BillsShredder83 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 23 minutes ago, Roundybout said: https://www.golongtd.com/p/the-mcdermott-problem-part-i-blame?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web A very long read, and the other parts are only for paid subscribers, but his sources paint a picture of McD as a narcissistic control freak who won’t take accountability for anything. Do with this what you will. how long is the read? its $8 to sub, i have no interest in anything else, so it'll basically be an $8 article. things are tight over here lol im fine spending it if its a good read, lengthy, in depth, the 25 interviews pulled my interest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Posters like me have been taking flak from this board for years when we criticized McDermott. Our only hope is just like Manning, Allen overcomes his moron HC. Dungy was a terrible coach that lucked into a top 4 QB of all time and still almost managed to never win a SuperBowl. He should be in the Hall of Shame not the HOF. Let's hope Pegula looks back and sees what Tampa did to win a SuperBowl after years of Dungy failures. 8 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 10 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Hahahahahahhaa When players were upset by this edict, center Mitch Morse actually drew a Jordan logo on one of his sharkskin cowboy boots... 1 4 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yall Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 12 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Hahahahahahhaa That is so absurd. It can't be true right? Because if it is.... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Simon said: When players were upset by this edict, center Mitch Morse actually drew a Jordan logo on one of his sharkskin cowboy boots... In sorry but that whole thing sounds like a complete lie. McD wanted his OL to wear work boots instead of Jordan’s during a walk through? What? 2 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 10 minutes ago, Arkady Renko said: We say that but he brings up Brady and lets Brady have Allen run more. We have seen all of two games. Let's hope that McD saw "some" light. Sunday will tell us more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 20 minutes ago, Roundybout said: https://www.golongtd.com/p/the-mcdermott-problem-part-i-blame?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web A very long read, and the other parts are only for paid subscribers, but his sources paint a picture of McD as a narcissistic control freak who won’t take accountability for anything. Do with this what you will. Is anyone shocked? He came to Buffalo trumpeting a "physical run game" to play in "snowy weather". He'll tell you himself that he's seen it all, done it all, thought of everything, knows what it is supposed to look like, in his same low-volume, generic platitude, monotone style. The team is managed exactly like a Defensive Coordinator as Head Coach would be - picks and resources devoted to the defense, a franchise QB given one big time weapon and a cast of low round misfits (Allen said it again yesterday referencing how Buffalo feels like Wyoming - literally yesterday). It's clear that we have peaked with him as a Coach, but Buffalo is going to hold onto 2017 and breaking The Drought. All I can hope as a fan is that the Bills add more brainpower to the offensive coaching staff to compete with the other best coaches in the world, and Allen stays motivated to stay in Buffalo because he is fond of reminding everyone how small and uninteresting the city is in every interview he gives. Terry loves him, calls him a faith based leader. All we can do is pray for offensive investment. 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 minute ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: In sorry but that whole thing sounds like a complete lie. McD wanted his OL to wear work boots instead of Jordan’s during a walk through? What? Could have just been a joke and a joke in response. Players have wanted to stay in Buffalo. Surprising if their coach is such a terrible boss. 2 2 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Let me be the naysayer who gets smacked around for a divergent view... I like Dunne. And he says he talked to 25 people for this article. That's an impressive number. But I wonder who he talked to and which ones he quoted? Coaches who were fired? Players who were cut? It would be nice if he sought out a random sample. Both McD detractors and fans. But he seemingly didn't do that. I'm not arguing McD is perfect and doesn't do any wrong. I just don't think Dunne's article is the final word. We've heard a lot of players talk about how much they love the culture of the Bills. Things aren't all bad. 5 4 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Is anyone shocked? He came to Buffalo trumpeting a "physical run game" to play in "snowy weather". He'll tell you himself that he's seen it all, done it all, thought of everything, knows what it is supposed to look like, in his same low-volume, generic platitude, monotone style. The team is managed exactly like a Defensive Coordinator as Head Coach would be - picks and resources devoted to the defense, a franchise QB given one big time weapon and a cast of low round misfits (Allen said it again yesterday referencing how Buffalo feels like Wyoming - literally yesterday). It's clear that we have peaked with him as a Coach, but Buffalo is going to hold onto 2017 and breaking The Drought. All I can hope as a fan is that the Bills add more brainpower to the offensive coaching staff to compete with the other best coaches in the world, and Allen stays motivated to stay in Buffalo because he is fond of reminding everyone how small and uninteresting the city is in every interview he gives. Terry loves him, calls him a faith based leader. All we can do is pray for offensive investment. I think there is a very good chance 2024 is his last season. It’s being played off as not a possibility, but him being fired if we miss the playoffs is very real IMO. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 18 minutes ago, DanInUticaTampa said: I think we can all agree that heath farell is one of the sources which makes me take some w/ a grain of salt, salty fired guy... while im sure he has valid insights, he DEFFFF deserved firing. so, take it with a grain of salt on both sides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Posters like me have been taking flak from this board for years when we criticized McDermott. Our only hope is just like Manning, Allen overcomes his moron HC. Dungy was a terrible coach that lucked into a top 4 QB of all time and still almost managed to never win a SuperBowl. He should be in the Hall of Shame not the HOF. Let's hope Pegula looks back and sees what Tampa did to win a SuperBowl after years of Dungy failures. Look at the bright side...... We're taking less flak now.....🤣😉 The real sad part is we all want the Bills to overcome McD and win the SB this year. Reading just the introduction, I'm now wavering on that. No wonder I feel miserable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted December 7, 2023 Author Share Posted December 7, 2023 A lot of these quotes do sound like sources who were fired and are still jaded. 4 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 minute ago, hondo in seattle said: Let me be the naysayer who gets smacked around for a divergent view... I like Dunne. And he says he talked to 25 people for this article. That's an impressive number. But I wonder who he talked to and which ones he quoted? Coaches who were fired? Players who were cut? It would be nice if he sought out a random sample. Both McD detractors and fans. But he seemingly didn't do that. I'm not arguing McD is perfect and doesn't do any wrong. I just don't think Dunne's article is the final word. We've heard a lot of players talk about how much they love the culture of the Bills. Things aren't all bad. Exactly! This just feels like a guy who had an agenda, and sought out sources and quotes to fit the narrative he was trying to make. A positive McD piece would have got 30 clicks, zero discussion. A negative piece will get hundreds. 10 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted December 7, 2023 Author Share Posted December 7, 2023 9 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: how long is the read? its $8 to sub, i have no interest in anything else, so it'll basically be an $8 article. things are tight over here lol im fine spending it if its a good read, lengthy, in depth, the 25 interviews pulled my interest Three good long articles. I don’t have a subscription either, so I’m going what a lot of Bills fans screenshot for Twitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: A lot of these quotes do sound like sources who were fired and are still jaded. Like the sources that say there is "No way he is fired" are his "friends" and need him to keep their jobs? 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 33 minutes ago, Roundybout said: https://www.golongtd.com/p/the-mcdermott-problem-part-i-blame?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web A very long read, and the other parts are only for paid subscribers, but his sources paint a picture of McD as a narcissistic control freak who won’t take accountability for anything. Do with this what you will. This is one of those articles that ultimately does absolutely nothing to move the needle for anyone. Those that don't like McDermott will take the majority of this as fact because it "proves" their own thoughts and provides them a piece of that oh so comforting "echo chamber" Those that like McDermott will be quick to brush it off as gossip from players/coaches who have clashed with McDermott or feel they have been wronged and have an axe to grind. 1 2 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 13 minutes ago, boyst said: Let journalists learn to code Paywall fixed. 10 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: how long is the read? its $8 to sub, i have no interest in anything else, so it'll basically be an $8 article. things are tight over here lol im fine spending it if its a good read, lengthy, in depth, the 25 interviews pulled my interest See my quote above 6 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: In sorry but that whole thing sounds like a complete lie. McD wanted his OL to wear work boots instead of Jordan’s during a walk through? What? That is a very specific lie. Lies in stories are either completely fabricated or too specific with a manufactured backstory. That passes my sniff test of truth but the accuracy could always be off - as a joke. McChump could have said in a joking manner that his OL needs to be tough and not wearing Jordans. They should be wearing cowboy boots, and carharrts, and drive f650's, and dip Redman... All in a analogic metaphor. 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 If I was a reporter who wanted to write a negative article about a HC, I'd do the following: * Interview every coach and player who I suspect has a negative opinion of the coach. * Include all the worst comments in the article. * Include a couple of positive observations in the piece just to make it seem like I'm fair and balanced. * Imply that the negative sentiments represent a consensus even when they don't. I'm not sure Dunne did all this. But I don't know that he didn't. I'm hoping that Terry spends enough time with the team to have a true understanding of what the coaches and players think of McD and how he actually operates. If Dunne is, in fact, giving a fair portrait of the man, he deserves to be fired. I'm just not confident that he is. 1 6 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 17 minutes ago, Simon said: When players were upset by this edict, center Mitch Morse actually drew a Jordan logo on one of his sharkskin cowboy boots... #bootgate 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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