Julio Hopkins Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 minute ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: So by that logic the only franchises in the NFL “committed to winning” would be KC. Got it. If you ignore heading in the right direction? Still no, because McVay, Sirianni, Shanahan, Carroll, Harbaugh, and Taylor have been to the SB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernieBill Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Whether he is going to get fired or not, the question is whether he should be and the answer is unequivocally yes. He is a horrible game manager. That in and of itself, regardless of whatever so-called positives he brings to the table, should be enough at this point to get the guy fired before Josh Allen's entire prime is totally wasted. Whatever some billionaire owner with zero accountability to the public is actually going to do is beside the point ... great, the billionaire owners don't care enough about winning at the highest level, cool. Sean McDermott is not a championship level coach ... so enjoy having him around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Who do we have as options? Act like you knew who Mike McDaniel was before the Dolphins hired him 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 11 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Again not saying he doesn’t need to be canned if we miss the playoffs. I’m trying to point out his shortcomings are common and the 2024 coaching pool looks thin. Giving Beane/McD one more season and hire a new HC/GM in 2025 may be a better longterm move. Josh doesn't need to waste another season of his career on this staff. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullim4 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 I have thought this for a while now. I'm in the camp that McD's time here is done, but I also don't think Terry Pegula is going to do it. Terry has had a terrible track record of hiring coaches for the Sabres. McDermott turned the franchise around. Unlike us, I don't think Terry's goal is "Super Bowl or Bust" - I think his goal is to be competitive for the division and win a playoff game or two. McD can do that. If they must keep McD... then what I would like to see: - New defensive coordinator - Someone like Ernie Adams running gameday decision making. McD crumbles under pressure, he needs someone in the booth making the fourth down calls, challenges, etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Just now, SoonerBillsFan said: Josh doesn't need to waste another season of his career on this staff. Who’s the replacement? Fire him is easy, who’s out there this summer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 "When asked about Ryan and Whaley’s job security, Pegula was emphatic in his response that both were safe: 'We just hired the guys! Doug’s (Whaley) a new GM basically (promoted in May 2013). And we just hired Rex (Ryan). We’re talking about continuity, and the players need that,” Pegula said. “Our coach needs to know that, through the good and the bad, there’s stability. The players need to know there’s stability. And by the way, that doesn’t help our players any to start reading that their coach is going to get fired.' ” “You have to have continuity,” Pegula told USA TODAY Sports during the NFL meetings this week. “I don’t care if you’re drilling oil in gas wells or you’re running a sports team. If you keep changing things, nothing’s going to work.” McD might as well list his house right now...he's been given the Pegula vote of confidence/(kiss of death). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
<bills4life> Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 31 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: And you realize, then, that the only coaching answers are AR and BB? Because they’ve been the only coaches to consistently get there? I get McD isn’t perfect, and may never win a SB even with an elite QB. Shoot, it may take lighting in a bottle to get one, but fans complaints also explain 99% of the coaches out there. I get we likely need to move on, but this mindset that he is easily replaceable is baffling to me. As evident to…? I distinctly remember a coach named marv levy getting to afc championships and superbowls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Act like you knew who Mike McDaniel was before the Dolphins hired him Act like MM has done jack ***** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, sullim4 said: I have thought this for a while now. I'm in the camp that McD's time here is done, but I also don't think Terry Pegula is going to do it. Terry has had a terrible track record of hiring coaches for the Sabres. McDermott turned the franchise around. Unlike us, I don't think Terry's goal is "Super Bowl or Bust" - I think his goal is to be competitive for the division and win a playoff game or two. McD can do that. If they must keep McD... then what I would like to see: - New defensive coordinator - Someone like Ernie Adams running gameday decision making. McD crumbles under pressure, he needs someone in the booth making the fourth down calls, challenges, etc. They already have Marc Lubick who runs game management Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, JohnNord said: It’s not working for a 6-5 Houston Texans led by a former DC from San Fran Let's give it a couple of years okay? Like Allen, Stroud may be so good he can hide some of the issues with having a defensive minded coach. Or maybe the former D coordinator for SF spent enough time with Shannahan to have some of that magic rub off. But I stand by my opinion here: * McD is not right for the job because defensive minded coaches will waste the talents of elite QB's * The Bills organization, led by McD/Bean has not properly invested in the offense while over investing in the defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Just now, TheyCallMeAndy said: Act like MM has done jack ***** 😂😂😂And McDermott's done so much more foh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 hour ago, JayBaller10 said: From an article in the Athletic: Welp. Sources close to T Pegula speak He is either fired on Black Monday or you all enjoy. I’m out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Just now, GoBills808 said: 😂😂😂And McDermott's done so much more foh He’s best MM every time but the heat stroke game. Dolphins haven’t beat a team with a winning record since that game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UmbrellaMan Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 McD got a team with Tyrod Taylor as the starting QB to the playoffs. Tyrod…Taylor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: He’s best MM every time but the heat stroke game. Dolphins haven’t beat a team with a winning record since that game. How many teams w winning records have we beat this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Fired or not fired, I just pray that those of you that think every bounce of the football is McD's fault (with zero actual evidence or correlation) get fed up and either stop making every single one of your posts about it or find another team to root for. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Four separate sources talked? To “The Athletic?” Again, I’m supposed to believe four people who are close enough to Terry Pegula to know this info all decided to talk anonymously to the ***** Athletic? Anyone else having a problem with that? 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 In McDermott we trust… he will be head coach in 2024. Maybe longer 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 We have one of the oldest rosters in the league with little supporting cast around Allen and no space to do it. It makes some sense to let this regime get through that lull and give somebody else the keys with some more room to operate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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