Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 2 Super Bowls in 4 years with 2 different teams. GOAT! 1 1 7 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 I came in the thread looking. For a reasonable sensible take on this... Disappointed. Mac Jones makes sense, though 1 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 1 minute ago, boyst said: Mac Jones makes sense, though lol. You trippin or what? Michael Macorkle Jones is the prissiest, most privileged southern frat boy to ever put a helmet on. Definitely not a good fit in Bills locker room. And seriously overrated. 2 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Applicable Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 22 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: 2 Super Bowls in 4 years with 2 different teams. GOAT! In all seriousness, he'd probably be the best backup we've had since Barkley 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 (edited) Spoiler alert: anyone we end up signing at Backup QB "sucks" If you're a decent to good QB on the market - you're either starting, going to a team as a Bridge QB or insurance to a young QB who's developing, going to a team that has a questionable starter, or going to a team with a QB who has injury issues. Having a QB that is unquestioned and *knock on wood* never comes off the field, our options are going to be... not so great. Edited February 14 by BillsFanForever19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 18 minutes ago, freddyjj said: lol. You trippin or what? Michael Macorkle Jones is the prissiest, most privileged southern frat boy to ever put a helmet on. Definitely not a good fit in Bills locker room. And seriously overrated. He is a semi mobile quarterback who will be in the League another 6 years 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 (edited) 1 hour ago, boyst said: He is a semi mobile quarterback who will be in the League another 6 years Mac Jones isn't going to be outright cut. They don't save anything by releasing him. If they don't get any offers for him, they'll keep him and he'll be a FA after this season. We're not paying 5m for 1 year on a backup QB period. Let alone giving up a pick to do so. No one's doing that unless they think it's possible they might be able to get something more out of him with a change of scenery, with the potential to start in the future. Even if he *were* to be outright cut (won't happen, but for arguments sake let's go with it) - he'd go somewhere with a questionable QB situation that would give him at least the chance to see the field. Long story short, Mac Jones isn't happening any way you slice it. Edited February 15 by BillsFanForever19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Gabbert or Jones, just say no to first round QB busts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 I misread the title and thought they did at first 🤦🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 8 minutes ago, SoTier said: Gabbert or Jones, just say no to first round QB busts. The thing about 1st Round QB "busts" is that they at least have traits or tools that made them a First Rounder. Blaine has stuck around the league for so long as a Backup QB because he at least brings something meaningful to the table. You aren't still playing at 34 if you provide absolutely nothing. As I said, when it comes to Backup QB's, if they're good - they'll either be starting or on a team that has a questionable QB situation. There isn't even 32 good starters in the NFL. Anyone we get to play Backup QB here isn't going to inspire anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 apparently he saved someone's life once by doing Heimlich or CPR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 2 hours ago, Patrick Fitzryan said: In all seriousness, he'd probably be the best backup we've had since Barkley Maybe - and it wouldn't mean a goddamn thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 23 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: The thing about 1st Round QB "busts" is that they at least have traits or tools that made them a First Rounder. Blaine has stuck around the league for so long as a Backup QB because he at least brings something meaningful to the table. You aren't still playing at 34 if you provide absolutely nothing. As I said, when it comes to Backup QB's, if they're good - they'll either be starting or on a team that has a questionable QB situation. There isn't even 32 good starters in the NFL. Anyone we get to play Backup QB here isn't going to inspire anyone. First round QBs who bust generally have the physical tools to be good NFL QBs but lack the " intangible" talents/skills that even adequate NFL QBs need to be successful. They frequently fail to make good decisions, process what they see fast enough, learn to read defenses etc. They keep getting chances, however, because they look so good in practice that coaches are convinced they can do the same for short stretches in real game time. Mitch Trubisky is a good example. So is Gabbert. Successful backup QBs tend to be less physically gifted but make up for that with being better with intangibles. Frequently, they learn the nuances of the game so that they know what to do in most situations. Just as frequently, though, they don't have quite the physical talent to play consistently. Some are good enough to even making low-end starters -- at least for a while. I think QBs like Case Keenum and Brian Hoyer are examples of this. The Bills don't need a backup QB to inspire anyone. They need a reasonably priced backup QB who can come into a game on short notice and not lose the game with stupid plays. I'm not sure that they will be able to find one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 31 minutes ago, SoTier said: First round QBs who bust generally have the physical tools to be good NFL QBs but lack the " intangible" talents/skills that even adequate NFL QBs need to be successful. They frequently fail to make good decisions, process what they see fast enough, learn to read defenses etc. They keep getting chances, however, because they look so good in practice that coaches are convinced they can do the same for short stretches in real game time. Mitch Trubisky is a good example. So is Gabbert. Successful backup QBs tend to be less physically gifted but make up for that with being better with intangibles. Frequently, they learn the nuances of the game so that they know what to do in most situations. Just as frequently, though, they don't have quite the physical talent to play consistently. Some are good enough to even making low-end starters -- at least for a while. I think QBs like Case Keenum and Brian Hoyer are examples of this. The Bills don't need a backup QB to inspire anyone. They need a reasonably priced backup QB who can come into a game on short notice and not lose the game with stupid plays. I'm not sure that they will be able to find one. I'm all for drafting one in the 3rd or 4th. In a draft like this where there isn't a major market for QBs or hot commodity potentials we can take a flier and find a 4 year backup for Josh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Seriously though, Blake Bortles. He’s basically just the 2nd year version of Josh, perfect back up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMaster Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 3 hours ago, boyst said: He is a semi mobile quarterback who will be in the League another 6 years Imagine Mac Jones having to cut through Orchard Park winds 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 4 hours ago, boyst said: I came in the thread looking. For a reasonable sensible take on this... Disappointed. Mac Jones makes sense, though I'd rather have Zach Wilson. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 14 hours ago, freddyjj said: lol. You trippin or what? Michael Macorkle Jones is the prissiest, most privileged southern frat boy to ever put a helmet on. Definitely not a good fit in Bills locker room. And seriously overrated. Yup, a snow flake if ever there was one, probably owns pearls…, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HankBulloughMellencamp Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 13 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: The thing about 1st Round QB "busts" is that they at least have traits or tools that made them a First Rounder. Anyone we get to play Backup QB here isn't going to inspire anyone. Which is why unless the Bills just extend Kyle A, I for one would gladly welcome Mitchell Trubisky back to the squad. He seemed to enjoy it here, and isn't going to command any compensatory picks or a salary anywhere near what Pittsburgh just paid him. He'll likely not get much interest elsewhere to come in and compete for a starting job. In theory, he could lay down some roots here as a backup. Barkley, Trubisky, Keenum, Kyle A, the Bills have shown they value having a veteran in that role. And he'd obviously be a good fit with Josh, has plenty of experience, has good mobility, get 'er done Beane! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 11 hours ago, DCofNC said: Seriously though, Blake Bortles. He’s basically just the 2nd year version of Josh, perfect back up. Think Bortles retired. Wentz would be comparable skill wise to Josh. He’s kind of an ass tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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