Bruffalo Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 4 hours ago, ALLEN1QB said: Unfortunately his last few plays on the final drive cost Buffalo a trip to the Superbowl. We would have easily destroyed Baltimore Defensive head coach who consistently allows 8+ yards per play in the playoffs with his horrific "bend but don't break" scheme that only works against average to horrible QBs. Allen has never been the problem in the playoffs. I'd argue that he's never been the problem with the Bills ever. He's the whole reason this coaching staff still has a job. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Bruffalo said: Defensive head coach who consistently allows 8+ yards per play in the playoffs with his horrific "bend but don't break" scheme that only works against average to horrible QBs. Allen has never been the problem in the playoffs. I'd argue that he's never been the problem with the Bills ever. He's the whole reason this coaching staff still has a job. Ok so you have no issue with Allen not throwing to a wide open Diggs for an easy first down?? He instead throws to the endzone with a severely underthrown pass. What was the hurry the goal was to consume clock score and leave KC very little time. How can anyone not see Allen screwed up?? The kid had one hell of a game but ***** the bed the last drive!! Edited January 29 by ALLEN1QB 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Just now, ALLEN1QB said: Ok so you have no issue with Allen not throwing to a wide open Diggs for an easy first down?? He instead throws to the endzone with a severely underthrown pass. What was the hurry the goal was to consume clock score and leave KC very little time. How can anyone not see Allen screwed up?? The kid had one hell of a game but ***** the bed at the last drive!! Everything you just typed out was emotional, not rational. It's easy to put the blame on a single focus point but it's also lazy. I get it, I'm mad the Bills didn't win too, but it wasn't an easy throw or a guaranteed first down to Diggs. It's a throw across his body and the middle of the field. The pass is only underthrown because he's bumped by Dawkins, who couldn't hold his block, not really on Allen again. A first down doesn't mean they score and win either, you need to take a clear open end zone shot when it's there. I'm not going to put the blame on Allen because the game isn't a single series, and it's foolish to pretend otherwise. We shouldn't have been in that situation if we were playing "complementary football" like McD preaches. McDermott's defense couldn't slow the Chiefs and wasn't doing their 1/3. Expecting a perfect game from any QB is a joke. Allen had 4 beautiful rainbow passes that were straight up dropped by WRs. If Allen has to play a perfect game for the Bills to win then the Bills just aren't going to win. It's as simple as that. That doesn't mean he's the problem though. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 8 minutes ago, Bruffalo said: Everything you just typed out was emotional, not rational. It's easy to put the blame on a single focus point but it's also lazy. I get it, I'm mad the Bills didn't win too, but it wasn't an easy throw or a guaranteed first down to Diggs. It's a throw across his body and the middle of the field. The pass is only underthrown because he's bumped by Dawkins, who couldn't hold his block, not really on Allen again. A first down doesn't mean they score and win either, you need to take a clear open end zone shot when it's there. I'm not going to put the blame on Allen because the game isn't a single series, and it's foolish to pretend otherwise. We shouldn't have been in that situation if we were playing "complementary football" like McD preaches. McDermott's defense couldn't slow the Chiefs and wasn't doing their 1/3. Expecting a perfect game from any QB is a joke. Allen had 4 beautiful rainbow passes that were straight up dropped by WRs. If Allen has to play a perfect game for the Bills to win then the Bills just aren't going to win. It's as simple as that. That doesn't mean he's the problem though. He's the best qb period IMO just frustrating that for whatever ever reason they swayed from the perfect game plan on the last drive. We will get them next year. Guess we have to root for the Niners lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 16 hours ago, Special K said: In 10 career playoff games, Josh Allen has: Passer rating of 100.0 64.6 completion percentage 2,723 yards passing, 21 touchdowns and 4 interceptions 563 rushing yards and 5 TD's That sounds like the stat line of a multiple Super Bowl Champion..............screw you, Kansas City!!! 7th best career passer rating 11th best completion percentage 24th best yards 18th TDs Tom Brady is first in career INTs at 40; Josh Allen is under 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90sBills Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Still seeing a lot of excuses and if’s for this team. All the fantasy hypotheticals like past KC they’d beat the Ravens etc. are meaningless compared to the reality of this team time and again not rise to the occasion of beating the teams that are in their way when it matters. Stop making excuses and demand more from the team. They failed once again plain and simple. The coaching staff failed. The players failed. That includes Allen. A little bit of situational awareness at the end from him and they might have beaten KC. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 10 hours ago, finn said: I didn't bother to extrapolate the interceptions, but it's yet another stat that indicates Allen and Mahomes are at least on par. I'm working on not letting the idiot narratives that Mahomes is unquestionably better, GOAT, the Messiah, etc., get to me. But he is unquestionably better. If they both retired today only 1 of them is going to the Hall of Fame in 5 years. Can you imagine if roles were reversed and Chiefs fans were telling you that Mahomes is better than a 2x MVP, 2x Super Bowl Champion 2x Super Bowl MVP Josh Allen? The game is about more than stats. Do you think Matt Ryan is better than John Elway because he has better stats? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finn Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, Chicken Boo said: But he is unquestionably better. If they both retired today only 1 of them is going to the Hall of Fame in 5 years. Can you imagine if roles were reversed and Chiefs fans were telling you that Mahomes is better than a 2x MVP, 2x Super Bowl Champion 2x Super Bowl MVP Josh Allen? The game is about more than stats. Do you think Matt Ryan is better than John Elway because he has better stats? Maybe a thought experiment would help convey my point: If Mahomes--the exact Mahomes who is revered today--were put on the worst team in the NFL and the team, not surprisingly, never made the playoffs, would he still be a HOF player? No way. But it's the same player! Football is a team sport, right? If the Bills had a better kicker, he might be playing Sunday instead of Mahomes. But he, too, would be the same player. So, no, Mahomes is not unquestionably better. He is arguably better. He is unquestionably on a better team. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 11 minutes ago, finn said: Maybe a thought experiment would help convey my point: If Mahomes--the exact Mahomes who is revered today--were put on the worst team in the NFL and the team, not surprisingly, never made the playoffs, would he still be a HOF player? No way. But it's the same player! Football is a team sport, right? If the Bills had a better kicker, he might be playing Sunday instead of Mahomes. But he, too, would be the same player. So, no, Mahomes is not unquestionably better. He is arguably better. He is unquestionably on a better team. The worst team in the league would be the Carolina Panthers. Mahomes with Thielen, Chark and Hubbard would have been battling for supremacy in the NFC South. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 14 hours ago, KDIGGZ said: Could Josh go down as the best playoff QB to never win a Superbowl? Who is his competition? Marino and Rivers come to mind. Usually if you are a great QB then you win a Superbowl. Usually if you are a great QB on a team with a top defense you are guaranteed to win the Superbowl. Bills are really working hard to go against the grain on this one. Yes, he very well might. Without a coaching change and new regime that knows how to harness Josh's powers, Josh will never win a SB. Hell, we have trouble appearing in a championship game, let alone winning it, let alone winning a SB. That's a lot of elite coaching and game planning needed to do that stuff against the best in the league. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 How many teams win the Super Bowl with JA17 as their QB? Pretend coaching doesn’t matter. Chiefs Ravens SF Lions Philadelphia Browns Steelers Panthers just kidding 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 15 hours ago, finn said: I didn't bother to extrapolate the interceptions, but it's yet another stat that indicates Allen and Mahomes are at least on par. I'm working on not letting the idiot narratives that Mahomes is unquestionably better, GOAT, the Messiah, etc., get to me. Nobody says Mahomes is unquestionably better than Allen. Everyone says Reid is unquestionably better than McDermott! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90sBills Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 15 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Nobody says Mahomes is unquestionably better than Allen. This is not true at all. Tune into any sports shows. It’s not even true among all Bills fans. Some of us can be objective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finn Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 9 hours ago, Chicken Boo said: The worst team in the league would be the Carolina Panthers. Mahomes with Thielen, Chark and Hubbard would have been battling for supremacy in the NFC South. That's not saying much. 6 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Nobody says Mahomes is unquestionably better than Allen. Everyone says Reid is unquestionably better than McDermott! Count me in both camps. I wonder if McDermott realizes he's just not in the front ranks of coaches. Pegula has to decide if it matter or not that he is. In short, is Allen good enough to overcome a middling head coach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 15 hours ago, ALLEN1QB said: He's the best qb period IMO just frustrating that for whatever ever reason they swayed from the perfect game plan on the last drive. We will get them next year. Guess we have to root for the Niners lol. For four straight post season exists now in the divisional/conference round the Bills had to have a near perfect offensive performance to win. That is the problem we should be focusing on, not one single play where it is debatable or not if Allen should have thrown to the wide-open receiver in the endzone or the wide-open receiver on the shallow crosser. Not guarantee the Bills get a TD on that drive still if he does dump it short. When winning requires AT LEAST 43, 39, 28 and 28 points every single time the Bills play the real competition in the post season, that's a problem. The Chiefs and Ravens just played a far from perfect offensive game on both sides and either team could have won with 20 points. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st pete gogolak Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Hate to say it, but I envision Josh winning a Super Bowl similar to Dominic Hasek’s Stanley Cup. One of the all time greats traded near the end of his career and winning it all with a new team. Hope to God it doesn’t work out that way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 On 1/29/2024 at 7:18 AM, extrahammer said: The biggest difference is Mahomes has true offensive experts around him and Josh does not. McD has to fill that gap at some point instead of running each rising OC off. We just lost to KC because KC averaged 7.7 yards per play. Yes, it would be great to improve the offense too, but ... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 On 1/29/2024 at 6:21 AM, JerseyBills said: We'd be going to the SB if not for drops n that miss to Shakir..We would've def beat Bal We'll win multiple rings with 17 wasnt a "miss", his Oline got pushed into him as he was throwing..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extrahammer Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said: We just lost to KC because KC averaged 7.7 yards per play. Yes, it would be great to improve the offense too, but ... It's hard for me to stress about that considering we were relying on our 3rd string defense for the most part. I'm a big believer in the 80/20 philosophy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man with No Name Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 11 minutes ago, extrahammer said: It's hard for me to stress about that considering we were relying on our 3rd string defense for the most part. I'm a big believer in the 80/20 philosophy. I agree with this to an extent. on the other hand, it's kind of the same picture we've been looking at for 5 years. And the Chiefs have not looked that good on offense against anyone else as of late. incredibly frustrating. we were missing the linebackers, but we had many of our capable players in the defensive backfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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