, which is why they tend to go Day 1 or Day2.

 

If Mahomes had had better protection last February, the Chiefs might have had their "threepeat" but they didn't, and all of Worthy's fancy SB stats were meaningless. 

Tyreek had major character concerns. That’s why he went so late.

[Royale with Cheese]

11 hours ago, galept said:

 

Don't know any BUT Welker was 185 ish. 20 pounds less is pretty small.

Welker is much thicker.

 

Edelman has the body of a welterweight fighter while Worthy has the body of a 13 year old KPop Demon Hunter fan.

[HerdMenatlity1]

4 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

There was never a single moment where Worthy was the correct pick for the Bills and their needs.  Still true now, just as it was true on draft night.

 

It’s wild this is even still discussed.  
 

PS - Keon was on pace for a better season than Worthy and on pace for 1,000 yards before he got hurt as a rookie.  And that was on a spread the ball around offense where he was not a primary target as a rookie.  Worthy was a starter the whole season and essentially the 2nd option on that team with Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes.

 

The Bills are a better football team with Keon on it today than if Worthy was on it instead.

I haven’t seen this mentioned anywhere but, last season Worthy had 59 rec. at a 10.9 yd per rec clip. 
Coleman had 29 rec , but at a 19.2 yd per rec clip. I know it’s about half the receptions (due to injury) but, it SHOULD be hard to ignore that difference in the yards per receptions. Wasn’t Worthy supposed to be the bigger down field threat between the two? 

[NewEra]

36 minutes ago, FireChans said:

The reason this is still discussed.

 

 

 

led both teams in receiving yards in a playoff game we lost to the Chiefs, again.

The resolution

 

[NewEra]

 

Oh man- I really hope he plays with a brace.  🤣 

[SoTier]

46 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

Tyreek had major character concerns. That’s why he went so late.

 

So, maybe Tyreek would have gone in the 3rd or 4th round.  Worthy isn't another Tyreek.  He's just a small fast WR.

 

38 minutes ago, HerdMenatlity1 said:

I haven’t seen this mentioned anywhere but, last season Worthy had 59 rec. at a 10.9 yd per rec clip. 
Coleman had 29 rec , but at a 19.2 yd per rec clip. I know it’s about half the receptions (due to injury) but, it SHOULD be hard to ignore that difference in the yards per receptions. Wasn’t Worthy supposed to be the bigger down field threat between the two? 

 

The problems the Chiefs had with their OL probably limited their ability to throw downfield as much any lack of downfield threats, so I think that probably affected Worthy's yards per catch.   Mahomes frequently didn't have time to let long downfield plays develop.   That crappy OL play really bit the Chiefs in the arse in the SB because the Eagles D didn't give Mahomes to hit short passes until the game was out of reach.

[K-9]

8 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

Two of the three players involved in the bills chiefs trade in 2024 are injured.

 

Keon Coleman better watch out tonight.

Not worried as Coleman is more involved in a trade with Carolina.