McDermott answers why we stopped uptempo offense

[JTown]

2 hours ago, Toledo Bill said:

The players are going to quit on this guy.

Unbelievable.

I think many have. Namely Josh.  I am certain that Diggs is extremely unhappy and I have a hard time believing that only a few people who still have things to prove will give 100 % going forward.  Why would any player risk career ending injuries for this s#!t show.   I would not be surprised if they lose to Denver.  If the do, and I was Pegula, I would have McClappy escorted to the door.

[Old Coot]

You guys calling for Dorsey and / or McD to be fired do realize that's initially a step back.

 

Why? Because a new OC will bring in his own system with different theories and play calling names. That means Josh (and other) need to learn a new system. How many times have you heard of a highly touted QB not performing up to expectations because he's had X number of OCs.  Why does a new OC bring his own system? Because his job depends on the O's performance so he wants to use a system he knows like the back of his hand. It's an extraordinary (and an experienced) OC who is a master of several O systems.

 

If you bring in a new HC its the same situation only worse. The HC's job depends on the team being successful so the HC will want both O & D systems he knows well.

 

This is, I think, why most newly hired HC's OC's and DC's bring in their own system and remake the roster in their images rather than using a system designed to fit the roster.

[AlfaBill]

18 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

 

Great, then we can be the Philip Rivers Chargers! Yaaaay! 

 

What a joke. 

So you’re saying we can’t get a better coach than  McD? I dont know either way, but we can all agree it seems as though he is coming to his apex. 

[DrDawkinstein]

1 minute ago, JTown said:

I think many have. Namely Josh.  I am certain that Diggs is extremely unhappy and I have a hard time believing that only a few people who still have things to prove will give 100 % going forward.  Why would any player risk career ending injuries for this s#!t show.   I would not be surprised if they lose to Denver.  If the do, and I was Pegula, I would have McClappy escorted to the door.

 

Glad you mentioned this. Lost in all this talk is the funny observation: Diggs was right all along.

 

He showed up to camp, heard the BS out of McD and Dorsey, and knew exactly how it was going to go.

 

Sorry, Stef.

 

[Joe Ferguson]

McWimpy is not only stupid but an arrogant lunatic. He's going to use his old style, boring and wimpy 1975 football down our throats even if it means losing the rest of the games. Just to prove his arrogant way is right. Bills win games despite of McWimpy and lose games because of him.

Edited November 7, 2023 by Joe Ferguson

[Bruffalo]

9 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

 

I simply refuse to fire the coach with a 72-43 record and three-straight division titles because we're 5-4. It's madness. 

I’ll settle for getting rid of Dorsey, for the time being. 

[Big Blitz]

6 minutes ago, Old Coot said:

You guys calling for Dorsey and / or McD to be fired do realize that's initially a step back.

 

Why? Because a new OC will bring in his own system with different theories and play calling names. That means Josh (and other) need to learn a new system. How many times have you heard of a highly touted QB not performing up to expectations because he's had X number of OCs.  Why does a new OC bring his own system? Because his job depends on the O's performance so he wants to use a system he knows like the back of his hand. It's an extraordinary (and an experienced) OC who is a master of several O systems.

 

If you bring in a new HC its the same situation only worse. The HC's job depends on the team being successful so the HC will want both O & D systems he knows well.

 

This is, I think, why most newly hired HC's OC's and DC's bring in their own system and remake the roster in their images rather than using a system designed to fit the roster.

 

Like Tua?
 

Like Lamar?

 

Like Dak?

 

Like Hurts?

 

Like Herbert?

 

Like Cousins?

 

Like Goff?

 

Like Sam Howell or any Commanders QB?  

 

Edited November 7, 2023 by Big Blitz

[Since1981]

We may be learning what bothered Stef after all bengals playoff game. Broncos loss, then HC doesn’t make it to Thanksgiving and/or Diggs calls in sick. 

[Bruffalo]

6 minutes ago, Old Coot said:

You guys calling for Dorsey and / or McD to be fired do realize that's initially a step back.

 

Why? Because a new OC will bring in his own system with different theories and play calling names. That means Josh (and other) need to learn a new system. How many times have you heard of a highly touted QB not performing up to expectations because he's had X number of OCs.  Why does a new OC bring his own system? Because his job depends on the O's performance so he wants to use a system he knows like the back of his hand. It's an extraordinary (and an experienced) OC who is a master of several O systems.

 

If you bring in a new HC its the same situation only worse. The HC's job depends on the team being successful so the HC will want both O & D systems he knows well.

 

This is, I think, why most newly hired HC's OC's and DC's bring in their own system and remake the roster in their images rather than using a system designed to fit the roster.

If the current scheme and playcalling is holding the team back, like many of us believe, then bringing in anyone regardless of the learning curve would probably be a net positive. 

[Simon]

15 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

So we'll never make another coaching hire again. Got it. 🙄

 

C'mon man, you know I didn't say or even imply that.

If McDermott was genuinely awful or had been for years, then of course you cut bait and let Pegula hire anew.

But he's not awful and has been successful sine he's got here.

I don't want to see perfect become the enemy of good when the downside is arguably greater than the upside 

 

15 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

No, I dont necessarily trust Pegula to nail it. But I think he has a better shot of making a decent hire by taking the advice of both the consulting firm he used to find McDermott, AND having Beane involved in the search, than McD has in guiding this team to a Super Bowl victory.

 

You want to use the same consulting service to hire the new coach that you used to hire the coach you're now firing for cause?

There's something in there that doesn't smell right.

 

Some mostly irrelevant Insider info: You know who in the organization was selling McDermott hard and was primarily responsible for his hiring?

Doug Whaley was the one who talked Pegula into hiring him. 🤯

[Roundybout]

11 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

 

 

So tell me - why does he need to stay? Give us all a compelling from 13 seconds to now, why he should stay...

 

 

It's not just Dorsey with Allen twisted up. It really feels like McD is twisting it up as well

 

Because he's 71-44 (second best in Bills history), has won us 3 straight division titles after 17 years of nothing, has fourth stringers forcing big defensive stops, and dragged this team back from watching their teammate die on the field. 

 

Half the league would love to have him. 

12 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

 

Good news. You arent involved at all. And thank goodness since you just said you wanted the Bills to lose the Super Bowl.

 

 

 

I will root for McD to shove it in ungrateful Bills fans' faces, yes. 

[Coach Tuesday]

Just now, Simon said:

 

C'mon man, you know I didn't say or even imply that.

If McDermott was genuinely awful or had been for years, then of course you cut bait and let Pegula hire anew.

But he's not awful and has been successful sine he's got here.

I don't want to see perfect become the enemy of good when the downside is arguably greater than the upside 

 

 

You want to use the same consulting service to hire the new coach that you used to hire the coach you're now firing for cause?

There's something in there that doesn't smell right.

 

Some mostly irrelevant Insider info: You know who in the organization was selling McDermott hard and was primarily responsible for his hiring? Doug Whaley was the one who talked Pegula into hiring him. 🤯

I don’t trust Terry making decisions either.  Look at what he has done to the Sabres.  He cannot pick executives to save his life.  But this is starting to seem inevitable - this regime is backsliding and McD seems to be out of answers for it.

[ALLinALLEN]

12 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

 

I simply refuse to fire the coach with a 72-43 record and three-straight division titles because we're 5-4. It's madness. 

It’s wildly concerning to me that mcdermott watched the way the last two seasons ended and thought “we need to be more balanced instead of out scoring teams”. That’s incredibly lazy of him. 

[Old Coot]

Just now, Bruffalo said:

If the current scheme and playcalling is holding the team back, like many of us believe, then bringing in anyone regardless of the learning curve would probably be a net positive.

I don't necessarily disagree with you but consider the possibility that a new hire could be a net negative.

 

It would be interesting to know what percentage of coaching changes are net positives and what percentage are new negatives.

[Roundybout]

2 minutes ago, Bruffalo said:

If the current scheme and playcalling is holding the team back, like many of us believe, then bringing in anyone regardless of the learning curve would probably be a net positive. 

 

Like replacing Lindy Ruff with Ron Rolston?

[Reed83HOF]

1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said:

I don’t trust Terry making decisions either.  Look at what he has done to the Sabres.  He cannot pick executives to save his life.  But this is starting to seem inevitable - this regime is backsliding and McD seems to be out of answers for it.

I mean if the HC reported to the GM instead of the owner....

[Since1981]

2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

This is, I think, why most newly hired HC's OC's and DC's bring in their own system and remake the roster in their images rather than using a system designed to fit the roster.

Quality HC and OC flex to the assets on hand!!! Changing players to scheme is brain dead OC. 

 

I give total credit to McD for D flexibility after injuries. HUGE credit.
 

However, he and Dorsey are incapable of doing the same adaptation in O

[Bruffalo]

Just now, Roundybout said:

 

Like replacing Lindy Ruff with Ron Rolston?

I’m talking about the OC, but sure. It’s a risk

 

1 minute ago, Old Coot said:

I don't necessarily disagree with you but consider the possibility that a new hire could be a net negative.

 

It would be interesting to know what percentage of coaching changes are net positives and what percentage are new negatives.

It’s a gamble, but if they just plug in Joe Brady or one of the other former OCs on the coaching staff I don’t think it would be as disruptive as you’re making it out to be. 
 

Dorsey has been flat out bad. Something’s got to give.

[Old Coot]

1 minute ago, Bruffalo said:

It’s a gamble, but if they just plug in Joe Brady or one of the other former OCs on the coaching staff I don’t think it would be as disruptive as you’re making it out to be. 

Good point

[Low Positive]

The tweets that you’re all ranting about is not what McDermott said and was also taken out of context. But hey, never let facts get in the way of a good rant.

Edited November 7, 2023 by FrenchConnection