HopefulFuture Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 I've watched these past 4 years, the window isn't closing, it's closed. Allen isn't the answer. Good QB, but he can't win the clutch games. Oh I know fans will throw a multitude of excuses....coaching, personnel, and each have merit on their own right. Beans and McD need to go, so does Allen. Let Diggs go to. Get what you can in trade value. That should be solid building blocks if the right management team and coaching staff are assembled. Many will hate this opinion, but if your not accepting the reality of the current situation, then your living your Bills Fandom in la la land. The current organizational make up, from management and coaching to roster personnel is not taking this team anywhere. I know, hate it, hate me and a growing number that share this opinion, but it won't change the reality on the ground. This team is going nowhere, and the past 4+ years outcomes project this. The time for denial is over. It's time to move on to acceptance. 1 9 6 10 5 11 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Sure eff it why not 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 I sure hate to read what @DismalFuture has to say 😶 4 17 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 I bet you're awesome in a foxhole. 2 14 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Allen IS the answer. McDermott is not 12 8 3 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 minute ago, HopefulFuture said: I've watched these past 4 years, the window isn't closing, it's closed. Allen isn't the answer. Good QB, but he can't win the clutch games. Oh I know fans will throw a multitude of excuses....coaching, personnel, and each have merit on their own right. Beans and McD need to go, so does Allen. Let Diggs go to. Get what you can in trade value. That should be solid building blocks if the right management team and coaching staff are assembled. Many will hate this opinion, but if your not accepting the reality of the current situation, then your living your Bills Fandom in la la land. The current organizational make up, from management and coaching to roster personnel is not taking this team anywhere. I know, hate it, hate me and a growing number that share this opinion, but it won't change the reality on the ground. This team is going nowhere, and the past 4+ years outcomes project this. The time for denial is over. It's time to move on to acceptance. I like your confidence in starting this thread. Will you still be around here, even though the window is closed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverboat Ritchie Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Family and I are huge Allen fans. Great person…ya da ya da…he is not a smart QB and has trouble reading defenses. He has been regressing since 13 seconds. When we look back on Allen era, one of worst moves was listening to Allen and hiring his buddy as an OC. 3 1 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 minute ago, strive_for_five_guy said: I like your confidence in starting this thread. Will you still be around here, even though the window is closed? 150 posts in 10 years … of course he will be 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 It’s all a mess right now. This team is two lucky plays away from being 3-6. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Riverboat Ritchie said: Family and I are huge Allen fans. Great person…ya da ya da…he is not a smart QB and has trouble reading defenses. He has been regressing since 13 seconds. When we look back on Allen era, one of worst moves was listening to Allen and hiring his buddy as an OC. This is a point I have raised several times … Edit ..: the point about Josh “hiring his buddy” Edited November 6, 2023 by Aussie Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) OP is quite extreme, but I do think this regime is sputtering out. Lots of tough personnel decisions in a pseudo rebuild this winter. I’d prefer Beane wasn’t making those decisions but something tells me Pegula will bring everyone back. Allen isn’t going anywhere obviously. Edited November 6, 2023 by Airseven 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Ballin Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 OP is correct about McD and Ken Dorsey need to get fired. But the rest of OP's thoughts? I humbly disagree. New coach and new OC gotta come in. Need new defensive coordinator, too. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopefulFuture Posted November 6, 2023 Author Share Posted November 6, 2023 Just now, strive_for_five_guy said: I like your confidence in starting this thread. Will you still be around here, even though the window is closed? I've been around for years. I don't post much. I do when I have something to say. I read it daily. There's not anything more for me to add. I've watched every game of the current staff and qb Era, it's not a pretty picture if a championship is the goal. Just my view based on performance in those 4+ years. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murdox Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, HopefulFuture said: I've watched these past 4 years, the window isn't closing, it's closed. Allen isn't the answer. Good QB, but he can't win the clutch games. Oh I know fans will throw a multitude of excuses....coaching, personnel, and each have merit on their own right. Beans and McD need to go, so does Allen. Let Diggs go to. Get what you can in trade value. That should be solid building blocks if the right management team and coaching staff are assembled. Many will hate this opinion, but if your not accepting the reality of the current situation, then your living your Bills Fandom in la la land. The current organizational make up, from management and coaching to roster personnel is not taking this team anywhere. I know, hate it, hate me and a growing number that share this opinion, but it won't change the reality on the ground. This team is going nowhere, and the past 4+ years outcomes project this. The time for denial is over. It's time to move on to acceptance. You do realize how hard it is to find a QB as good as Josh? Have you been watching the Bills for the last 23 years? You try to improve the team around Josh. Von has not worked out this year, the defense has a bunch of season ending injuries, the playcalling has been bad, and we don't have a #2 WR who can beat man coverage well. Davis is good against zones. You make changes and draft correctly next year. Edited November 6, 2023 by Murdox 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: This is a point I have raised several times … I’m trying to blame it on Hollywood - money, celebrity girlfriend, golf tourney’s, etc. All I know is despite the “numbers” he does not look right. It feels like he or the entire team is not as prepared. I don’t know. It always looks worse when it’s not working. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 8 minutes ago, HopefulFuture said: I've been around for years. I don't post much. I do when I have something to say. I read it daily. There's not anything more for me to add. I've watched every game of the current staff and qb Era, it's not a pretty picture if a championship is the goal. Just my view based on performance in those 4+ years. So much for a hopeful future 😝. Man, that was probably our toughest game all regular season. We’re 5-4 now, and time will tell, but I think we’re gonna make a run still. 2 1 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Just now, ngbills said: I’m trying to blame it on Hollywood - money, celebrity girlfriend, golf tourney’s, etc. All I know is despite the “numbers” he does not look right. It feels like he or the entire team is not as prepared. I don’t know. It always looks worse when it’s not working. they don’t have the positive energy and passion. I think it’s lack of belief in the staff. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murdox Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Riverboat Ritchie said: Family and I are huge Allen fans. Great person…ya da ya da…he is not a smart QB and has trouble reading defenses. He has been regressing since 13 seconds. When we look back on Allen era, one of worst moves was listening to Allen and hiring his buddy as an OC. Yeah, it's not a strength of his, but it doesn't help that our WRs outside of Diggs can't really beat man coverage. Teams can play Tampa 2 against us and it severely limits us. Look at the depth on that Bengals receiving group - we would love to have that. Frankly, I thought he made some good reads as well tonight - reading the D on that Diggs TD pass was brilliant. Edited November 6, 2023 by Murdox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 I think they'll win the next two games and be 7-4, but of course then it's Eagles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 18 minutes ago, HopefulFuture said: I've watched these past 4 years, the window isn't closing, it's closed. Allen isn't the answer. Good QB, but he can't win the clutch games. Oh I know fans will throw a multitude of excuses....coaching, personnel, and each have merit on their own right. Beans and McD need to go, so does Allen. Let Diggs go to. Get what you can in trade value. That should be solid building blocks if the right management team and coaching staff are assembled. Many will hate this opinion, but if your not accepting the reality of the current situation, then your living your Bills Fandom in la la land. The current organizational make up, from management and coaching to roster personnel is not taking this team anywhere. I know, hate it, hate me and a growing number that share this opinion, but it won't change the reality on the ground. This team is going nowhere, and the past 4+ years outcomes project this. The time for denial is over. It's time to move on to acceptance. Get a life 1 1 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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