Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 1 hour ago, JerseyBills said: ...he just got wasted and drove , I think these types of situations the person should get a 2nd chance. He's guilty of being a moron, especially with his $ and easy ability to call an uber FFS. Just F Christ's FS. A woman (and her dog) are dead. And you think he 'just' got wasted and deserves a second chance. 🤨 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 15 hours ago, JayBaller10 said: These are Texas laws if one gets caught selling heroine, cocaine, or another “group 1” drug: To put 200 grams into perspective, it basically measures out to a cup and a half. Ruggs killed a woman, she and her dog burned alive, but he’ll do far less time than someone caught trying to sell a cup and a half worth of cocaine. Something seems very wrong with that picture. To put the sentences into perspective, burning a woman to death from drunk driving only carries a 50% higher minimum sentence than selling ONE GRAM of cocaine. 34 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: FFS. Just F Christ's FS. A woman (and her dog) are dead. And you think he 'just' got wasted and deserves a second chance. 🤨 That woman and her dog deserve a second chance, but they're not going to get it. So neither should he. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 42 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: FFS. Just F Christ's FS. A woman (and her dog) are dead. And you think he 'just' got wasted and deserves a second chance. 🤨 I agree it's freaking horrific. If that was my family I'd be devastated and I'd want justice but I believe he had zero intent on hurting/killing anyone and imo makes a big difference, he needs to pay with his time but I definitely believe he deserves a 2nd chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 5 hours ago, Matt_In_NH said: why mahomes? Because KC will probably win the dirtbag derby over Cleveland when they both try to sign him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. Probably on the bit too lenient side but I understand. Ruggs has shown contrition. Now he will face punishment, and get a second chance to prove it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Beck Water said: It's not even the collection. The claim is that the judge did not have "probable cause" to issue the warrant for a blood draw of a man who just crashed into a vehicle doing 156 mph and was taken to hospital instead of having that delayed for a field sobriety test; the judge was not told he smelled of alcohol, had bloodshot eyes, and had admitted to drinking. This really puked me out. It's not right to delay hospital transport of a patient who might require prompt treatment in order to administer a field sobriety test, but it's also not right to be able to turn the fact that there wasn't a field sobriety test prior to hospital transport into a roadblock or "get out of drunk driving charges free" card if transport is not delayed for the field test. I ain't a lawyer, but it seems to me the Your take is not controversial to me, but the charges revolved around BAC thus the prosecutor cares. I'm totally down with that, as long as you can arrange for the girl and her dog to get a 2nd chance, unburnt. Oh, you can't? Well then. He's not just guilty of being a moron. He's guilty of causing someone's death through voluntary choices he made. If Ruggs doesn’t deserve a second choice, are you supporting the death penalty in this instance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 12 minutes ago, FireChans said: An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. Probably on the bit too lenient side but I understand. Ruggs has shown contrition. Now he will face punishment, and get a second chance to prove it. You realize an eye for an eye in this case would entail strapping him in his car and burning him alive yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Just now, GoBills808 said: You realize an eye for an eye in this case would entail strapping him in his car and burning him alive yes I would consider it “killing someone for killing someone.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 First and foremost … second, after first … and in conclusion: An innocent woman died a terrible and premature death and left a family that will grieve until they’re no longer with us. Repeat that, for those who’d misconstrue what follows. I am amazed at the posts that show no consideration, or understanding, or empathy for the young man who was driving. It was his fault, period. If my life came down to the mistakes and errors in judgment I made, especially when i was a twenty something, I’d be in a pickle deeper than I can imagine. Bugger off, you hard justice warriors … and show me your life’s judgment resumes. If you’ve made no egregious errors, whether you got away with them or not, you’re a cat I’ve not met. There are victims, here. Some are the victims of others, and some are the victims of chance and fate. My heart goes out to both parties. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Regardless of this tragedy.... I've read through all the replies on this thread And Henry rugs life is just as impacted as the woman that he killed accidentally He is a kid.. and he will never be the same I'm not going to kick him when he's down Let ye who has not sinned cast the first stone RIP to the lady 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Just now, FireChans said: I would consider it “killing someone for killing someone.” Good thing nobody said he should be killed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 59 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: I agree it's freaking horrific. If that was my family I'd be devastated and I'd want justice but I believe he had zero intent on hurting/killing anyone and imo makes a big difference, he needs to pay with his time but I definitely believe he deserves a 2nd chance he intended to drive drunk, with all that implies. justice has been delivered. he'll get another chance...in 3-10. what's your point otherwise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 10 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Henry rugs life is just as impacted as the woman that he killed accidentally Gonna go ahead and disagree here😂😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 15 minutes ago, Neo said: First and foremost … second, after first … and in conclusion: An innocent woman died a terrible and premature death and left a family that will grieve until they’re no longer with us. Repeat that, for those who’d misconstrue what follows. I am amazed at the posts that show no consideration, or understanding, or empathy for the young man who was driving. It was his fault, period. If my life came down to the mistakes and errors in judgment I made, especially when i was a twenty something, I’d be in a pickle deeper than I can imagine. Bugger off, you hard justice warriors … and show me your life’s judgment resumes. If you’ve made no egregious errors, whether you got away with them or not, you’re a cat I’ve not met. There are victims, here. Some are the victims of others, and some are the victims of chance and fate. My heart goes out to both parties. Have you ever killed someone while making a mistake/error? Or at least seriously injured someone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Gonna go ahead and disagree here😂😂 In a practical sense, yea... But if you listen to my whole post I quoted Jesus Christ who is my Lord and Savior I believe that woman is in a better place as we all will be when we pass away Her life was cut short.. but I believe she's with the Lord.. Henry will be living hell on Earth for the rest of his life because he knows that he inadvertently took a woman's life... That's torture And it's not funny to have your laughing faces at the end of your post because this is a sad story for both families Edited August 10, 2023 by Buffalo716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 I have evening drinks, nothing too crazy, but enough to get in trouble with the law. Sometimes the kids would ask me to drive out and get take-out food. They get a big fat NO from me. On some occasions I've spoiled them with UberEats. I figure the extra $15 is better than a horrific accident, lawyer fees, and jail time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 17 hours ago, unbillievable said: He'll still be young enough to sign as an NFL FB when he gets out. kick the tires? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 12 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: he intended to drive drunk, with all that implies. justice has been delivered. he'll get another chance...in 3-10. what's your point otherwise? My original point was responding to someone saying he deserves a life sentence, and I disagreed because he intended to drive drunk but didn't intend to hurt or kill anyone. Feel his sentence is fair, he made a dumb decision but there wasn't any violence on his mind 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 does anyone here ever watch Court TV? There is a case currently where a 18 year old girl got totally wasted and killed a woman on her wedding day. Ran her and her new groom over in their golf cart after the ceremony. Yes people make mistakes that kill others and even sometimes themselves. It's the sheer stupidity and audacity to get behind the wheel of a car and drive like a crazed lunatic as was both of these cases. both fueled by alcohol. This fatal "Mistake" keeps happening and it pisses me off. My own frustration and indignation comes out more for the victims being the innocents. I have compassion for the Ruggs family too though. It sucks all around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 19 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: In a practical sense, yea... But if you listen to my whole post I quoted Jesus Christ who is my Lord and Savior I believe that woman is in a better place as we all will be when we pass away Her life was cut short.. but I believe she's with the Lord.. Henry will be living hell on Earth for the rest of his life because he knows that he inadvertently took a woman's life... That's torture And it's not funny to have your laughing faces at the end of your post because this is a sad story for both families I'm not laughing at what happened, I'm laughing at the people who think getting loaded and doing 150+ in a residential area isn't inherently malicious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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