QLBillsFan Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Yes in eras 15-20 years prior 5-10 .. he started about 77 or so. Joe Namath and Bradshaw have dreadful statistical data but in hall of fame. Again it’s been an evolution in what is now illegal in the NFL and the QBs are just better. Edited December 25, 2023 by QLBillsFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: So you actually think Theismann was a better QB than Williams? No idea. But his record was 77-47 and Williams was 38-42-1. That's not all on either of them but it would be hard to argue for Williams with that huge of a difference. Hard to argue someone is a "good" QB when they not only have an abysmal completion percentage compared to their era but also lost more games than they won. Edited December 26, 2023 by Big Turk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimmer323i Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Heitz said: Do people on this board not watch the NFL? I mean, teams get beat by lesser opponents literally every week. Ask the Chiefs, today. True that but dammit it just drives me nuts when we go up against inferior teams with back up quarter backs and struggle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimmer323i Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 After a couple of days reflecting on the game my consensus now is that we expanded all our energy pounding Dallas into the fen ground that we had just enough gas left in the tank to squeak past the Chargers…. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga boy Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, Bimmer323i said: After a couple of days reflecting on the game my consensus now is that we expanded all our energy pounding Dallas into the fen ground that we had just enough gas left in the tank to squeak past the Chargers…. Kinda agree but what caused those turnovers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 On 12/23/2023 at 11:35 PM, eSJayDee said: I was annoyed when the announcers mentioned that we only had 2 DL on the last play & we were using our best in Floyd & Miller. Really? I'd take Rousseau &/or Oliver over Miller any day of the week. I think it was actually Rousseau and Miller, if I remember correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimmer323i Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 33 minutes ago, Ga boy said: Kinda agree but what caused those turnovers? Just stupid sloppy play… We need to clean it up asap cause something tells me that pats game isn’t gonna be no picnic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 Look at today, 49ers have three turnovers in 22 minutes, trailing a team they have outgained 2-1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillenger4 Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 On 12/24/2023 at 10:28 AM, klos63 said: They flew for 5 hours... boy their arms must be tired. That's a piss poor excuse. Flying domestically shouldn't ever matter. It all adds up buddy. It's football. Clearly you never played. The travel, short week and long season surely take a toll on these guys. Get with it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 This was such a heads up play by Allen and Gabe they were completely on the same page finally, it just needed to be freestyle apparently. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Schick Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 Just rewatched last plays of the game. In real time I wondered how they managed to get 2 plays off after Oliver’s sack. Now I’m REALLY wondering… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 How’s everyone enjoying that Peacock subscription? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 14 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: How’s everyone enjoying that Peacock subscription? GONE GONE GONE Ok, technically I still have it, it's just set to expire in 10 days. And then a mysterious new email address will sign up for a trial if the Bills have to play another one. 16 minutes ago, Chuck Schick said: Just rewatched last plays of the game. In real time I wondered how they managed to get 2 plays off after Oliver’s sack. Now I’m REALLY wondering… I know that's not the official clock, but I was pissed at the time because I was sure the clock had run out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 3 hours ago, Dillenger4 said: It all adds up buddy. It's football. Clearly you never played. The travel, short week and long season surely take a toll on these guys. Get with it. Correct, I've never played in the NFL. I guess your nfl experience gives you insight that the rest of us don't have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KCNC Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 Rewatched game. If you get a chance, watch Von on the very last play of the game. I guarantee you I had more effort on my play with my gyrations during the play from my living room than he did as an active participant on the play. Wish we could dump him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 2 hours ago, KCNC said: Rewatched game. If you get a chance, watch Von on the very last play of the game. I guarantee you I had more effort on my play with my gyrations during the play from my living room than he did as an active participant on the play. Wish we could dump him. Von got paid. Von got hurt. Von is done. I appreciate Beane trying but we gotta get out of this contract asap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillenger4 Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 3 hours ago, klos63 said: Correct, I've never played in the NFL. I guess your nfl experience gives you insight that the rest of us don't have. I didn't say the NFL nancy - I said you never played football. From your response you sound like you still may be invested in playing marbles or sewing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFBillsfan Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 Spotting the Chargers 13 points off of self inflicted turnovers made this game far too competitive. It’s certainly frustrating that under McDermott we turn the ball over too much. Clean up the turnovers and this team dominates! Also after going up 21-13, they proceeded to give up three scoring drives in the 4th qtr that thankfully resulted in FG’s. They got outscored 9-3 in the 4th qtr which is unacceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Dillenger4 said: I didn't say the NFL nancy - I said you never played football. From your response you sound like you still may be invested in playing marbles or sewing. nancy? sewing?... the art of projection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 1 hour ago, TFBillsfan said: Spotting the Chargers 13 points off of self inflicted turnovers made this game far too competitive. It’s certainly frustrating that under McDermott we turn the ball over too much. Clean up the turnovers and this team dominates! Also after going up 21-13, they proceeded to give up three scoring drives in the 4th qtr that thankfully resulted in FG’s. They got outscored 9-3 in the 4th qtr which is unacceptable. One 'drive' began at our 32 and resulted in -4 yards for the Chargers. Another 'drive' began at our 48 and the chargers got 21 yards on 6 plays. Only 1 drive was started in Chargers territory. To say they gave up 3 scoring drives is a big stretch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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