boyst Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 i'm so glad they pushed Jerry Richardson out for a real standup guy like David Tepper. he just makes people feel good and is a good businessman... that should be no where near football because he is a piece of shiz human being. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 So the “overdrafted” comments are such a joke to me. The only discussion anywhere, here included, was should it be Young or Stroud. So if he was overdrafted, it was by 1 spot-he wasn’t going past 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 1 hour ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Way over drafted. No reason for them to take a chance on pick #1 on an undersized QB from of all schools, Alabama. Biggest break the Texans ever got was the selection of Bryce Young over CJ Stroud. You cant coach size. Carolina in the driver seat to do it all over again in next years draft. The team is in shambles. Rumor has it that Houston also had Young as QB1, so Carolina may have saved them from themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 Just now, mannc said: Rumor has it that Houston also had Young as QB1, so Carolina may have saved them from themselves. Or Young might have taken off in Texans and Stroud fallen apart in Carolina. It's like the Mahomes/Josh argument. Mahomes may have wilted at Buffalo under a different coach with barely any chance to sit and watch before being thrown onto the field. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 This is Young on his first day of 7th Grade.. I mean the first day of Panthers Camp 2024. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 5 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Well, Hurts finished in MVP voting for the 2022 season, and Tua, whatever we might think of him, is statistically an above average thrower (he actually led the league in QB+ rating in 2022). He's 33-20 as a starter. So I'd say two are at least decent to good. But I challenge you to find other schools that have put out two good QBs in that same timeframe. The only reason people focus on Bama is because their guys at least MAKE the NFL. The guys from Texas A & M, Florida, Washington, etc. largely aren't. One or two might, but not five like Bama. The reason i bring up Bama QB's is cause in college, they are all touted in the media as the greatest in the nation (of course under Saban's program, they flourish) and because of this, the NFL drools all over them and can't draft them fast enough. Tua is good, nothing great.......he was an accident waiting to happen in college and in the NFL?.......well, the nation is seeing how that's playing out presently, but people who follow college ball routinely have been saying how frail he was for the NFL caliber D's. Hurts, although he was the starter at Bama for a couple of years, technically was drafted into the NFL from UO. Young is too small for the NFL and Carolina, blinded by Bama QB college greatness snatched him up as the next Panther savior.......and how's that working out for them? AJ McCarron.......and nothing more needs to be said here. .......and the rest on that list, is nothing to write home about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NORWOODS FOOT Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 Stroud has exceeded my expectations, for sure, but I thought Carolina was making a huge mistake on draft night, choosing Young over him. I watched both QB’s closely and just didn’t see Young succeeding with his limited tools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 1 hour ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: It's not like Ohio state had been churning them out either. But, Ohio QB's haven't been drafted too often in the top 3 lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 1 minute ago, Sweats said: The reason i bring up Bama QB's is cause in college, they are all touted in the media as the greatest in the nation (of course under Saban's program, they flourish) and because of this, the NFL drools all over them and can't draft them fast enough. Tua is good, nothing great.......he was an accident waiting to happen in college and in the NFL?.......well, the nation is seeing how that's playing out presently, but people who follow college ball routinely have been saying how frail he was for the NFL caliber D's. Hurts, although he was the starter at Bama for a couple of years, technically was drafted into the NFL from UO. Young is too small for the NFL and Carolina, blinded by Bama QB college greatness snatched him up as the next Panther savior.......and how's that working out for them? AJ McCarron.......and nothing more needs to be said here. .......and the rest on that list, is nothing to write home about. Hurts was on campus in Alabama for 3 years and only in Oklahoma for one He himself calls himself a crimson Tide.. he's absolutely as much Alabama as Oklahoma And point stands again that it's up to the player how they perform in the NFL.. a college can only put you in position to get drafted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: Hurts was on campus in Alabama for 3 years and only in Oklahoma for one He himself calls himself a crimson Tide.. he's absolutely as much Alabama as Oklahoma And point stands again that it's up to the player how they perform in the NFL.. a college can only put you in position to get drafted And Bama QB's perform like **** in the NFL.......try and keep up here, son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 Young looks like a kid playing with grownups. It sounds mean to say, but good lord the kid is going to get broken in half out there. His neck and arms make him look like he's 14. Couple that with a below average arm strength and it's hopeless. By all accounts he seems like a great guy, smart, hard worker, etc. But he is just plain too small to be an NFL QB. For reference, Tua is a few inches taller and outweighs Young by 20 pounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 11 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: Or Young might have taken off in Texans and Stroud fallen apart in Carolina. It's like the Mahomes/Josh argument. Mahomes may have wilted at Buffalo under a different coach with barely any chance to sit and watch before being thrown onto the field. I think that goes too far. We can objectively say that Stroud is really good and that, unless he somehow turns it around, Young sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 Beane licking his chops trying to acquire Panthers players......3...2...1 Thielen? Shaq Thompson? Both for a 2nd and 5th? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 Just now, mannc said: I think that goes too far. We can objectively say that Stroud is really good and that, unless he somehow turns it around, Young sucks. agreed. Stroud has the physical tools. Young does not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Sweats said: And Bama QB's perform like **** in the NFL.......try and keep up here, son. Tua maybe dinged up and struggle versus the bills.. but he does well against most of the other NFL He led the league in passing yards last year. Had 29 touchdown... Has led a team to the playoffs..... Jalen hurts was it Alabama for 3 years and Oklahoma for only one... He is a crimson Tide He is also a pro bowl quarterback.. every quarterback has some issues... But he is strong in the pocket and athletic and built for the modern NFL They have two quarterbacks in the last 6 years drafted that have gone to a pro bowl... Are they your typical quarterback? No But they have absolutely had success when they played bro There's plenty of schools who haven't had one quarterback go to a pro bowl or one quarterback drafted Professional scouts really like tua coming out besides the size issues... You act like the NFL forced teams to draft Alabama quarterbacks Only 7 to 10 quarterbacks get drafted a year... It's not Alabama's fault they consistently get the top guys out of high school so they're always in position to get drafted Edited September 16 by Buffalo716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 1 hour ago, MJS said: I figured he would bust. not laughing at you, i am laughing with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessImproverMan Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 5 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Young looks like a kid playing with grownups. It sounds mean to say, but good lord the kid is going to get broken in half out there. His neck and arms make him look like he's 14. Couple that with a below average arm strength and it's hopeless. By all accounts he seems like a great guy, smart, hard worker, etc. But he is just plain too small to be an NFL QB. For reference, Tua is a few inches taller and outweighs Young by 20 pounds. Murray, and Flutie are smaller and made/make it work. Young just lacks the speed, elusiveness and football IQ to make it work. Cardinals have been to the playoffs with Murray and Flutie got us to the playoffs twice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 1 hour ago, Lafromboise said: There was literally nothing wrong with baker in Cleveland. I really don't understand. The guy wins everywhere he's a good quarterback Yeah, still is a bit mind boggling their decision with Baker. Browns gonna Brown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsatlastin2018 Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 1 hour ago, Sweats said: Just one more example of another Bama QB that can't transition to the NFL. Tis strange about that fact, isn’t it? A dominant, perennial power over the decades, but who are the NFLstandouts after Namath, Starr & Stabler? Been a looooong drought! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Benched for Andy Dalton. Ouch. It looks Young is standing 2 feet behind Dalton. He’s just tiny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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