WEATHER DOT COM Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Bob Jones said: NFL owners are certifiably insane. Because they agree to pay these guys their market value? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mango said: Oh for sure. I was just taking cap numbers. I don’t care how much Pegula has paid him. Just his cap number. It was a market value extension at the time it was done. It was done at a lucky time as NFL revenue and the cap have exploded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 Did this guy not say he was gonna take a pay cut to keep his weapons not too long ago? Lol what a crock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2Moulds Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 16 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said: How much did he leave for Chase? He'll get his too, but you have to believe that Tee Higgins is as good as gone after this year. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Jones Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, WEATHER DOT COM said: Because they agree to pay these guys their market value? I will LMAO when one (or more) of these guys who have these insanely high cost contracts get hurt, and the owner(s) have to pay them their "guaranteed" money for sitting at home playing Xbox. The high amounts of the contracts are insane, but giving out so much guaranteed money takes the insanity to a new level. 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 11 minutes ago, WEATHER DOT COM said: Because they agree to pay these guys their market value? I'm kinda with the other dude. The owners keep resetting the market and creating the value. That's my worthless opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 $219 million guaranteed. The most guaranteed money Mike Brown had ever given out prior to this was $31 million for Orlando Brown Jr. in March. Before that was $30M to Carson Palmer way back in 2005. The Bengals have been extremely stingy on guarantees. Mike Brown obviously had no choice in this case. But that’s like $250 million in guarantees just this year. They also have Chase coming due for a new deal. They're going to have to give him some hefty guaranteed money too. I believe that guaranteed money has to be put in the bank up front. I know Bengals have been spending more in recent years, but I’m still curious to see if this deal has any effect on the way they operate, at least in the next few years. Is Mike Brown going to be willing to keep spending like he has? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 I read somewhere that Nick Bosa, Chris Jones and Joe Burrow all have the same agent… That guy is making some serious bank this month. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 39 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Not til at least 3/4 years into the new deal… It’s up to josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 17 minutes ago, Bob Jones said: I will LMAO when one (or more) of these guys who have these insanely high cost contracts get hurt, and the owner(s) have to pay them their "guaranteed" money for sitting at home playing Xbox. The high amounts of the contracts are insane, but giving out so much guaranteed money takes the insanity to a new level. 😉 I actually don’t mind the contract value. It’s billionaires paying millionaires a fraction of the product they produce. I’d be for the salary cap taking a larger percentage. I do wish the QB market was less of a percentage though. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 39 minutes ago, Bob Jones said: NFL owners are certifiably insane. Yeah. Poor guys aren’t making any money themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Bob Jones said: NFL owners are certifiably insane. I wouldn't mind being insane like that. Edited September 8, 2023 by MJS 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro Nimbus Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 They just had to wait to announce this during the Chiefs game. Just to try and upstage them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 Now we await the Spotrac breakdown of the contract to see how it is structured in order to allow the Bengals to keep Chase and Higgins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, MJS said: I wouldn't mind being insane like that. Ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuba guy Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 Throw more balls to the good guys pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 Are people really worried about Josh after this? That dude wants a “fair” deal but he is not about squeezing every dime he can out of his football career. He’s a smart guy with a good family. He knows he is set for life and he wants to win championships. The only pressure on Josh will be from agents and players who don’t want him to accept less than market value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Bob Jones said: NFL owners are certifiably insane. Just to put this deal into perspective - The total amount of Burrow’s 5 year deal is less than an NFL owner makes in a single season. The Bengals owner spent $89 million in 2022 in operating expenses and made $462 million. So just shy of $375 million in profit. In a single year. In the NFL there is a salary cap ceiling and floor (every team has to spend to at least 89% of the cap in a 4yr period). Every team decides how to spend that allotted money. Even teams without a big QB contract on their books are spending a similar amount of total money on players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Jones Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: Just to put this deal into perspective - The total amount of Burrow’s 5 year deal is less than an NFL owner makes in a single season. The Bengals owner spent $89 million in 2022 in operating expenses and made $462 million. So just shy of $375 million in profit. In a single year. Did the Bengals owner pay any taxes on that $375million? I’m thinking YES, so he’s not netting as much as you seem to think. Edited September 8, 2023 by Bob Jones 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, Bob Jones said: Did the Bengals owner pay any taxes on that $375million? I’m thinking YES, so he’s not netting as much as you seem to think. Ok, say he didn’t use any tricks or deductions and paid the full 24% federal tax rate + 4% Ohio tax rate (which seems unlikely since multi millionaires often only pay a small fraction of that) - he’d still have made about $270 million last year from the bengals. So, still as much as Burrow will make over the next 5 years. And NFL profits continue to rise almost every year. So Brown will probably make more than 5x what Burrow will over that 5 year span. So the owner of one of the least profitable NFL teams (2nd least iirc) is making 5x more than the highest paid NFL player. All of this is kind of missing the point of my post though. There is a salary cap ceiling/floor and every team spends a similar amount of total money on players every season. The cap is tied to NFL profits and each team has to spend a percentage of the cap every season. So if they give one massive deal and 52 tiny ones, they’re still spending a similar amount of money to other teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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