DapperCam Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: Does McDermott report to beane? I've always thought they both report to pegula and ard on equal ground Beane can stay in my opinion Take a look at singletary and moss, both below average to bad players here. They move to other teams and start performing like solid players It’s possible that the coaching has failed to develop and use what he’s brought in, but his track record doesn’t look great in hindsight. A lot of draft busts, a lot of bad/failed FA signings. I’m not even talking about Miller which has failed pretty bad (but that was a calculated risk and we got burned). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stonada Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Josh looks so checked out, we’re seeing what McD can do without an all-world QB. Mediocre or worse results. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Ray Stonada said: Josh looks so checked out, we’re seeing what McD can do without an all-world QB. Mediocre or worse results. Nothing will happen. Allen doesn’t have the guts to go to Pegula and tell him to move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Just now, Araiza Curse said: Nothing will happen. Allen doesn’t have the guts to go to Pegula and tell him to move on. Allen doesn't but I bet von miller does and maybe together they will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Beane isn't firing him. They are a package deal. Beane goes with him Where Beane has this roster, that wouldnt bother me at all. 30 million over the cap, 3 DL signed to the roster next season. Will need a starting FS, If Gabe goes your WRs are Diggs, Harty, Shakir and Shorter---good luck with that. I you cut Morse now you need a C, if you cut Tre or Poyer, now its a CB and SS. Maybe mastermind can restructure Von again and keep trading picks to move up 2 spots or turning 2nd round picks into 5ths and 6ths. About every one of Beane's picks next year are going to have to make the roster. McD and Dorsey get plenty of crap on this board, lets not leave Beane out of the mix, its well deserved. Edited November 14, 2023 by billsfan714 typo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Just now, Cheektowaga Chad said: Allen doesn't but I bet von miller does and maybe together they will Nothing is going to happen. I’m already prepared to not watch next season if changes aren’t made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag20 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 34 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Beane isn't firing him. They are a package deal. Beane goes with him Yeah, there’s no divorce, it’s a murder-suicide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, DapperCam said: It’s possible that the coaching has failed to develop and use what he’s brought in, but his track record doesn’t look great in hindsight. A lot of draft busts, a lot of bad/failed FA signings. I’m not even talking about Miller which has failed pretty bad (but that was a calculated risk and we got burned). I won't beat the drum to keep him as what you bring up is all very valid but do think he is generally solid and listens and organizes the team well and appears to be very respected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag20 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 15 minutes ago, DuckyBoys said: you are still kind of? Tonight was final straw Billionaires can sacrifice millions like most people can survive parking tickets 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, Araiza Curse said: Nothing is going to happen. I’m already prepared to not watch next season if changes aren’t made. I'm in the same boat, at this moment if McDermott is back I don't know if I am back to the extent I am currently (ie season ticket holder) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Threw zero excuse for that. There was plenty of time left they should of been ready for that scenario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 2-5 in 1 score games what is the turnover margin in those games? -10 or -14? Hard to win when the offense is playing against its own defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 11 minutes ago, Araiza Curse said: Nothing is going to happen. I’m already prepared to not watch next season if changes aren’t made. 7 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: I'm in the same boat, at this moment if McDermott is back I don't know if I am back to the extent I am currently (ie season ticket holder) The shock value of a loss like tonight will prove to be a blessing if it contributes to regime change (meaning McDermott gone). I have a feeling this season will now start to come off the rails completely, and that this IS not as bad as its going to get. That's all a blessing too. Our worst fear here (as fans) should be Pegula being slow to realize the scope of the fix, and dragging the McDermott era out another 2-3 years. That will destroy Josh's career. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 20 minutes ago, Ray Stonada said: Josh looks so checked out He really does. There is zero evidence of the fire he used to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: The shock value of a loss like tonight will prove to be a blessing if it contributes to regime change (meaning McDermott gone). I have a feeling this season will now start to come off the rails completely, and that this IS not as bad as its going to get. That's all a blessing too. Our worst fear here (as fans) should be Pegula being slow to realize the scope of the fix, and dragging the McDermott era out another 2-3 years. That will destroy Josh's career. I firmly believe that Pegula doesn’t have what it takes. I see it with the Sabres. I fully expect McD to be here for years to come. I just can’t deal with that right now. Deflated is the best I can describe it, full knowing that we are wasting Allen. It’s a crime. And I can’t watch next year or any year until McD is gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 17 minutes ago, billsfan714 said: Where Beane has this roster, that wouldnt bother me at all. 30 million over the cap, 3 DL signed to the roster next season. Will need a starting FS, If Gabe goes your WRs are Diggs, Harty, Shakir and Shorter---good luck with that. I you cut Morse now you need a C, if you cut Tre or Poyer, now its a CB and SS. Maybe mastermind can restructure Von again and keep trading picks to move up 2 spots or turning 2nd round picks into 5ths and 6ths. About every one of Beane's picks next year are going to have to make the roster. McD and Dorsey get plenty of crap on this board, lets not leave Beane out of the mix, its well deserved. Roster is in trouble next year. I could see Gabe, Morse, Hyde, Poyer, and Tre White all gone. Phillips, Lawson, AJ Epenesa I think are FA. Von Miller is totally ineffective right now to the point where he isn’t even making tackles. Who knows how he’ll be next year. And we’re already going to be over the cap. Missing a bunch of starters we need to replace. Hate to say it, but it might be a “re-tool” year to eat some dead cap and hope for the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mailman Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 26 minutes ago, Zag20 said: Yeah, there’s no divorce, it’s a murder-suicide McD doesn't report to Beane. They both report to Terry Pegula. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 16 minutes ago, Einstein said: He really does. There is zero evidence of the fire he used to have. I've scoffed at the idea that Josh is 'checked out' or whatever, but I thought his lack of enthusiasm after the go-ahead TD with 1:55 left was extremely telling. Maybe he was trying to not show any emotion after the taunting penalty last week. Maybe during the 2 minute warning McD told the offense to not score on the first play and to burn more time off the clock. Maybe he's shell-shocked from the number of times he's scored a late go-ahead TD and still lost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Imagine if McDermott cuts Damar Hamlin over this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 2 hours ago, WinterSoldier17 said: He’d never do that. It’s just easier scamming the Pegulas and fan base for more dough and empty speeches. I do agree it’s extremely comical at this point, and I can’t believe I’m saying this…worse than before. Incredible feat. The ultimate blockhead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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