Tiberius Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 23 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: I bet you get your ass kicked a lot. Nope, wrong 24 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Actually buddy, im extremely intelligent. Oh? Sure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Nope, wrong Oh? Sure Well that’s me next to the aircraft. Highest scores needed for avionics. You lack substance to your argument, like most posters on here point out. You are pathetic; part of me feels sorry for trolls like you. You would never say this stuff to someones face; that’s a fact. Later douche. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) 20 hours ago, Doc said: He was talking about getting out of the ME and letting them blow each other up. Not isolating themselves from the entire world. I agree there's a lot of real estate to stake out strategy and policy between the choice of getting involved everywhere and isolationism. But that's the binary choice people making the argument for constant intervention and conflict attempt to present. They might want to consider by their standards perhaps the entire world minus 5 or 6 countries pursue a policy they might call isolationism. Edited January 30 by All_Pro_Bills 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 33 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Well that’s me next to the aircraft. Highest scores needed for avionics. You lack substance to your argument, like most posters on here point out. You are pathetic; part of me feels sorry for trolls like you. You would never say this stuff to someones face; that’s a fact. Later douche. Lol, ok. Another poster? Switch names? lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 It’s gonna be the worst hand slap they’ve ever known….. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 The real Conald Trump: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Trump doubles down on calling Hezbollah ‘very smart’ Also Hezbollah: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 …..we shall see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) 55 minutes ago, BillStime said: Trump doubles down on calling Hezbollah ‘very smart’ Also Hezbollah: Maybe they are smart? But assigning that attribute to your enemies should not be confused as an endorsement of them or of support for them. Its merely good business to understand your adversary and perform a realistic assessment of their capabilities. Anything short of dealing with the reality of your foes capabilities generally leads to getting your ass handed to you in any competition or conflict. Look no further for an example than how our current bumbling administration is handling everything. The Iranians know that no matter how much the war hawks hoot and holler Joe's crew won't do too much damage to them because anything impacting world oil prices will doom him to defeat in November. Edited January 31 by All_Pro_Bills 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Maybe they are smart? But assigning that attribute to your enemies should not be confused as an endorsement of them or of support for them. Its merely good business to understand your adversary and perform a realistic assessment of their capabilities. Anything short of dealing with the reality of your foes capabilities generally leads to getting your ass handed to you in any competition or conflict. Look no further for an example than how our current bumbling administration is handling everything. The Iranians know that no matter how much the war hawks hoot and holler Joe's crew won't do too much damage to them because anything impacting world oil prices will doom him to defeat in November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 It's interesting how media outside the us and EU are saying this strike was on an illegal base in Syria. Not Jordan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 I have no idea how this is a successful strategy. The strike occurs, the Americans are killed. The Administration should have responded immediately. It is impossible for me to think that target folders were not ready, and we have the assets in the area. Then we announce we are going to respond. Two days later we announce we have decided to respond. Meanwhile, the option to hide has been available for five days. The only logical explanation, and it is a major tactical error, is that we are aligning others to participate. I am reserving judgement, but this "response" in not easily explained. 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDD Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) So, B-1 bombers? Weigh in on that Sherpa. Combined with other assets? What are your thoughts? Edited February 2 by LDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 14 minutes ago, LDD said: So, B-1 bombers? Weigh in on that Sherpa. Combined with other assets? What are your thoughts? Nukes dropped from B-1 bombers - maybe. Much prefer cruise missiles. I think some indiscriminate strafing might help too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 11 minutes ago, LDD said: So, B-1 bombers from the continent? Weigh in on that Sherpa. Why not assets from carriers in the area or bases closer? It looks like a good number of targets at seven locations were targeted, so the operation probably included a number of our folks. Have to see the entire strike plan, but it seems like a "message" strike as much as a tactical operation. Not a fan. I hate it when it is obvious that a press release was prepared before an operation. Mentioning what targets were hit, how many precision guided weapons were used etc., are tell tale signs of political rather than tactical people behind it. This should have been done immediately, not after four days of press releases claiming we will respond, we have decided to etc. Too much time for the roaches to hide, limiting effectiveness. 7 minutes ago, Irv said: Nukes dropped from B-1 bombers - maybe. Much prefer cruise missiles. I think some indiscriminate strafing might help too. Cruise missiles are very expensive and not the weapon of choice in a low anti air threat. You can get much more damage done using conventionally delivered ordnance, and it's much cheaper. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 You hit us, you will pay. Big time No one wants an all out war, but Iran crossed a line and were hit because of it Cool, calculated response from American leadership 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 5 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Someone probably told him to leave his watch at home this time. Wouldn’t want that sort of embarrassment again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Interesting if true 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 48 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You hit us, you will pay. Big time No one wants an all out war, but Iran crossed a line and were hit because of it Cool, calculated response from American leadership Strongly disagree. No surprise there. By the way, for you and the other guy who has joined you in posts about Biden's actions re the three casualties and their remains. Remember the Navy Seal named Chambers, who was killed boarding a weapon delivering boat last month? The guy was from Maryland, I had dinner with my best buddy from AOCS last night. He was a F-14 RIO and he lives in Annapolis. They have a completely different view of how the Biden Admin handled his death. I don't get excited about this stuff, but it wasn't good. For what it's worth. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 6 minutes ago, sherpa said: Strongly disagree. No surprise there. By the way, for you and the other guy who has joined you in posts about Biden's actions re the three casualties and their remains. Remember the Navy Seal named Chambers, who was killed boarding a weapon delivering boat last month? The guy was from Maryland, I had dinner with my best buddy from AOCS last night. He was a F-14 RIO and he lives in Annapolis. They have a completely different view of how the Biden Admin handled his death. I don't get excited about this stuff, but it wasn't good. For what it's worth. So you are overly critical of the Biden administration, so what? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 6 minutes ago, Tiberius said: So you are overly critical of the Biden administration, so what? And you rhetorically polish Biden’s helmet 24/7. So what? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 hour ago, JDHillFan said: And you rhetorically polish Biden’s helmet 24/7. So what? He cups em too… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 (edited) 2 hours ago, JDHillFan said: And you rhetorically polish Biden’s helmet 24/7. So what? 1 hour ago, billsfan_34 said: He cups em too… Knobs Biden willfully. Did Demented Joke look at his watch again? Edited February 3 by Irv 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Forewarning retaliation, why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 2 hours ago, Irv said: Knobs Biden willfully. Did Demented Joke look at his watch again? Truly dedicated to his tradecraft. No need to; Uncle Creepy merely has to glance over to “Dr.” Jill or “the smartest guy I know” for ques. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 10 hours ago, US Egg said: Forewarning retaliation, why? Because they're in cahoots with them? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 14 hours ago, Tiberius said: So you are overly critical of the Biden administration, so what? I am critical of what appears to be a useless, expensive strike. Five and half days to move valuable people and items away. The usual response after an attack on US troops is the usual, "We will respond. We won't say how." No problem there. Then to state that we have "Decided to respond," and even more silly, two days later, "We have now decided how we are going to respond." When the action actually occurs, press releases detailing what was used, with clear attempts to show how we used x number of pgm's, which was clearly mentioned to demonstrate extreme care. The seemingly unnecessary use of long range strategic bombers? Why? The entire thing could have been done Tuesday, unless there was some element we have not been told. Obviously prepared press releases. The thing looked like they were waiting to build a PR stage prior to actually doing what needed to be done. We still have no reasonable explanation of how that drone got through. We have a Sec of Defense who goes down for a few days, tells nobody of import, turns over the lead to a vacationing assistant in Puerto Rico who has no idea what is going on and clearly lacks the material support to handle the job from there. Is this a confidence builder? It isn't to me. One last thing, related to you. You posted a link to a PAO release describing A-10 involvement. You prefaced it by stating it was "interesting if true." Why is that interesting? What was the point? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Nice run down of the B-1b here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phypon Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 6 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Nice run down of the B-1b here "WAR, YAR!" What is wrong with you?? I'm sure you watch Joy Reid. Did you see even her reaction to "another ***** war" off camera remark? This isn't a good thing, dude. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 50 minutes ago, sherpa said: I am critical of what appears to be a useless, expensive strike. Five and half days to move valuable people and items away. The usual response after an attack on US troops is the usual, "We will respond. We won't say how." No problem there. Then to state that we have "Decided to respond," and even more silly, two days later, "We have now decided how we are going to respond." When the action actually occurs, press releases detailing what was used, with clear attempts to show how we used x number of pgm's, which was clearly mentioned to demonstrate extreme care. The seemingly unnecessary use of long range strategic bombers? Why? The entire thing could have been done Tuesday, unless there was some element we have not been told. Obviously prepared press releases. The thing looked like they were waiting to build a PR stage prior to actually doing what needed to be done. We still have no reasonable explanation of how that drone got through. We have a Sec of Defense who goes down for a few days, tells nobody of import, turns over the lead to a vacationing assistant in Puerto Rico who has no idea what is going on and clearly lacks the material support to handle the job from there. Is this a confidence builder? It isn't to me. One last thing, related to you. You posted a link to a PAO release describing A-10 involvement. You prefaced it by stating it was "interesting if true." Why is that interesting? What was the point? Keep in mind that these are media quotes It’s not coming from the people that are actually doing the work 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 19 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Keep in mind that these are media quotes It’s not coming from the people that are actually doing the work Hey. It’s for you. Sand is on the phone. Wants you to remove your head. What a mess. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 37 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Keep in mind that these are media quotes It’s not coming from the people that are actually doing the work The information is coming from DOD. It is extremely scripted. It is absolutely not coming from the people who are "actually doing the work." 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 RETALIATION, BIDEN STYLE FTA: We can infer that the Biden administration believes in telegraphing its punches. Marc Thiessen poses a rhetorical question: “How stupid do you have to be to announce you will strike two days in advance and where[?]” It’s smart if you want to minimize the damage done (or to be done). The administration also believes in repetition. The statement attributed to Biden includes this variation of what has become an administration mantra: “The United States does not seek conflict in the Middle East or anywhere else in the world.” It reminds me of LBJ’s classic one-liner on Vietnam at the time of the Gulf of Tonkin incident: “We still seek no wider war.” Although the intent and the circumstances vary greatly, both statements carry the air of fiasco. https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2024/02/retaliation-biden-style.php 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 17 minutes ago, B-Man said: RETALIATION, BIDEN STYLE FTA: We can infer that the Biden administration believes in telegraphing its punches. Marc Thiessen poses a rhetorical question: “How stupid do you have to be to announce you will strike two days in advance and where[?]” It’s smart if you want to minimize the damage done (or to be done). The administration also believes in repetition. The statement attributed to Biden includes this variation of what has become an administration mantra: “The United States does not seek conflict in the Middle East or anywhere else in the world.” It reminds me of LBJ’s classic one-liner on Vietnam at the time of the Gulf of Tonkin incident: “We still seek no wider war.” Although the intent and the circumstances vary greatly, both statements carry the air of fiasco. https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2024/02/retaliation-biden-style.php Except that’s not what happened 22 minutes ago, sherpa said: The information is coming from DOD. It is extremely scripted. It is absolutely not coming from the people who are "actually doing the work." I know that’s what I just said 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 (edited) Last night 11:30, neither FOX nor CNN were reporting on the strike, which surprised me. Switched to MSNBC, they were covering it. They had on a Military analyst who gave fair, non biased, aspects. Drove the host nuts he wasn’t insisting Trump and Putin were the problem regarding the strike. She was absolutely unable to maintain her TDS, she kept interrupting him to assert this pertains to Putin and Trump more than anything. She was rude to him, felt sort of bad for the guy. Another example of how the Left will eat their own if they don’t conform to the script. Edited February 3 by US Egg 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 7 minutes ago, US Egg said: Last night 11:30, neither FOX nor CNN were reporting on the strike, which surprised me. Switched to MSNBC, they were covering it. They had on a Military analyst who gave fair, non biased, aspects. Drove the host nuts he wasn’t insisting Trump and Putin were the problem regarding the strike. She was absolutely unable to maintain her TDS, she kept interrupting him to assert this pertains to Putin and Trump more than anything. She was rude to him, felt sort of bad for the guy. Another example of how the Left will eat their own if they don’t conform to the script. Why exactly would Trump have anything to do with this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yall Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 16 hours ago, sherpa said: Strongly disagree. No surprise there. By the way, for you and the other guy who has joined you in posts about Biden's actions re the three casualties and their remains. Remember the Navy Seal named Chambers, who was killed boarding a weapon delivering boat last month? The guy was from Maryland, I had dinner with my best buddy from AOCS last night. He was a F-14 RIO and he lives in Annapolis. They have a completely different view of how the Biden Admin handled his death. I don't get excited about this stuff, but it wasn't good. For what it's worth. I'm curious what your friend didn't like? I've not talked to my Tampa buddies about this incident yet, but what was your friend expecting the administration to do differently regarding those guys getting lost at sea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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