Brianmoorman4jesus Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 I think for sure we go way up. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 as of today Friday 4-5 we have exactly 19 sleeps before the 2024 NFL Draft. on 4-24-2024 Round 1 I'm not impatient though, nope Nope NOPE tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap 😬 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 5 Author Share Posted April 5 Just now, Brand J said: I understand where you’re coming from, along with everyone else who wants to trade up. Well, except for Warriorspikes, he’d happily give up every pick in the next two drafts for 2 receivers from this one 😅 (just messing with you Warrior) The rare prospects have a term: “can’t miss.” How many players in NFL history had that tag coming into the draft and then… missed? I don’t expect any of the top 3 to bust, neither do NFL evaluators, but man oh man, we just don’t know. In many ways it is a lottery, so many variables go into whether a player has success or not, so I just can’t get behind sacrificing what may be other big time contributors, to take a position that isn’t absolutely crucial to a team’s success. There’s only one of those positions: QB. And that’s the only one I’d be willing to mortgage the future for. Thanks. I appreciate your position. I think it just comes down to risk tolerance. This year, my risk tolerance is high. That's not always the case for me. This year, it is. I've seen the Bills build a roster of good players around Josh Allen, and I've seen the results. I'm ready to take a swing for a GREAT player. And I do understand your argument that no draftees are sure things, and we can potentially get a great player at 28, too. I also feel like a game-changing WR CAN be absolutely crucial to a team's success. I think the market is showing us that, with WRs starting to get $30million+ per year contracts. The market shows us where the league values positions, and right now, NFL GMs value elite receivers. Yes, we can point to the Chiefs winning two Lombardis after trading away Tyreek Hill, but...they have Mahomes and Reid. They're the exception rather than the rule, I think. Anyway, again, I respect where you're coming from and your explanations of why. I just find myself sitting on the opposite end of that ideological spectrum right now. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulmm3 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Not happening. We need to hit on multiple players in the draft this year, not just one. And Beane has said as much. I think the Bills FO would very much prefer to take whatever WR is available at 28 and keep the picks, and I would too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 I’d do it for Nabers. Might not be a totally accepted trade for many, but I think he’d be worth it. You’ve got a true number one there. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 It would be a very aggressive move and it has it's merit but personally I'd rather hope Mitchell or Legette fall to 28 and trade up in the 2nd for another wr. That's just way too much draft capital for me to risk. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 4 minutes ago, Logic said: Thanks. I appreciate your position. I think it just comes down to risk tolerance. This year, my risk tolerance is high. That's not always the case for me. This year, it is. I've seen the Bills build a roster of good players around Josh Allen, and I've seen the results. I'm ready to take a swing for a GREAT player. And I do understand your argument that no draftees are sure things, and we can potentially get a great player at 28, too. I also feel like a game-changing WR CAN be absolutely crucial to a team's success. I think the market is showing us that, with WRs starting to get $30million+ per year contracts. The market shows us where the league values positions, and right now, NFL GMs value elite receivers. Yes, we can point to the Chiefs winning two Lombardis after trading away Tyreek Hill, but...they have Mahomes and Reid. They're the exception rather than the rule, I think. Anyway, again, I respect where you're coming from and your explanations of why. I just find myself sitting on the opposite end of that ideological spectrum right now. Further to your point re: KC.. If you tell me Kincaid is going to be Kelce, then sure.. let’s surround Allen with a bunch of B level WR’s. He changes everything about that Offense. Mahomes has had “that guy” .. the guy we keep hoping to find for Allen .. every year he’s been in the league. Someone who is so elite that you literally cannot take them away in big games. He’s always had 1.. and for a few years, 2 of them. 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Nabers wants his buddy here too😎 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 I see no world where Nabers falls to 7. 4 5 and 6 all have massive needs at WR and Nabers and MH are elite prospects. One of them will trade down with a team moving up for McCarthy. The other two will take MH and Nabers. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 3 minutes ago, Maynard said: I’d do it for Nabers. Might not be a totally accepted trade for many, but I think he’d be worth it. You’ve got a true number one there. Totally agree. Sure we'd have to leave the defense a little depleted this year but we could finish that unit off next year. Build up the firepower this year and if the offense stays hot especially by the time the playoffs start we are still an absolute contender imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 5 Author Share Posted April 5 1 minute ago, SCBills said: Further to your point re: KC.. If you tell me Kincaid is going to be Kelce, then sure.. let’s surround Allen with a bunch of B level WR’s. He changes everything about that Offense. Mahomes has had “that guy” .. the guy we keep hoping to find for Allen .. every year he’s been in the league. Someone who is so elite that you literally cannot take them away in big games. He’s always had 1.. and for a few years, 2 of them. Great point. Thanks! Yes, KC had a cast of also-rans at WR the past couple seasons, but they also had a HOF #1 target that always came up big in big moments. Turn on a Chiefs playoff game from the past two years and what do you see? Kelce coming up with clutch plays when it counts. If I ask you to close your eyes and picture which offensive player other than Josh Allen has come up big in big moments in the playoffs the past few years, who comes to mind? For me, it's NO ONE. Maybe Gabe Davis in the Chiefs playoff game, but he's gone now. The Bills need that guy. Kincaid, as you say, may become him. We hope that's the case. But hope is not a strategy. I'd like to try to get another guy that we think has "big in big moments" potential. Let's find that guy for Josh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 I would absolutely lose my mind if this happened, BUT There is no chance in hell he drops past the Cardinals or Chargers. You could argue that both their receiver depth charts are WORSE than ours. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbeard Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Do it. All in. The Bills will NOT have another QB as talented as Allen. Maybe ever. Give him the best and shoot your shot. ALLLLL IN!!!! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 (edited) If anyone wants to know how to read articles like this without paying, type in: "https://archive.is/" followed by the rest of the URL It'll pull up a link to the archived version of the page that you can read for free. Edited April 5 by BigDingus 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 I'd love it. People are talking about trading for Aiyuk or Higgins. You get a guy like Nabers, you're giving up valuable draft picks - but w/ the money you save having a top tier talent on a rookie contract, you can fill holes in FA instead. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 1 hour ago, BBFL said: Would rather they hold on to 60 personally and move up to the teens and get a possible falling Odunze or Thomas Jr. Nabers looks to be the real deal but there’s a lot of talent in this draft that would even allow you to double dip if you can hang on to 60. They likely wont, but you never know. That’s actually a reasonable stance and I can’t go against the logic you’ve displayed here. I know they probably won't do it, but I would double dip as well, using the 2nd we just recieved from Diggs to use in the 1st or 2nd to move up a few spots if a wr is still there that shouldn't be, if not just keep the 2nd. Either way walk away with 2 good wr targets 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 I know what the media has been saying about the top WR's this year and i don't actually disagree with them, however, in my honest opinion, i really only see MHJ and Nabers as the 2 that are NFL-ready and the most polished of skillset coming into a franchise and absolutely starting day 1. Nabers kind of reminds me of a similar JJ type, so i am completely onboard with that. The dude has speed, excellent footwork, his route tree is outstanding, he's not afraid to mix it up and get his hands dirty or fight for extra yards. This is the guy that i want to see play alongside JA. I have spoken. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 13 minutes ago, Logic said: Great point. Thanks! Yes, KC had a cast of also-rans at WR the past couple seasons, but they also had a HOF #1 target that always came up big in big moments. Turn on a Chiefs playoff game from the past two years and what do you see? Kelce coming up with clutch plays when it counts. If I ask you to close your eyes and picture which offensive player other than Josh Allen has come up big in big moments in the playoffs the past few years, who comes to mind? For me, it's NO ONE. Maybe Gabe Davis in the Chiefs playoff game, but he's gone now. The Bills need that guy. Kincaid, as you say, may become him. We hope that's the case. But hope is not a strategy. I'd like to try to get another guy that we think has "big in big moments" potential. Let's find that guy for Josh. This might not be a popular opinion but I think Kincaid more likely becomes a Hockenson level player rather than a Kelce level player. That's nothing to squeeze at, but it won't win you a SB on its own. If we trade the farm to move up, it needs to be for Marvin Harrison Jr, and not for Nabers. Nabers is already California Dreaming, and we don't want to give up everything for a glum Gilmore face when he gets called up to the podium. We don't want the hot girl that's trying to pawn her less attractive friend on to us. Justin Jefferson will be an extremely expensive red flag, Aiyuk will be a mid-tier WR1, and Tee Higgins is an elite WR2, not a WR1. If we trade for a $100M guy it should be DK Metcalf or CeeDee Lamb. If they're not available, trade up in the draft for MH Jr. We can go for Mitchell or Legette or McConkey, but those are good starters, not superstars. And Allen needs a superstar. For me, its Harrison or nothing this year. Then grab a Legette or a Worthy later in the draft to add speed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Not to pour water on this campfire, but Nabers was "live" on his social media yesterday after his visit with the Chargers in LA talking to a realtor and viewing the ocean from a spectacular patio Can you blame him? 22 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Nabers wants his buddy here too😎 This is the more realistic scenario. Can grab Thomas in the teens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennstate10 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 For the most part, I think the top 100 picks are where you form the nucleus of your team. I don’t like the idea of putting all your eggs (4 top 100 picks) in one basket. If the guy gets hurt, or doesn’t pan out you have no backup plan. it’s almost like the Ricky Williams draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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