KingBoots8 Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 I hadn’t seen much conversation regarding how the new stadium will pay homage to the former players and staff who paved the way years ago. It’s been over 6 years since someone was added to the wall (Cookie in 2017), and with the old stadium riding into the sunset, I can’t see anyone being added before 2026 in the new stadium. I wonder what fans would like to see - something similar to what we have currently, something completely new, or scrap it altogether? On that very same note: who would you want to see join the wall? I have a top-5 I’d like to see, specifically highlighting the drought-era: 1. Kyle Williams: The heart and soul of the drought-era Bills. He played long enough that the current regime was able to meet him, and I could see them making a push for him to get his place. Great player, great person, and a huge fan favorite. It’s not a matter of “if”, but “when” he gets his spot. 2. Eric Moulds: Arguably the 2nd best WR ever on the Bills, with Diggs working his way into that spot over the next few seasons. 3x Pro Bowler, over 9,000 yards, and 10 seasons with us. 3. Fred Jackson: Fred-ex was probably our best offensive player for a few years. His journey makes it impossible to not love the guy, and after years of playing second fiddle to some deserving (Lynch) and some not-so-deserving (Spiller) players, he was given a shot and, literally, ran with it. 3rd all-time leading rusher for Buffalo, and you still see people rocking “22” jerseys in the stands. 4. Brian Moorman: Another popular player with fans, and someone still active in the community today with his charitable foundations, he leads the Bills in punts, punt yards, and longest punt in franchise history. 2x Pro Bowler, 2x All Pro. He’s got the stats and tenure to make it up there. 5. Rain Lindell: 83.3% accuracy as a kicker is an incredible feat, and was only 38 points away from tying Steve Christie for most points all-time for the franchise. He was unsung hero for us in a time with few things to celebrate, but he was so dependable and at the very least made a few sorry teams look better than they were. Bass might overtake him and Christie someday, but lucky we have a team nowadays that scores TD’s. Lindell was great and deserves recognition for his 12 year stint with us. HM: Cornelius Bennett: Had to add him to my list even if he played before the “dark ages” of the Bills lol. I get why I’ve isn’t up already. I can understand the hesitation to add him, but if we look at the player and not the person (hello, OJ) he deserves his place. So what would you like to see kept, changed, removed, or added at the new stadium? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, KingBoots8 said: I hadn’t seen much conversation regarding how the new stadium will pay homage to the former players and staff who paved the way years ago. It’s been over 6 years since someone was added to the wall (Cookie in 2017), and with the old stadium riding into the sunset, I can’t see anyone being added before 2026 in the new stadium. I wonder what fans would like to see - something similar to what we have currently, something completely new, or scrap it altogether? On that very same note: who would you want to see join the wall? I have a top-5 I’d like to see, specifically highlighting the drought-era: 1. Kyle Williams: The heart and soul of the drought-era Bills. He played long enough that the current regime was able to meet him, and I could see them making a push for him to get his place. Great player, great person, and a huge fan favorite. It’s not a matter of “if”, but “when” he gets his spot. 2. Eric Moulds: Arguably the 2nd best WR ever on the Bills, with Diggs working his way into that spot over the next few seasons. 3x Pro Bowler, over 9,000 yards, and 10 seasons with us. 3. Fred Jackson: Fred-ex was probably our best offensive player for a few years. His journey makes it impossible to not love the guy, and after years of playing second fiddle to some deserving (Lynch) and some not-so-deserving (Spiller) players, he was given a shot and, literally, ran with it. 3rd all-time leading rusher for Buffalo, and you still see people rocking “22” jerseys in the stands. 4. Brian Moorman: Another popular player with fans, and someone still active in the community today with his charitable foundations, he leads the Bills in punts, punt yards, and longest punt in franchise history. 2x Pro Bowler, 2x All Pro. He’s got the stats and tenure to make it up there. 5. Rain Lindell: 83.3% accuracy as a kicker is an incredible feat, and was only 38 points away from tying Steve Christie for most points all-time for the franchise. He was unsung hero for us in a time with few things to celebrate, but he was so dependable and at the very least made a few sorry teams look better than they were. Bass might overtake him and Christie someday, but lucky we have a team nowadays that scores TD’s. Lindell was great and deserves recognition for his 12 year stint with us. HM: Cornelius Bennett: Had to add him to my list even if he played before the “dark ages” of the Bills lol. I get why I’ve isn’t up already. I can understand the hesitation to add him, but if we look at the player and not the person (hello, OJ) he deserves his place. So what would you like to see kept, changed, removed, or added at the new stadium? A Bills Hall of Fame inside the stadium. 9 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 I'm on board for Kyle Williams and Eric Moulds. Those guys were excellent by NFL standards. I'm not really on board with Fred Jackson. He was an average NFL running back. I get that he was super popular and he has a great story, but the bug reason he is so loved is because he was basically the only decent thing about the Bills offense for a long time. To me, that doesn't make you wall of fame worthy. Brian Moorman is an interesting one. I'm not sure what to think because he was really good, but he was also just a punter, so I guess I'll say no to that. Butch Byrd is the guy who really needs to be added. 5x AFL All-Star, 3x First Team All-AFL, 40 INT's (Bills franchise leader). He should have been added a long time ago. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 First delete Simpson. Replace with Kyle. 2 1 5 2 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, MJS said: I'm on board for Kyle Williams and Eric Moulds. Those guys were excellent by NFL standards. I'm not really on board with Fred Jackson. He was an average NFL running back. I get that he was super popular and he has a great story, but the bug reason he is so loved is because he was basically the only decent thing about the Bills offense for a long time. To me, that doesn't make you wall of fame worthy. Brian Moorman is an interesting one. I'm not sure what to think because he was really good, but he was also just a punter, so I guess I'll say no to that. Butch Byrd is the guy who really needs to be added. 5x AFL All-Star, 3x First Team All-AFL, 40 INT's (Bills franchise leader). He should have been added a long time ago. Fred Jackson had a lot of excellent characteristics and stats by NFL standards. Fun fact: he was the first player in NFL history to compile 1,000 rushing and 1,000 kickoff return yards in a single season. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 I am mystified as to why Butch Byrd isn’t up there. 7 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, Radar said: First delete Simpson. I think they should just put "32" up there with no name. That says, "We acknowledge what you did on the field, but we really don't want your name up here." 1 2 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: A Bills Hall of Fame inside the stadium. That'd be cool. I'm simply interested in what the details of the inside of the stadium will look like and still perplexed as to why they're not out yet. Where would a WOF be in the new stadium. The sides are typically reserved for the ribbon electronics. When are these virtual tours going to begin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: A Bills Hall of Fame inside the stadium. Add Kyle, Eric or Fred...absolutely. Moorman or Lindell, not too interested. I think they'll have a nice interior Bills "wall of honor" room. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 Eric Moulds would have been a Hall of Fame receiver if he played with Brady or Manning. Moulds is my #1 choice after Butch Byrd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: A Bills Hall of Fame inside the stadium. The Atlanta Braves stadium has a mini-museum built along one of the concourses. I’m not much into baseball or museums, but I liked the way they blended that in. Cool idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 1 hour ago, KingBoots8 said: I hadn’t seen much conversation regarding how the new stadium will pay homage to the former players and staff who paved the way years ago. It’s been over 6 years since someone was added to the wall (Cookie in 2017), and with the old stadium riding into the sunset, I can’t see anyone being added before 2026 in the new stadium. I wonder what fans would like to see - something similar to what we have currently, something completely new, or scrap it altogether? On that very same note: who would you want to see join the wall? I have a top-5 I’d like to see, specifically highlighting the drought-era: 1. Kyle Williams: The heart and soul of the drought-era Bills. He played long enough that the current regime was able to meet him, and I could see them making a push for him to get his place. Great player, great person, and a huge fan favorite. It’s not a matter of “if”, but “when” he gets his spot. 2. Eric Moulds: Arguably the 2nd best WR ever on the Bills, with Diggs working his way into that spot over the next few seasons. 3x Pro Bowler, over 9,000 yards, and 10 seasons with us. 3. Fred Jackson: Fred-ex was probably our best offensive player for a few years. His journey makes it impossible to not love the guy, and after years of playing second fiddle to some deserving (Lynch) and some not-so-deserving (Spiller) players, he was given a shot and, literally, ran with it. 3rd all-time leading rusher for Buffalo, and you still see people rocking “22” jerseys in the stands. 4. Brian Moorman: Another popular player with fans, and someone still active in the community today with his charitable foundations, he leads the Bills in punts, punt yards, and longest punt in franchise history. 2x Pro Bowler, 2x All Pro. He’s got the stats and tenure to make it up there. 5. Rain Lindell: 83.3% accuracy as a kicker is an incredible feat, and was only 38 points away from tying Steve Christie for most points all-time for the franchise. He was unsung hero for us in a time with few things to celebrate, but he was so dependable and at the very least made a few sorry teams look better than they were. Bass might overtake him and Christie someday, but lucky we have a team nowadays that scores TD’s. Lindell was great and deserves recognition for his 12 year stint with us. HM: Cornelius Bennett: Had to add him to my list even if he played before the “dark ages” of the Bills lol. I get why I’ve isn’t up already. I can understand the hesitation to add him, but if we look at the player and not the person (hello, OJ) he deserves his place. So what would you like to see kept, changed, removed, or added at the new stadium? You guys gotta' let go of the idea of Cornelius Bennett being there. Had he been honored prior to the sexual assault conviction and incarceration maybe they don't take him off............but no way he gets in after-the-fact. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 30 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Fred Jackson had a lot of excellent characteristics and stats by NFL standards. Fun fact: he was the first player in NFL history to compile 1,000 rushing and 1,000 kickoff return yards in a single season. Sorry. Not wall of fame worthy to me. Love him, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 2 hours ago, MJS said: Sorry. Not wall of fame worthy to me. Love him, though. Agree but I see I'm getting some disagreement about Simpson being removed. Sorry but I just think there is more than on field to qualify one for hall of fame type of recognition. Look at Pete Rose in baseball. If he is passed over why should Simpson not be? Maybe football has different standards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 2 hours ago, MJS said: Sorry. Not wall of fame worthy to me. Love him, though. Yeah, totally not comparable to Kyle Williams and Eric Moulds... 🙄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 3 hours ago, LeGOATski said: Fred Jackson had a lot of excellent characteristics and stats by NFL standards. Fun fact: he was the first player in NFL history to compile 1,000 rushing and 1,000 kickoff return yards in a single season. I loved Fred Jackson's play, but I agree that Kyle Williams & Eric Moulds are more deserving than him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 29 minutes ago, Radar said: Agree but I see I'm getting some disagreement about Simpson being removed. Sorry but I just think there is more than on field to qualify one for hall of fame type of recognition. Look at Pete Rose in baseball. If he is passed over why should Simpson not be? Maybe football has different standards? In my opinion Pete Rose is like Bill Beli-CHEAT and this proves NFL standards are lower than baseball. On Simpson all issues occurred post being put in Pro Hall of Fame and on Wall of Fame so things are different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: I loved Fred Jackson's play, but I agree that Kyle Williams & Eric Moulds are more deserving than him. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Mark Vader said: I loved Fred Jackson's play, but I agree that Kyle Williams & Eric Moulds are more deserving than him. Williams and Moulds more yes but that does not mean Fred Jackson does not deserve nor does not mean every player who does not enter Hall of Fame on first ballot does not deserve to be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 11 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Why? I just feel that his stature is just not there as with the other players on the wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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