Guffalo Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Ralph isn't cheap, Deutsche bank is cheap! https://www.yahoo.com/news/bank-wouldn-t-increase-trump-232716118.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Sadly, I can’t think of an adequate way to thank them! 3 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Thank you Deutsche Bank. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 From the TSW news page: Quote ‘Forbes valued the Bills at $3.7 billion in August – that’s up $1.4 billion in two years. Team owners Terry and Kim Pegula bought the team for $1.4 billion in 2014.’ The Germans build better cars than they are investors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 22 minutes ago, boater said: From the TSW news page: The Germans build better cars than they are investors. The bank turned down a loan to someone they deemed a bad credit risk. Even if they had approved the loan, they wouldn't have been buying shares of the team. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 I’d have been a Giants fan by now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 23 minutes ago, WhoTom said: The bank turned down a loan to someone they deemed a bad credit risk. Even if they had approved the loan, they wouldn't have been buying shares of the team. As a former banker I can tell you one of the worst mistakes you can make is doing a deal because you feel good about the collateral. YOU are making a LOAN, not buying an asset. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IzabellaRose Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) Making a loan decision based on feelings about collateral can indeed lead to risky situations. It's all about sound financial judgment when it comes to lending. By the way, if you ever need financial advice, whether it's about loans, mortgages, or any other money matters, consider talking to a Mortgage Broker in Cheltenham. They can provide expert insights and help you make the most informed decisions. Here's to making wise financial choices! Edited December 1, 2023 by IzabellaRose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Probably would have had an enclosed stadium by now 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 15 hours ago, mead107 said: Probably would have had an enclosed stadium by now In Toronto! 😆 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 If nothing else the Wall of Fame would have be yuge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 16 hours ago, mead107 said: Probably would have had an enclosed stadium by now 52 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: In Toronto! 😆 Or L.A. And I think we all know whose name would be on the stadium. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Super Fan Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 On 10/27/2023 at 6:13 PM, mead107 said: Probably would have had an enclosed stadium by now Yes in Queens because that is where Donald Trump would have most likely moved the Buffalo Bills to in the MLS soccer stadium going up in Queens for New York City FC MLS that would have been a bigger domed stadium with potentially the Donald Trump New York (Bills) Trumps in it. The Bills team would have most likely been renamed Trumps because Donald Trump puts his name on everything he buys. How I come to that conclusion is look at the New Jersey Generals USFL under Donald Trump. If the USFL was awarded more money than $3. Donald Trump was going to move the New Jersey Generals to Shea Stadium and call them New York Generals. There is no way someone that likes the art of the deal like Donald Trump is running the Buffalo Bills in Buffalo. If Trump acquired the Bills he would have sued his way out of the 10 years lease that the Ralph Wilson ownership signed. As a Buffalo Bills fan I don’t have a doubt that Donald Trump would move the Bills to New York City and not think twice about it. The Rogers group the Buffalo Bills would have eventually been in Toronto. I don’t have a doubt about that either. Just like I don’t have a doubt if the Buffalo Bills were put up for sale tomorrow Delaware North Jacobs family would own the Buffalo Bills. Because 10 years makes a huge difference gambling isn’t frown upon like 10 years ago by the NFL owners. The Jacobs family couldn’t bid because of West Virginia Racetrack and gambling holdings if I recall. The group of ownership groups bidding would be larger and much wealthier than Trump, Rodgers and and even Pegula. Even the Jacobs family or the Pegula family would need partners today from a group most likely because of the raising costs of NFL franchises today. Most people aren’t walking around with $5 or $6 billion dollars to pay for a NFL franchise that doesn’t even include the cost of constructing a NFL stadium either privately or public/private partnership in Buffalo’s case in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 He would have changed the name to - BUFFALO BILLS TRUMP EVERY TEAM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guffalo Posted October 31, 2023 Author Share Posted October 31, 2023 And it looks like bankers doubted he would get approval anyway https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-tried-buy-buffalo-bills-200756359.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Stupid bank. Trump would have fired Mcclappy after the Bengals game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Silly goose, there would have never been no Bills-Bengals game! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 56 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Stupid bank. Trump would have fired Mcclappy after the Bengals game. He wouldn't have hired McD in the first place; we'd still have the ignorant blowhard (Rex) as our HC. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 12 hours ago, WhoTom said: He wouldn't have hired McD in the first place; we'd still have the ignorant blowhard (Rex) as our HC. That and likely brought Doug Flutie back in some capacity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 (edited) This thread is a ban trap. Edited November 1, 2023 by PromoTheRobot 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 16 hours ago, WhoTom said: He wouldn't have hired McD in the first place; we'd still have the ignorant blowhard (Rex) as our HC. No way, he would have a reality show for our coaching staff. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Of courses they did. he's a shyster. so why does this topic fly in off the Wall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Of courses they did. he's a shyster. so why does this topic fly in off the Wall? Because people are avoiding the politics and the personal opinions of the topic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 6 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: This thread is a ban trap. I’ve never wanted to be banned more! I’m so….conflicted. Should we start a $5 pool to guess who steps in it first? 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 2 hours ago, boyst said: Because people are avoiding the politics and the personal opinions of the topic. the title is a personal opinion.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: the title is a personal opinion.... No, the title is not an opinion. The bank would not lend him the money according to reports. There is no opinion in that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Augie said: No, the title is not an opinion. The bank would not lend him the money according to reports. There is no opinion in that. yup dirty deeds..... Edited November 2, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 38 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: the title is a personal opinion.... Facts over feelings, bub. The title is in fact a fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, boyst said: Facts over feelings, bub. The title is in fact a fact. yes and it flies, scooter Edited November 2, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guffalo Posted November 2, 2023 Author Share Posted November 2, 2023 On 11/1/2023 at 4:23 PM, Joe Ferguson forever said: Of courses they did. he's a shyster. so why does this topic fly in off the Wall? I titled it as such because its not a political issue, just an observation of how a financial institution proceeded in relation to a persons' interested in our team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Guffalo said: I titled it as such because its not a political issue, just an observation of how a financial institution proceeded in relation to a persons' interested in our team. This is not political to me at all. They turned me down too and I have to admit I was kinda pissed at the time. But things have turned out fine with me on the fringes, instead. The title is factual and fair, IMO. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: here's the issue. Facts are now fluid....Deutsche bank has been in trouble. big fines. Who do we believe? The lender or potential borrower? Oh, I know who I believe, but I’m not going there. Not here, not in a bar next to some guy. Nothing is gained. Nobody is persuaded. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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