Richard Noggin Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 2 hours ago, BillsDiehard said: 1M in cap space but managed to pull this off! With a long term extension, though, a team these days usually builds in cap SAVINGS in year one. Nothing particularly clever or surprising there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 (edited) 2 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: No idea how they “botched “ anything Last year Jones was willing to sign a contract that made him the 2nd highest paid DT in the league. Instead the Chiefs offered him an insulting (relative to his skill set) 3 year, $70M deal. This year they made him the highest paid DT of all time. When he was willing to settle for #2 paid in the league last year. In 8 months they went from offering him a deal worth a total of $70M to a deal where the guaranteed money alone is nearly 30% higher than that. KC rarely messes up. But they should have made him a fair offer last season and avoided this. They would have saved a good amount of money. That's good for us though. It’s obviously stinks they got him back, but it’s good that they paid more this year than they would have him if they just signed him last year. Edited March 10 by Einstein 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 12 minutes ago, Marlton Bills said: Hopefully it means they don’t get Austin Ekler Ekeler is going to a nursing home. Don’t worry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 11 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said: With a long term extension, though, a team these days usually builds in cap SAVINGS in year one. Nothing particularly clever or surprising there. He wasn’t under contract, so there is no way to build in cap savings in year 1. His cap hit was already $0 (because he wasn’t signed). Teams sometimes save money on extensions of players they have under contract by pushing the money out. But that wasn’t the case here. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 16 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said: With a long term extension, though, a team these days usually builds in cap SAVINGS in year one. Nothing particularly clever or surprising there. KC Kings are spending future money for they believe they are still in Superbowl window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Einstein said: Last year Jones was willing to sign a contract that made him the 2nd highest paid DT in the league. Instead the Chiefs offered him an insulting (relative to his skill set) 3 year, $70M deal. This year they made him the highest paid DT of all time. When he was willing to settle for #2 paid in the league last year. In 8 months they went from offering him a deal worth a total of $70M to a deal where the guaranteed money alone is nearly 30% higher than that. KC rarely messes up. But they should have made him a fair offer last season and avoided this. They would have saved a good amount of money. That's good for us though. It’s obviously stinks they got him back, but it’s good that they paid more this year than they would have him if they just signed him last year. Do you believe everything Mike Florio says ? Albert Breer said he wanted more money then Donald last year … so who do you believe ? Each side no doubt has their media stooges to leak whatever spin they want …so I don’t know why anyone would take these kind of articles with no direct quotes as gospel .. Regardless of which source you believe …They have re-signed him for 5 years …likely with an out after 3 ..I doubt they care much now what happened last year Edited March 10 by Aussie Joe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 39 minutes ago, Einstein said: He wasn’t under contract, so there is no way to build in cap savings in year 1. His cap hit was already $0 (because he wasn’t signed). Teams sometimes save money on extensions of players they have under contract by pushing the money out. But that wasn’t the case here. They have until Wednesday, in that case, to make it all fit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 2 hours ago, Adam727 said: 5 years $160mil is my guess. Good guess if you didn't see this report before hand. Travis Kelce is woefully underpaid but luckily he's dating a billionaire. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Here’s to hoping he Albert Haynesworth’s the Chiefs! 🤞 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 1 hour ago, Bruce200 said: The cap is a myth. Somehow the Bills have to cut half the team but the Chiefs can pay MaHomes, Jones, Kielce huge contracts among others and tag Sneed, There even looking at acquiring Espensa. The Jets paid huge contracts to Roger’s and Williams and many others and are looking at bringing in a bunch of starting OL. Maybe I’m jumping the gun and there is a good plan but for me the 2024 season might be already over. They've let guys who signed decent sized contracts walk the last few years (Tyreek Hill, Tyron Matheiu, JuJu, Frank Clark, Eric Fisher, Charvarius Ward, Orlando Brown). Their biggest whiff is pry Jawaan Taylor. Regardless, they set themselves up to have the cap room to sign him. Whether it's worth it to pay a soon to be 30 year old that much money remains to be seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 (edited) 4 hours ago, BillsDiehard said: 1M in cap space but managed to pull this off! Actually, they're 7.4m under and they'll get another 19.8m when they trade Snead, which is probably coming soon. Then they're 89.7m under next year. Edited March 10 by BillsFanForever19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 36 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Actually, they're 7.4m under and they'll get another 19.8m when they trade Snead, which is probably coming soon. Then they're 89.7m under next year. Always one step ahead… 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 It’s essentially a 3 year deal. But it’s well worth it. Dude is a beast . But hey we have Von right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 6 hours ago, JaCrispy said: Weak deal…should have gotten at least $30 mil per It says highest AAV for a Steve. 95M guaranteed is a huge number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Did anyone really expect him to go anywhere? I always knew he would be in KC for the foreseeable future. I think this pretty much is the extent of their FA though with the re-signing of Jones and Tranquil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 2 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Actually, they're 7.4m under and they'll get another 19.8m when they trade Snead, which is probably coming soon. Then they're 89.7m under next year. They still have some big name players coming up on FA. Nick Bolton, Creed Humphrey, and Trey Smith all due to be FA's next year. That $89M you're talking about is with them only having 24 players on their roster and it doesn't include the figures from Chris Jones' new contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 5 minutes ago, H2o said: They still have some big name players coming up on FA. Nick Bolton, Creed Humphrey, and Trey Smith all due to be FA's next year. That $89M you're talking about is with them only having 24 players on their roster and it doesn't include the figures from Chris Jones' new contract. They will have to make some concessions at some spots, probably starting with Snead this year. But the fact remains, they have it do it. It's not exactly "1m in cap space but managed to pull it off!" situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 I suggest that the other 31 teams send Jones gift cards for the place Reid gets his chicken nuggets. Then Jones shows up for training camp out of shape, overweight, and with high cholesterol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 (edited) 3 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Actually, they're 7.4m under and they'll get another 19.8m when they trade Snead, which is probably coming soon. Then they're 89.7m under next year. The 7.4 is without adding C Jones contract. That number next year will change significantly when C Jones contract is added. They also only have about 25 players singed next year. Edited March 10 by BillsFan2313 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beebe Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 (edited) 5 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Do you believe everything Mike Florio says ? Albert Breer said he wanted more money then Donald last year … so who do you believe ? Each side no doubt has their media stooges to leak whatever spin they want …so I don’t know why anyone would take these kind of articles with no direct quotes as gospel .. Regardless of which source you believe …They have re-signed him for 5 years …likely with an out after 3 ..I doubt they care much now what happened last year Agree. It was pretty well understood last year that Jones wanted pretty close to a 30 mill/year deal. The Chiefs weren't willing to go there at the time. A few things have changed since then: a) the salary cap increased beyond expectation, and could again in the next few years; b) tranquill ended up being better than expected, and KC now expects to let willie gay walk; c) every KC pick in the secondary, both CBs and safeties, has hit the last few years, making Sneed more expendable than most people realize; and d) chance for immortality to chase a 3peat. KC probably is spending about 3-4 mill per year more for Jones than they'd like the next three years, but being able to work out a 5-year deal, which I'd assume allows them to spread out the signing bonus, makes this more digestible for them. Edited March 10 by beebe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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