Alphadawg7 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 I just hope Jaylon doesn't kill his own trade value by demanding a ridiculous contract as there is some chatter coming out of the trade talks that the contract he is seeking is "out of line" high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, Alphadawg7 said: I just hope Jaylon doesn't kill his own trade value by demanding a ridiculous contract as there is some chatter coming out of the trade talks that the contract he is seeking is "out of line" high. And I guarantee it was a team that leaked that to the media 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 we suck at 2nd rounders so trade it! lol 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Big Turk said: Out of all the positions the Bills could have drafted in the first round with McD's history of getting good CB play from literally street FA's, Tre being his first pick ever and turning into an all-pro at the position and McD basically being a DB whisperer, if you would have told me they were going to take a CB in the first round and he would never see the field for them in his 2nd year, espeically when a 6th round CB in the SAME draft IS starting, I would have told you that you were smoking something. Either Elam is really not very good or they have horribly mismanaged him in ways they haven't with any other DB they have ever had. The Bills took a gamble with with Elam because they painted themselves into a corner with that one glaring need and KC jumped us for the guy we wanted - Trent McDuffie (at least I am convinced of that). While Elam was considered a 1st round prospect by some (a minority), many others had him rated lower or much lower. For every plus in his game there was a negative or question. Sticky in man, but very grabby. Physical with WRs, but a reluctant/soft tackler. Good length and a fast 40, but doesn't show that speed on the field and lacks lateral agility. Even the best GMs miss on 1st round picks, but I hated seeing us locked into that position going into the draft. That was an avoidable mistake. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rm -rf /* Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 8 minutes ago, rm -rf /* said: Probably bs but the account did call the sweat trade. Bueller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 hour ago, stinky finger said: True - but he’s 24. Isn’t his ascension just natural with age? It is what you hope to see, but it doesn't always happen that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkirk Donski Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, BarleyNY said: The Bills took a gamble with with Elam because they painted themselves into a corner with that one glaring need and KC jumped us for the guy we wanted - Trent McDuffie (at least I am convinced of that). While Elam was considered a 1st round prospect by some (a minority), many others had him rated lower or much lower. For every plus in his game there was a negative or question. Sticky in man, but very grabby. Physical with WRs, but a reluctant/soft tackler. Good length and a fast 40, but doesn't show that speed on the field and lacks lateral agility. Even the best GMs miss on 1st round picks, but I hated seeing us locked into that position going into the draft. That was an avoidable mistake. Please make it stop... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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EasternOHBillsFan Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, rm -rf /* said: Bueller Mueller 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, SCBills said: Levi Wallace is posting eyeball emojis in his IG story And honestly Wallace would be a nice addition for depth and not cost a whole lot. Johnson is clearly the better player but adding a start able option in case Dane or Benford get hurt is not a bad move at all. Johnson would obviously be better but it’s not a bad move to add cheaper depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Big Turk said: The Bills leaking it to the media and then their local podcaster scene, with the threat of having to stay in Chicago, is great strategy for bringing his price down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, billsfan89 said: And honestly Wallace would be a nice addition for depth and not cost a whole lot. Johnson is clearly the better player but adding a start able option in case Dane or Benford get hurt is not a bad move at all. Johnson would obviously be better but it’s not a bad move to add cheaper depth. It's .. fine. I agree. Wallace would give us reliable depth to play at a similar level to Jackson in our scheme. It doesn't move the needle, but helps prevent it from dropping any further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, billsfan89 said: And honestly Wallace would be a nice addition for depth and not cost a whole lot. Johnson is clearly the better player but adding a start able option in case Dane or Benford get hurt is not a bad move at all. Johnson would obviously be better but it’s not a bad move to add cheaper depth. I'd honestly be fine with getting both. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yobogoya! Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, billsfan89 said: And honestly Wallace would be a nice addition for depth and not cost a whole lot. Johnson is clearly the better player but adding a start able option in case Dane or Benford get hurt is not a bad move at all. Johnson would obviously be better but it’s not a bad move to add cheaper depth. We never should have let Levi walk, considering Tre was still rehabbing and we had no one else to start at CB except Dane Jackson and a hypothetical draft pick (which ended up being Elam). Considering the relative pittance the Steelers paid him, that was a real misfire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Likely this is what the Bears were trying to accomplish - to show JJ what his MV is. No 5/$100M Denzel Ward deal for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, Yobogoya! said: We never should have let Levi walk, considering Tre was still rehabbing and we had no one else to start at CB except Dane Jackson and a hypothetical draft pick (which ended up being Elam). Considering the relative pittance the Steelers paid him, that was a real misfire. Yes but have you considered that Wallace was awful? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: I'd honestly be fine with getting both. Yea, I don't think they have to be an either/or... Especially if Elam does get traded. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: Yes but have you considered that Wallace was awful? I wouldn't say awful, but we needed better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Yobogoya! said: We never should have let Levi walk, considering Tre was still rehabbing and we had no one else to start at CB except Dane Jackson and a hypothetical draft pick (which ended up being Elam). Considering the relative pittance the Steelers paid him, that was a real misfire. That was the McKissic/Commanders/Rivera drama with Beane and the Bills. Beane put his talks with Wallace on hold to try to get some Offensive help, and was working a deal with McKissic. When McKissic agreed, Beane slated that money for McKissic and dropped the Wallace talks and he got scooped by Pittsburgh. Then at the last second, McKissic's camp goes back to the Commanders FO who decide to match our offer, and McKissic decides to stay in Washington. Beane was PISSED. Angriest I've ever seen him at a presser, which isnt saying much, but seeing anything from him made it clear it was a big deal. Edited October 31, 2023 by DrDawkinstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yobogoya! Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, Roundybout said: Yes but have you considered that Wallace was awful? Haha, true he's no world beater but year after year he beat out anyone we had compete with him for the no. 2 role. All I know is considering the recurring injuries and lack of depth at that spot, he's definitely roster-able for this team. That's true both now and last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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