BuffaloBill Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 11 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: With the release of Bates, I'd add Morse to the restructure and extend list No to adding more to Morse - he is aging in NFL years and has a concussion history. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 11 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said: Bates traded 1.44 saved. Still 37+ million to go to get to cap compliance. Many moves to go and so little time. Allen alone is $20m+ of that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMaster Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 minute ago, BuffaloBill said: No to adding more to Morse - he is aging in NFL years and has a concussion history. His replacement will be drafted this upcoming draft so we can move off of him next season 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFan Posted March 5 Author Share Posted March 5 1 minute ago, BuffaloBill said: No to adding more to Morse - he is aging in NFL years and has a concussion history. The guy started all 17 this past year and has only missed 4 games in the last three. His grades for the season were good. No reason not to extend him with a non-guaranteed year or two to bring down the cap hit. 1 minute ago, BeastMaster said: His replacement will be drafted this upcoming draft so we can move off of him next season This is also possible even with an extension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 On 3/3/2024 at 4:42 PM, SoonerBillsFan said: I think 24 more will come from Allen's conversion of base salary to bonus. That's still 12+ mill needed, which is very doable. I would extend Allen. But that’s just me. QB contracts flying up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 The Bates move saves 5.4 million in 2025 which is also important. It is mostly cap neutral this year since the savings will be used on a different guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 This is very easy to do now with Josh restructuring and more then likely Ed Oliver and Dawkins we are pretty much cap compliant. I don’t know what the Bills want to do now since next year with Diggs and Millers deadcap hits going way lower and they can be back to being major players in free agency. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 On 3/3/2024 at 5:25 PM, Rubes said: For those of you that read the Buffalo News, there is a good article there today about the moves Beane could make to create up to $60 million in cap space. Pretty reasonable set of moves presented, nothing dramatic, and allows the team to stand pat on Diggs and Miller. If you have today's BN, check out page 4 where they mistakenly put a photo of Edward Snowden instead of Jack Teixeira. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Just now, 78thealltimegreat said: This is very easy to do now with Josh restructuring and more then likely Ed Oliver and Dawkins we are pretty much cap compliant. I don’t know what the Bills want to do now since next year with Diggs and Millers deadcap hits going way lower and they can be back to being major players in free agency. If you know you will have future cap space open up then you’re a free agent player now. Thats the great thing about the cap. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 2 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: The Bates move saves 5.4 million in 2025 which is also important. It is mostly cap neutral this year since the savings will be used on a different guy. Cover1/Locked On Bills speculates next year will be the ‘just eat it’ year where they don’t restructure his contract. Apparently we already have a good amount of cap room in 2025 with a relatively low amount of FAs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 hour ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Cover1/Locked On Bills speculates next year will be the ‘just eat it’ year where they don’t restructure his contract. Apparently we already have a good amount of cap room in 2025 with a relatively low amount of FAs. He wont be on the team, he will have no dead cap or anything? The Bills do not have a good amount of cap in 2025, the Bills are 29th with 27 mil in space but that is before they push a ton of money from this year to next year, that will be negative by the time they are done. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/2025/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 18 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: He wont be on the team, he will have no dead cap or anything? The Bills do not have a good amount of cap in 2025, the Bills are 29th with 27 mil in space but that is before they push a ton of money from this year to next year, that will be negative by the time they are done. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/2025/ I meant Josh Allen, totally messed that post up, my mistake!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 On 3/3/2024 at 4:42 PM, SoonerBillsFan said: I think 24 more will come from Allen's conversion of base salary to bonus. That's still 12+ mill needed, which is very doable. Diggs, too. As they've been saying he may not like it, but the Bills have the full power to convert it. What they might get from his I have no idea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 4 hours ago, BuffaloBill said: No to adding more to Morse - he is aging in NFL years and has a concussion history. So you're going to pay him $11 mil this year? When exactly did he have his last concussion? Believe he's been 2 seasons without one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 57 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: Diggs, too. As they've been saying he may not like it, but the Bills have the full power to convert it. What they might get from his I have no idea. I don't touch his contract so we can move on next year if need be. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 29 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: So you're going to pay him $11 mil this year? When exactly did he have his last concussion? Believe he's been 2 seasons without one. The basis for you even asking this question is that he was extended once before. The Bills need to stop kicking the can down the road on a 32 year old with a concussion history (no - it does not matter how long ago - whet does matter is his history of them). The Bills, having now traded Bates, are likely to draft his eventual replacement and pay him the $11mil this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 (edited) Josh's 24 million restructure is an easy one. They can cut Harty and have a few other restructures and extensions they can do. The key is can they get to 30-40ish million in space to where they can resign some of their own free agents and maybe add a mid-level Connor McGovern style piece? McBeane manages the roster well. The Bills are usually pretty low in dead cap and they don't carry many "Bad" contracts (the only outright bad contracts they have are Von and Knox and even Knox is not that terrible as while he is overpaid he does play a role well). Edited March 5 by billsfan89 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 (edited) 35 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: The basis for you even asking this question is that he was extended once before. The Bills need to stop kicking the can down the road on a 32 year old with a concussion history (no - it does not matter how long ago - whet does matter is his history of them). The Bills, having now traded Bates, are likely to draft his eventual replacement and pay him the $11mil this season. I'll be surprised if that happens considering the overall cap position they are in. My bet is an extension with void years. Initially I thought they may cut Morse and give the job to Bates, but that's not happening now. We shall see! Edited March 5 by Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 18 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said: Bates traded 1.44 saved. Still 37+ million to go to get to cap compliance. Many moves to go and so little time. I've seen several media folks break it down: Josh Allen's restructure is already written into his contract and an absolute guarantee at this point. That will clear over $23 million alone. Extending Dion Dawkins and Taron Johnson (both are free agents in 2024) also seem like no-brainer moves. Those would clear another $10 million plus. Make a decision about cornerback between Tre White and Rasul Douglas. Keep one. Cut one. And boom, we are back to a positive number. That's without putting a significant burden into future years, or making a significant cut from the roster. Depending on how active we choose to be in free agency, the Bills could clear an additional $30-40 million with additional restructures, cuts, extensions, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFan Posted March 5 Author Share Posted March 5 13 minutes ago, mjt328 said: I've seen several media folks break it down: Josh Allen's restructure is already written into his contract and an absolute guarantee at this point. That will clear over $23 million alone. Extending Dion Dawkins and Taron Johnson (both are free agents in 2024) also seem like no-brainer moves. Those would clear another $10 million plus. Make a decision about cornerback between Tre White and Rasul Douglas. Keep one. Cut one. And boom, we are back to a positive number. That's without putting a significant burden into future years, or making a significant cut from the roster. Depending on how active we choose to be in free agency, the Bills could clear an additional $30-40 million with additional restructures, cuts, extensions, etc. This is all great in theory, but until it’s done, it’s not done. Beane has until 4pm on March 13th to get his top 51 contracts under the 2024 cap. Even if he accomplishes that goal, he still needs to clear another 10-11 million to sign his draft picks and at least 20 mill more to complete his roster unless he chooses to just use draft picks and guys on futures/reserve deals as his depth next season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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