HomeskillitMoorman Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: Do you remember what it was like before him? You wanna go back? I'm willing to risk getting worse if it means we have the chance to get better. Which with an elite talent at QB, we absolutely do. I'm also wiling to take that risk when we know we will never win it all with this current head coach. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Just now, HomeskillitMoorman said: I'm willing to risk getting worse if it means we have the chance to get better. Which with an elite talent at QB, we absolutely do. I'm also wiling to take that risk when we know we will never win it all with this current head coach. Im not. I’m not wasting more of Allen’s career gambling that some guy Kyle Shanahan breathed on once is gonna be some kind of offensive savior. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: McD is not above throwing someone under the bus. See 13 seconds. He's not some honorable leader that took the fall. He basically told us it was someone else's fault for not relaying what he supposedly wanted, if we believe that. I'm not sure I do, but either way he did throw the old ST coach under the bus to everyone. Do you think he interfered with Dorsey's strategy and wanted to slow the offense down and run clock? Edited November 7, 2023 by EasternOHBillsFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: McD is not above throwing someone under the bus. See 13 seconds. He's not some honorable leader that took the fall. He basically told us it was someone else's fault for not relaying what he supposedly wanted, if we believe that. I'm not sure I do, but either way he did throw the old ST coach under the bus to everyone. Do you have this article where he is throwing guys under the bus? I'd like to see those because that definitely doesn't seem like his style imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Do you remember what it was like before him? You wanna go back? Why would you conclude that McD is the only HC who could keep this team from “going back”? this should be good… Edited November 7, 2023 by Mr. WEO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Just now, Roundybout said: Great! Blow it all up! Let’s waste MORE of Josh Allen! Hell, trade him and grab Crybaby the Clown outta USC! We’re 2 years late but it’s gotta be done. Hiring Dennison and then Frazier should’ve been huge red flags that these guys are totally lightweights. Let’s salvage what’s left of Josh, if he will stay, which is doubtful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Im not. I’m not wasting more of Allen’s career gambling that some guy Kyle Shanahan breathed on once is gonna be some kind of offensive savior. OK, then you're getting what you want right now. Enjoy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Just now, Governor said: We’re 2 years late but it’s gotta be done. Hiring Dennison and then Frazier should’ve been huge red flags that these guys are totally lightweights. Let’s salvage what’s left of Josh, if he will stay, which is doubtful. He won’t and you can enjoy us trotting out some journeyman while we convince ourselves that ground n pound is gonna get us a ring. Like I said, if we fire McD I hope to god he wins the Super Bowl the very next season. 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Why would you conclude that McD is the only HC who could keep this team from “going back”? this should be good… For every Siriani, there are a dozen mediocre pieces of garbage at head coach. I refuse to fire a proven winner just to hire Joe Judge/Arthur Smith/Pat Schurmer/Freddie Kitchens… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: Do you think he interfered with Dorsey's strategy and wanted to slow the offense down and run clock? Either that or he let Dorsey do it himself and didn't interject. I don't even care which one it was to be honest, I don't see how either of those doesn't fall on the Head Coach ultimately. It's the same way I felt when people would say Frazier's defense was too soft. I completely agreed...but in the end that problem is on the Head Coach. He isn't just a helpless, innocent bystander. He's the Head Coach for a reason and he's showing us he can't handle the responsibility especially when he has a struggling coordinator. We've seen it multiple times now and it's even worse when it's not on "his" side of the ball. That tells you he's not cut out to be a Head Coach, at least not a championship caliber one. Edited November 7, 2023 by HomeskillitMoorman 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauleeeWalnuts Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 He just proved what we all suspected, he’s in way over his head. Without Frazier and Daboll’s experience, it’s even more evident now that he’s on an island 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Roundybout said: He won’t and you can enjoy us trotting out some journeyman while we convince ourselves that ground n pound is gonna get us a ring. Like I said, if we fire McD I hope to god he wins the Super Bowl the very next season. For every Siriani, there are a dozen mediocre pieces of garbage at head coach. I refuse to fire a proven winner just to hire Joe Judge/Arthur Smith/Pat Schurmer/Freddie Kitchens… We’re about to finish 7-9. That’s a 6 game slide from last year. I don’t like 7-9. Do you like 7-9? 7-10…same thing. Edited November 7, 2023 by Governor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Just now, Governor said: We’re about to finish 7-9. That’s a 6 game slide from last year. I don’t like 7-9. Do you like 7-9? We might also finish 13-4. Who knows? That’s why you don’t do this bull#### unless it’s a Josh McDaniels situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmel Corn Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Roundybout said: He won’t and you can enjoy us trotting out some journeyman while we convince ourselves that ground n pound is gonna get us a ring. Like I said, if we fire McD I hope to god he wins the Super Bowl the very next season. For every Siriani, there are a dozen mediocre pieces of garbage at head coach. I refuse to fire a proven winner just to hire Joe Judge/Arthur Smith/Pat Schurmer/Freddie Kitchens… Even if that proven winner has hit his ceiling and is falling back to the floor? Would you hang on to Billy if you were a Pats fan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Warcodered said: Does he just not have permission to fire his OC so he's wording his way around it? Because this doesn't exactly match up. He had all night to think of an answer to this question and this is what he came up with 🤣 I think he wanted to control the time of possession to reduce stress on his gimpy defense. That doesn’t work if you can’t move the ball and you are punting anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Carmel Corn said: Even if that proven winner has hit his ceiling and is falling back to the floor? Would you hang on to Billy if you were a Pats fan? If he had an actual GM making personal decisions yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmel Corn Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 minute ago, DapperCam said: He had all night to think of an answer to this question and this is what he came up with 🤣 I think he wanted to control the time of possession to reduce stress on his gimpy defense. That doesn’t work if you can’t move the ball and you are punting anyway. Might be a pattern here....he had 10 DAYS to prepare for the Bengals and we saw last night what they had to show for the extra prep time. 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: If he had an actual GM making personal decisions yes I was referring to "coach" not GM, but it still begs the question of WHO in the Bill's organization is making the personnel decisions like drafting and FA signings. Somebody is failing there, just don't know if it is Beane or McD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juno999 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Terry Pegula is not going to fire McD. Even if they go 5 - 12 this season. I could see McD firing Dorsey but only after the season. McD isn't a quitter and he knows firing Dorsey in season will cause more distractions and create chaos. He just won't do it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 15 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: You think this the mark of a good head coach, a guy who didn't ask his OC until after the game why he stopped doing something that worked??? McDermott is not just a defensive coordinator, he is the Head Coach. This idea you guys have that the head coach is an innocent bystander and has no ability to interject during the game and be part of the overall philosophy is either dumb or some kind of apologetics propaganda for McDermott. Again, it's the same nonsense people would do when Frazier was here. "It's not McDermott's fault, he doesn't run the defense!" As if there is absolutely nothing he can do if he sees things he doesn't like. It's on McD if something happens that doesn't make sense to him and he doesn't do anything to interject or make a change. This is his team, it's not Dorsey's. If he can't handle it, which he very clearly can't, he needs to go. Not just Dorsey, that doesn't solve the biggest problem. You are again choosing to interpret pointing out that it was a Dorsey answer he was relating as some sort of defense of McD. But I haven’t defended McD at all and said feel free to be mad at him for any other reasons. Personally I think Dorsey is going to be McDs downfall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, juno999 said: Terry Pegula is not going to fire McD. Even if they go 5 - 12 this season. I could see McD firing Dorsey but only after the season. McD isn't a quitter and he knows firing Dorsey in season will cause more distractions and create chaos. He just won't do it. I hate that I agree with you. If I was betting on it I would bet Dorsey sticks around the season, even though it’s clear things aren’t working. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 hour ago, starrymessenger said: So Shaun why did you get away from the up tempo no huddle offense? Shaun: "Sole secure methoda per decevoir natura is for a strong guy to continuo continuo continuo jusqu'al plaisir brimps, et alors a l'ultima instanta switchers a l'altra gropa". Thanks Shaun. Would work better if you spelled his name right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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