ChrisWatson#21 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 I love Josh to death but why would he pass up a wide open Stef underneath, a possible first down to drain more clock to instead try and score a TD leaving 1:50 on the clock against a player that beat the Bills with only 13 seconds left? The goal was very simple here. It’s to score a TD with almost no time left especially when only a field goal is all the Bills need to extend the game so it wasn’t like the Bills needed a TD on that down. I know he doesn’t have a coach that will hold him accountable like Dabol would but we are on year six here where he should already know the situation. I love Josh we owe all these playoff years to him but I’m so dissapointed that he wouldn’t be able to dissect that situation for what it was. I can’t put that one on Sean as much as I have wanted him gone for a few years😭😭 6 1 2 13 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMaster Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 This will always be debated, and both sides have an argument. I am on the side that you take the touchdown if it's there. He just got knocked off his spot enough to alter the throw that he missed Who knows what happens if he takes Diggs underneath. We will never know 11 1 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Shakir was leading open when he made the decision. Anyone is taking the 6 in that moment. He got hit on the throw. Who’s to say the throw to Diggs also wouldn’t have been affected? 10 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Maybe because Diggs can’t be trusted to make a catch and Shakir was ballin, had Allen not been hit while releasing the ball it’s probably a TD. Having said that, obviously we all wish he had thrown it underneath. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 7 minutes ago, ChrisWatson#21 said: I love Josh to death but why would he pass up a wide open Stef underneath, a possible first down to drain more clock to instead try and score a TD leaving 1:50 on the clock against a player that beat the Bills with only 13 seconds left? The goal was very simple here. It’s to score a TD with almost no time left especially when only a field goal is all the Bills need to extend the game so it wasn’t like the Bills needed a TD on that down. I know he doesn’t have a coach that will hold him accountable like Dabol would but we are on year six here where he should already know the situation. I love Josh we owe all these playoff years to him but I’m so dissapointed that he wouldn’t be able to dissect that situation for what it was. I can’t put that one on Sean as much as I have wanted him gone for a few years😭😭 Because you never make assumptions that you will have another opportunity at a later time for a TD when it's available right now. Anything could have happened. A sack, tipped ball INT, a receiver fumbling the ball, etc... Playing like you "know" you can just score at some later time isn't a luxury you get in the NFL. 7 5 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Cheney Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 No guarantee Diggs would have caught it. Wouldn’t doubt it if Josh had that thought in the back of his mind. Diggs had one of the worst performances I’ve ever seen out of him. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Not enough Kincaid in this game. Not even close. 7 9 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Cheney Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 minutes ago, Bferra13 said: Not enough Kincaid in this game. Not even close. He played hard. Incredible awareness for a rookie. 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Going up 4 vs. 3 is an entirely different scenario. If I have no problem with taking a shot to a WIDE OPEN receiver in the end zone in this situation. Especially on 2nd down. people arguing the check down to Diggs are really arguing they want to milk the clock and settle for overtime. That’s the mentality. Milk the clock, play conservative and kick a 28 yard Fg after going ultra conservative in the red zone after picking up the first down to Diggs. so play for overtime. A loser mentality. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man with No Name Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 the 2nd and 9 play to shakir was the right call. he was open. the first down run was not the correct call. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Dick_Cheney said: No guarantee Diggs would have caught it. Wouldn’t doubt it if Josh had that thought in the back of his mind. Diggs had one of the worst performances I’ve ever seen out of him. Has Diggs ever shown up past the wildcard round for the Bills? 2023 - Divisional Round against KC: 3 catches on 8 targets for 21 yards. 2022 - Divisional Round against CIN: 4 catches on 10 targets for 35 yards. 2021 - Divisional Round against KC: 3 catches on 6 targets for 7 yards. 2020 - Divisional Round against BAL: 8 catches on 11 targets for 106 yards, 1 TD 2020 - AFC Champ Game against KC: 6 catches on 11 targets for 77 yards Seems the last 3 seasons outside the wildcard round he has pulled a disappearing act. I mean 10 catches on 24 targets with only 63 yards and 0 TDs? That is pretty abysmal for a #1 WR on a team that scores the way we do. Edited January 22 by Big Turk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 If you have a guy wide open for a TD you take it there is no debate Let's say Diggs takes it to the 10. Timeout Run, stopped Timeout Run, stopped Throw on third down, incomplete FG Chiefs still have over a minute left 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoteam Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 11 minutes ago, BeastMaster said: This will always be debated, and both sides have an argument. I am on the side that you take the touchdown if it's there. He just got knocked off his spot enough to alter the throw that he missed Who knows what happens if he takes Diggs underneath. We will never know Exactly. Just because Diggs catches it... Maybe Diggs fumbles and it's KC ball. Or Diggs is tackled for first down. Next snap, Josh drops back or just runs it and is tackled. Sustains a career ending injury or he scores a TD. No one knows what happens afterwords. It could have been the same outcome. A missed FG from closer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 minute ago, Man with No Name said: the 2nd and 9 play to shakir was the right call. he was open. the first down run was not the correct call. At least not from that formation it wasn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 It was the complete right throw. If Josh had half a second more to plant better that’s 6. Take it every time. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Going up 4 vs. 3 is an entirely different scenario. If I have no problem with taking a shot to a WIDE OPEN receiver in the end zone in this situation. Especially on 2nd down. people arguing the check down to Diggs are really arguing they want to milk the clock and settle for overtime. That’s the mentality. Milk the clock, play conservative and kick a 28 yard Fg after going ultra conservative in the red zone after picking up the first down to Diggs. so play for overtime. A loser mentality. No I am trying to get that first down and if it is close going for it on 4th down. If we were going to lose I rather ball be in Allen’s hands and taking my chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 I think it’s funny that people blame Josh for trying to hit an open receiver in the endzone. You score when you can. There are things called fumbles, interceptions and other bad things that can happen during a drive (sacks, penalties….). Scoring a TD is never a guarantee and it’s amazing that people think it is. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) 21 minutes ago, ChrisWatson#21 said: I love Josh to death but why would he pass up a wide open Stef underneath, a possible first down to drain more clock to instead try and score a TD leaving 1:50 on the clock against a player that beat the Bills with only 13 seconds left? The goal was very simple here. It’s to score a TD with almost no time left especially when only a field goal is all the Bills need to extend the game so it wasn’t like the Bills needed a TD on that down. I know he doesn’t have a coach that will hold him accountable like Dabol would but we are on year six here where he should already know the situation. I love Josh we owe all these playoff years to him but I’m so dissapointed that he wouldn’t be able to dissect that situation for what it was. I can’t put that one on Sean as much as I have wanted him gone for a few years😭😭 So he goes underneath and throws an inaccurate pass to Diggs because Jones pushed Dawkins into Allen. The results are the same aren’t they? Turns into 3rd and 9. You don’t pass up a TD when it’s there when you are playing from behind. He had it, protection never held up Edited January 22 by BananaB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 minutes ago, Process said: If you have a guy wide open for a TD you take it there is no debate Let's say Diggs takes it to the 10. Timeout Run, stopped Timeout Run, stopped Throw on third down, incomplete FG Chiefs still have over a minute left 10 years ago I agree with this.. Not sure now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 5 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Going up 4 vs. 3 is an entirely different scenario. If I have no problem with taking a shot to a WIDE OPEN receiver in the end zone in this situation. Especially on 2nd down. people arguing the check down to Diggs are really arguing they want to milk the clock and settle for overtime. That’s the mentality. Milk the clock, play conservative and kick a 28 yard Fg after going ultra conservative in the red zone after picking up the first down to Diggs. so play for overtime. A loser mentality. Milk the clock and score a TD is the only way I'm interpreting those that wanted the throw to Diggs. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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