SWATeam Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 1 minute ago, GoBills808 said: He was WR3 Davis was WR2 Any further questions Yes Can you provide me with KC's WR2 statistics for last season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 (edited) 4 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: He was WR3 Davis was WR2 Any further questions MVS in Buffalo is likely behind: Kincaid Samuel Shakir Coleman Cook So, if you're including other positions for KC, he's probably Option #6 in our Offense, competing with Knox and Davis for targets. The only way he moves up this list is if other guys falter or he steps up. But entering the Summer, this is where he stands. Edited May 14 by SCBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 1 minute ago, SWATeam said: Yes Can you provide me with KC's WR2 statistics for last season? 😂😂I'm sure you can manage to find them yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 On the one hand, it bugs me that Beane is spending less this year on the WR room than the majority of NFL GMs despite having a QB who can throw the ball all over the field. On the other hand, I don't think the cupboard is bare. If a couple guys with spotty or unproven backgrounds step up, and if Brady is good at scheming up an offense, we'll move the ball and score points. Yeah, there are too many ifs but they're not complete longshots. Keeping my fingers crossed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 18 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Probably the Chiefs said this 2 years ago. Gave him $30 million. Ignore that lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: MVS in Buffalo is likely behind: Kincaid Samuel Shakir Coleman Cook So, if you're including other positions for KC, he's probably Option #6 in our Offense, competing with Knox and Davis for targets. The only way he moves up this list is if other guys falter or he steps up. But entering the Summer, this is where he stands. Guess we will have to wait and see won't we Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Buffalo Bills WR room slogan this year should be "The sum is greater than the parts." Issue with their WR/TE group is they're either very young or a one-trick pony. It'll take a lot of scheme and tremendous development to get consistent production. Still no all-around WRs on the roster who can remain on the field in most situations. Diggs lined up in different positions and offered versatility they now lack. It's still going to be a predictable offense in certain situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 12 hours ago, Logic said: MVS has 1,500 more career receiving yards and 6 more TDs than Hollins in the same amount of seasons. MVS has also made a few big plays in the playoffs en route to KC Super Bowl runs, whereas Hollins has really never done anything notable on a big stage. I'll grant you that Claypool's most productive seasons were better than MVS's, but he's three years removed from those now, as his career has taken a STEEP decline, and he was a Bills signing away from playing in Canada. Cephus and Hamler have no argument. To be honest, though, the fact that we're sitting here arguing the comparative merits of MVS, Chase Claypool, and Quintez freaking Cephus is pretty emblematic of what kind of offseason it's been for the Bills in terms of getting Josh Allen any viable weaponry at receiver. MVS has played with prime Aaron Rodgers and Mahomes has never put up a single season better than either Chase or Hollins. And no, this is not indicative of “what kind of offseason it’s been” for getting Allen more weapons. We are talking about guys who will be at and of the bench from WR4 to WR6. And all if these guys are on par, or even better, than a lot of teams WRs at end of bench, including the back to back SB champs. So don’t over exaggerate this as if these guys are here to be primary weapons at the top of the depth chart, at least one, or maybe two will not even make this roster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 5 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: If Coleman is hurt I think MVS steps in as the first boundary WR off the bench. I think Shorter and if he turns it around Claypool could also be in that mix if they show up strong in camp/pre-season. I think this signing shows me they really don’t want to be in a situation where they are a single injury away from having to play the special teams ace on the boundary like they were last season. Well I look at it like the ST guy plays... the game the player is injured. But the next week you install the depth player who will start the next game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Not going to start an entire topic on this but since we’re talking WR, does Shorter have any potential? I know next to nothing about him and we haven’t been able to see him play of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 3 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: On the one hand, it bugs me that Beane is spending less this year on the WR room than the majority of NFL GMs despite having a QB who can throw the ball all over the field. On the other hand, I don't think the cupboard is bare. If a couple guys with spotty or unproven backgrounds step up, and if Brady is good at scheming up an offense, we'll move the ball and score points. Yeah, there are too many ifs but they're not complete longshots. Keeping my fingers crossed. We have a lot of reason for hope, but as I said in another thread.. hope isn't a strategy. We also have a lot of "what ifs".. Our WR room has a pretty high ceiling IF Coleman is the real deal, IF Shakir continues to ascend, IF Samuel just needed a good QB, IF Kincaid makes the Year 2 leap to top tier TE, IF Cook stops dropping big passes... and so on... I like our OL and think we're strong at RB/TE around Josh. The Offense really hinges on making this WR room work for what Brady/Allen envision. On Defense.. very similar what ifs, but on the DL... I think we're much better at DT with Oliver/Jones backed up by Johnson & Carter, but DE is highly volatile with say.. Rousseau, Epenesa, Von, Smoot & Solomon. If they all hit, our Defense is looking great, but that's a lot of hope to put Von/Smoot a full year removed from major injury and a rookie pass rusher. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 The bottom line for me is the Bills need WR with hands of glue. I HATE DROPS. May the best WR's deem themselves worthy at camp to be on this roster Welcome to Buffalo Marquez Vasquez Scantling You hear me? HANDS OF GLUE Marquez . Gracias in advance. BRING IT and we will love you in return. GO BILLS meh I keep thinking this guy has a lot of KC stink on him I dunno. He's gonna need to show up and out. for US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Just now, stevestojan said: Not going to start an entire topic on this but since we’re talking WR, does Shorter have any potential? I know next to nothing about him and we haven’t been able to see him play of course. I bet Shavers has a better shot at sticking. There's been talk about him staying in Buffalo and working all year and he has a reputation as a top special teams player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: So don’t over exaggerate this as if these guys are here to be primary weapons at the top of the depth chart, at least one, or maybe two will not even make this roster. You're right. They have no chance of overtaking such proven top-of-the-depth-chart stalwarts as Curtis Samuel and rookie Keon Coleman. Look, we're just gonna go round and round in circles on this thing, Alpha. I think the Bills have a bottom five in the league WR group. You don't. Let's just shake hands and growl at each other a little and call it a day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 3 minutes ago, muppy said: The bottom line for me is the Bills need WR with hands of glue. I HATE DROPS. May the best WR's deem themselves worthy at camp to be on this roster Welcome to Buffalo Marquez Vasquez Scantling You hear me? HANDS OF GLUE Marquez . Gracias in advance. BRING IT and we will love you in return. GO BILLS meh I keep thinking this guy has a lot of KC stink on him I dunno. He's gonna need to show up and out. for US. Uhhh... while I can appreciate the sentiment, MVS and hands of glue seem to be unlikely bedfellows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 1 minute ago, Logic said: You're right. They have no chance of overtaking such proven top-of-the-depth-chart stalwarts as Curtis Samuel and rookie Keon Coleman. Look, we're just gonna go round and round in circles on this thing, Alpha. I think the Bills have a bottom five in the league WR group. You don't. Let's just shake hands and growl at each other a little and call it a day. It’s all good…but come on man, come back to reality. If you think MVS, Chase, or Hollins are capable of over taking Samuel and even Coleman, then that is the wildest take I have seen all off season. I can accept you are not high on the group, but that is such an unrealistic and over the top take. The only caveat is that Claypool actually has the pure ability and talent to be a WR1 or WR2 and succeed in this league. But his attitude, mental ineptitude, entitlement, etc have sunk his stock to lower than ABs. So if he shocks and comes in and busts his tail off, hustles, puts the effort and work in, he could surprise and maybe be the WR2 for the Bills at some point. But that’s a lot to ask, and I’m not holding my breath as it’s rare a guy can make that kind of turnaround when things like effort and selfishness are so ingrained in their character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 MVS is a deep threat. 15 plus yard per catch for his career. He isn't a potential star but a solid role player. I think it fits the offense and adds an element missing. Those plays in the playoffs are what he would be brought in for. Shakir, Sanders, Coleman, MVS, Hollins. Claypool, Hamler, Isabella, Shorter and Shavers look for 1 sport maybe push for Hollins or MVS spot. Compared to KC and Baltimore it is plenty good enough. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 25 minutes ago, ngbills said: When Diggs was on this roster I would bet if he was still on this roster not many would be saying Diggs is not a #1. Now that he is gone the narrative is he sucked anyway. Ok. So all the times people wanted to add to the wr room and we didn’t need to because we had Diggs and anyone else was gravy. Just pointing out that Diggs hasn’t been all that in the post season, and the later half of last season, did I want someone like a Franklin in the draft? Yes, yes I did, I wanted a double dip at WR, it didn’t happen, so constant complaining about it isn’t changing anything, I moved on…, 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 (edited) 21 minutes ago, transient said: Uhhh... while I can appreciate the sentiment, MVS and hands of glue seem to be unlikely bedfellows. well I was stating my intention and the thought is now out there. We all would love to have that production 🙂 Edited May 14 by muppy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 (edited) 2 hours ago, BarleyNY said: It’s just a shorthand for the quality of a player. Nothing artificial about that. You don’t need to use it, but it’s helpful to understand it. I’d rather have several good guys vs. 1 great guy Edited May 14 by oldmanfan 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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