The Red King Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 28 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: The bills player started lifting the helmet off and the punter aggressively completed the removal. It was pretty minor. Removing a helmut is not a penalty if it comes off during a play or when another player is pulling it off. I was going to say this, at least regarding taking the helmet off. Once the helmet was off though, it looked like an intentional swing. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 12 minutes ago, The Red King said: I was going to say this, at least regarding taking the helmet off. Once the helmet was off though, it looked like an intentional swing. It was CLEARLY an intentional swing. He should’ve been immediately ejected. The punter has no business mixing it up with the big boys. 1 1 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennstate10 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 2 hours ago, DallasBillsFan1 said: From a reverse angle you can see it was a Bills player that lifted the helmet off the TB player. The punter raised his hands to the ref signaling he wasn't doing it. That's why. It was sort of confusing, and I didn’t watch in super slow mo, but it looked to me that 43 on Bills pulled the dudes helmet off, and then the dude pulled it back from him, and ended up swinging the helmet. I was just glad it wasn’t penalty Bills. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 34 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Fans spend WAY too much griping about calls already, and to complain about a call/non-call that actually had no bearing on an actual play? It’s tiresome. Refs neither favor nor or biased against the Bills. Nobody is saying it has any to do with bias. You simply cannot swing your helmet at someone and a punter should know better than to get involved in something like that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted October 28, 2023 Author Share Posted October 28, 2023 39 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Nobody is saying it has any to do with bias. You simply cannot swing your helmet at someone and a punter should know better than to get involved in something like that. I agree, helmet swinging is a different level of wrong. And saying the refs couldn't determine what happened is weak. They should have stopped play and figured it out. There was a commercial break anyway I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 4 hours ago, Einstein's Dog said: The lack of a penalty on the Helmet swing baffles me. They replayed it and it seemed to me the announcers were covering it like they assumed that was going to be called. Then things got murky, I guess the call was offsetting penalties, and the announcers dropped it quickly. But when I saw that replay it looked like the little guy was deliberately swinging his helmet and it grazed someone. We already had the Giants nonsense where they had what looked like 3 different guys doing personal fouls to our one and saying they offset, now this? Does anyone have an explanation on what happened there? I suspect they thought it was taken off him and just came down in the scuffle to grab on it? I thought the crew in NY would’ve chimed in though. Maybe letting the kicker off the hook based on position though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Should have been a penalty and wen ejection. Even if you argue the helmet came off unintentionally he still swung it. And the ref through the flag and they decided to pick it up! Terribly officiated game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Nobody is saying it has any to do with bias. You simply cannot swing your helmet at someone and a punter should know better than to get involved in something like that. Meh. Bills fans complaining about nonsense like this as opposed to actual plays in the game and athletic performance is the gaming world equivalent of rules lawyering. No one likes those people (except for other rules lawyers, who appear to be well represented in this thread). Edited October 28, 2023 by dave mcbride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCAS Baritone Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 It would have been fair to call two penalties - one on the Bills player that took off the helmet, and one on the punter that swung the helmet. And the punter should have been ejected. Since he wasn't ejected, the league should suspend him for next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 8 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: He should’ve been immediately ejected, but Goodells NFL it’s a free for all. It’s somewhat surprising, too. When he became Commish he levied some heavy suspensions/fines. Then, there may have been too much criticism so he became more lenient (Ray Rice). Then you never knew what he was going to do as he was Al, over the place (Brady gets 6 games for Deflategate). I don’t think the NFL uses focus groups but maybe they should. Most fans don’t like the crappy football that’s usually played on Thursdays but it’s big bucks so they don’t care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 I don’t know what’s up a penalty anymore I literally saw an opponent punch, one of our guys in the head in a previous game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennstate10 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: I don’t know what’s up a penalty anymore I literally saw an opponent punch, one of our guys in the head in a previous game Ahhh, let’s be serious. There is zero chance a guy wearing a Ridell helmet is hurt by some other dudes bare hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, DallasBillsFan1 said: From a reverse angle you can see it was a Bills player that lifted the helmet off the TB player. The punter raised his hands to the ref signaling he wasn't doing it. That's why. This!!!! At first I couldn't believe the no-call, then on the third replay I saw what happened. Good no-call. 8 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: It was CLEARLY an intentional swing. He should’ve been immediately ejected. The punter has no business mixing it up with the big boys. Wasnt clear at all. Half the motion was him trying just to grab the helmet, and whoever was giving the impetus at that point, it was a very soft swing with little impact. Edited October 28, 2023 by Thurman#1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 2 hours ago, pennstate10 said: Ahhh, let’s be serious. There is zero chance a guy wearing a Ridell helmet is hurt by some other dudes bare hand. I don't thinks is so much as getting hurt, but if you're going to penalize someone for holding up a peace sign or for a headbutt, throwing a punch or swinging a helmet shouldn't they be one as well.🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUNTANBILLS FAN Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 14 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: He should’ve been immediately ejected, but Goodells NFL it’s a free for all. Like Ridley throwing a punch in front of an official and not even a penalty ? He should of been thrown out too. And the giants players spiking guys and somehow Dawkins gets a Penalty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 20 hours ago, BillsFanSD said: Because it's just another example of inexplicable officiating. Did it change the outcome of the game? No. Was I worked up about it at the time? No. Was it the right call? No. It is good for officials to call a clean game and bad when they don't. How does losing your punter to a rightful ejection in the 1st quarter NOT affect the game? I'll never understand people pulling "it didn't affect the game" just because it wasn't the literal last deciding play of the game or something. Butterfly Effect, things change. 13 hours ago, pennstate10 said: Ahhh, let’s be serious. There is zero chance a guy wearing a Ridell helmet is hurt by some other dudes bare hand. Ahhh YOU be serious. Throwing a punch is an AUTOMATIC ejection no matter what helmet the other guy is wearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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