PSL Pricing/Seat Selection Discussion

[Jukester]

4 hours ago, gmanbfan said:

So investments...

 

Let's say I get a pair of tickets for the new stadium with the intention of going to three games a year, and selling the other 5-6 games.  For those three years, I go to the games I want to, and use the profits from sales pay the ticket price for those games, and collect the extra profits pay off the PSL fee I incurred.  

 

Then after three years I sell the PSL rights to someone else who pays 25% more then what I paid (which is now all profit as I used sales of seats to pay off the PSLs)

 

I've watched bills games for free for three years, and made good coin selling off the psl's.  Sounds like an investment with added benifits to me.

 

And for those who say i'll just go to 2-3 games a year - FACE VALUE price on ticketmaster for the worst seat in the house for the KC game is $356.00.

 

I think it's a pretty decent investment as a bills fan.

You lost me at selling PSL at a 25% markup….😂

[Einstein]

54 minutes ago, Jukester said:

You lost me at selling PSL at a 25% markup….😂

Perhaps he meant he would be able to sell them for 25% of what he originally paid.

[gmanbfan]

My seats will be a 1k-1.5K PSL.  I sit in the upper corners, and I love it there. 

 

Each of those seats in the new stadium are going to be gobbled up, if not by actual season ticket members who attend games like myself, brokers will grab them.  The average ticket price for my seat is $80 a game, and the Bills are selling a seat right behind my row for the KC game for $356 dollars.  All I have to do this year is sell the BALT and KC game, this year, and my seasons are paid for, and I attend 7 games for nothing.  Sell a few more over the next 3 years, paid off PSLs.  

 

For someone who goes to lots of games, loves the tailgate, and couldn't care less where they sit (like me), it's a no brainer to pay those PSLs.  I think in 2-3 years I could transfer my seasons and get the 1K/seat PSL back.

 

Now - the expensive lower bowl or clubs, not the same thing.  Comparing apples and oranges.  Anyone who paid 50K for a PSL, ya, you're not worrying about selling those down the road, and if you are, then good luck to you.

 

 

[PromoTheRobot]

8 hours ago, Einstein said:

No it's not. 

An investment implies the earning of profit. 

 

I don't expect to make it back.

[Cheektowaga Chad]

Idk if anyone should expect to get the initial cost of a PSL back a few years down the road, let alone more 

 

But if you like going to games, a $1k-$1.5k PSL in which you can pay off over 18 months interest free isnt terrible  

[Kirby Jackson]

34 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

I don't expect to make it back.

That’s where I’m at. I never thought about the ROI on it. I thought, “what is a better use of money while living in Buffalo?” The Bills are something that I spend my money on, and never regret it. My brother and I each have 2. I have a little boy on the way just after Thanksgiving and he had one born 4 weeks ago. We will be able to bring these little boys up like we were. 

[Einstein]

53 minutes ago, gmanbfan said:

My seats will be a 1k-1.5K PSL.  I sit in the upper corners, and I love it there. 

 

Each of those seats in the new stadium are going to be gobbled up, if not by actual season ticket members who attend games like myself, brokers will grab them.  The average ticket price for my seat is $80 a game, and the Bills are selling a seat right behind my row for the KC game for $356 dollars.  All I have to do this year is sell the BALT and KC game, this year, and my seasons are paid for, and I attend 7 games for nothing.  Sell a few more over the next 3 years, paid off PSLs.  

Honestly? I agree with ya.

1500 bucks is a day at Disney for a family of 4. That's worth it for 30 years of fun.

*ignoring ticket price raises of course

[WotAGuy]

1 hour ago, Einstein said:

Honestly? I agree with ya.

1500 bucks is a day at Disney for a family of 4. That's worth it for 30 years of fun.

*ignoring ticket price raises of course

It won’t be long before people will be saying “These season tix cost me more than my 30-year PSL!”

[PromoTheRobot]

3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

That’s where I’m at. I never thought about the ROI on it. I thought, “what is a better use of money while living in Buffalo?” The Bills are something that I spend my money on, and never regret it. My brother and I each have 2. I have a little boy on the way just after Thanksgiving and he had one born 4 weeks ago. We will be able to bring these little boys up like we were. 

 

I expected PSLs for at least 10 years and saved up for them. So it was money already earmarked.

[CoudyBills]

On 6/6/2025 at 7:40 AM, Slippery Rubber Mats said:

 

Wrong. If I invest my time in my kids, I'm not looking for profit I'm looking for their betterment. If I invest my heart into my marriage, I'm looking to better our relatinship.

 

But thanks for the 99% opinion Mr. Main Character. lol

 

Exactly. But trust him, he speaks for the 99%. He knows. He's Einstein LOL

 

 

 

He was literally speaking of finances.  You've completely jumped into the bushes.

[Slippery Rubber Mats]

On 6/8/2025 at 4:08 AM, CoudyBills said:

He was literally speaking of finances.  You've completely jumped into the bushes.

 

You're in the bushes

[CoudyBills]

On 6/9/2025 at 3:09 AM, Slippery Rubber Mats said:

 

You're in the bushes

In fact I was just yesterday in the bushes over Lahaina Town.  Good time.

[PromoTheRobot]

The $1,000 PSL has been released. They are in the upper deck corners. There are still many sections left and I wonder if we'll see PSLs fall to $750 or $500?

 

 

[boater]

1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

The $1,000 PSL has been released. They are in the upper deck corners. There are still many sections left and I wonder if we'll see PSLs fall to $750 or $500?

 

 

 

Tempting. Very, very tempting. The only hesitation comes from: I enjoy watching the games at home on TV.

[Kirby Jackson]

3 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

The $1,000 PSL has been released. They are in the upper deck corners. There are still many sections left and I wonder if we'll see PSLs fall to $750 or $500?

 

 

I always thought that they’d have PSLs under $1K because of the messaging. Basically they can say, “everyone can afford it” at that point. You have 10 years to pay off $1K. I would have thought that they would have said, early on, the lowest priced number that would be coming out. You do risk people waiting it out so I get it. It would have been a powerful message though to say, “PSLs will be as low as $500 a piece.” 
 

FWIW, there has been VERY little pushback to date on the pricing of the PSLs. There hasn’t been this giant line in the sand that some people predicted when this process started. It really never happens. Nobody “wants” to pay it but the overwhelming majority of people “will” do it. This is always the case but holds especially true with the timing of it for the Bills. This process, in 2014 or 2015, would have been WAY more difficult than it is now. They are so, so, so fortunate to have drafted Josh Allen. 

[SoCal Deek]

$2,000 spread over ten years works out to $20.00 per game, and less if it gives you access to other events. In ten years that’ll be chump change. Seems like a good price to guarantee a sideline spot under the roof. 

[jwhit34]

This was the first time I looked at the total chart. My seats are in the $8k section (Bills side). Overall, I think they did a pretty good job pricing the PSLs, they covered the spectrum very well and as mentioned by others there is a level that is accessible for a wide swath of fans.

 

I viewed the $8k/seat (I have 4) as not bad - amortized over the life of the PSL it is $267/season, which as it turns out is going to be just under the cost of a regular season ticket. I knew the game tickets were going to go up a lot and was more concerned about that. Mine are going from the current about $180 (I think, never know how to factor in the preseason games) to about $300, which is a huge jump - 8 regular season game cost per ticket up from about $1,440 to $2,400.

 

 

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

On 6/6/2025 at 11:30 AM, gmanbfan said:

So investments...

 

Let's say I get a pair of tickets for the new stadium with the intention of going to three games a year, and selling the other 5-6 games.  For those three years, I go to the games I want to, and use the profits from sales pay the ticket price for those games, and collect the extra profits pay off the PSL fee I incurred.  

 

Then after three years I sell the PSL rights to someone else who pays 25% more then what I paid (which is now all profit as I used sales of seats to pay off the PSLs)

 

I've watched bills games for free for three years, and made good coin selling off the psl's.  Sounds like an investment with added benifits to me.

 

And for those who say i'll just go to 2-3 games a year - FACE VALUE price on ticketmaster for the worst seat in the house for the KC game is $356.00.

 

I think it's a pretty decent investment as a bills fan.

That will never work. Lots of other teams have figured out this "season tickets holders selling tickets to recoup costs" scheme and the Bills will shut it down just like other teams have done.

 

They are your season tickets but you do not have the right to sell them.

 

Home teams are afraid of home games being filled with opposing fans like if the steelers came to town. 

 

Bottom line if you cant afford the tickets then don't buy them.

 

Here is an example of the Colts penalizing their season ticket holders for selling their season tickets 

 

 

[Just Jack]

2 hours ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

That will never work. Lots of other teams have figured out this "season tickets holders selling tickets to recoup costs" scheme and the Bills will shut it down just like other teams have done.

 

They are your season tickets but you do not have the right to sell them.

 

Home teams are afraid of home games being filled with opposing fans like if the steelers came to town. 

 

Bottom line if you cant afford the tickets then don't buy them.

 

Here is an example of the Colts penalizing their season ticket holders for selling their season tickets 

 

 

 

The Lions have also revoked season tickets...

 

Detroit Lions offer statement after revoking season tickets from reselling fans - Pride Of Detroit

[SoMAn]

On 6/6/2025 at 10:33 AM, Einstein said:

No it's not. 

An investment implies the earning of profit. 

Only if you’re strictly measuring in financial return.  A return on investment can also be measured in utility, value, and personal enjoyment.

To use a real property appraisal analogy, if you install an in ground pool in your backyard, is that an investment? Probably not unless there’s mass neighborhood conformity.
BUT, it is an investment in terms of your family’s use, enjoyment; and memories being created. 
Same principle for ‘investing’ in PSls and season tickets. There’s a return from the enjoyment.  

Edited 5 hours ago by SoMAn