That's No Moon Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 3 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Honorable attempt at facts but I dont think "thats no moon" is emotionally amble enough to accept reality. What's reality? I'm just curious? 3 hours ago, Beck Water said: Huh. If you remember attending and winning 3 AFC championship games, do you remember that Kelly's 1st 3 years with the Bills were 4-12, then 7-8, then 12-4 with high expectations and LOST the AFC championship, then 9-7 on a team that had been expected to contend for the AFC Championship again but LOST in the divisional round? So basically you're upset with a year in which we lost in the divisional round again, but this time after a 13-3 season where we lost our defensive star at Thanksgiving? Well, I'm not sure why we are tracking Kelly specifically rather than the team? Is it because we are then tracking Allen alongside that? I remember a couple other teams we played alongside during that time that always crashed out and couldn't get past us to get over the hump. Ironically Kansas City comes to mind. Lots of wins every year, lost every year and couldn't get there. Were they great? 3 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Honorable attempt at facts but I dont think "thats no moon" is emotionally amble enough to accept reality. What if the fact is that they had their shot two years ago and blew it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 I heard from my brothers ,cousins, nephews, sisters former room mate and found out that they hate each other like Lone Star and Dark Helmet hate each other....but oddly need each other 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Any update on this? Decline or no decline? I'm dying to know. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomur67 Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 On 4/19/2023 at 7:09 PM, Big Blitz said: I would argue it’s probably more accurate to say these guys were never “besties” or whatever. Just 2 guys having a blast winning games and making millions and becoming household names. I put the odds at around 90% at some point this exchange happened likely at some point during or after the Minnesota Meltdown: Diggs: “You’re elite because I showed up.” Allen: “You’re elite because of me.” Diggs: “Stop throwing to our trash WR 3 and Singletary who has no YAC.” Allen: “I can’t throw to you every play.” Diggs: “Yes you can.” I couldn’t care less. Diggs sees the end of his peak years coming and that’s what he cares about - winning a SB while he can. Allen has hopefully 15 years left in the league. We’re having this discussion bc WRs are divas. Period. Unless something happened off the field which I highly highly doubt. AJ Brown was complaining during the playoffs about getting the ball. It just comes with the territory. With Josh and Diggs, they both made the other better. Whether Stephon gets a Super Bowl ring remains to seen. But , I believe if they continue to play together for a significant number of years, Stephon has an excellent shot at being a Hall of Famer. He will have the numbers. That was never a possibility until he teamed up with JA17. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Just need an island vacation. And I’m sorry for his breakup, but bros love when their bro becomes single again. A night on the town could be the cure to everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1onemangang7 Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 My opinion is that it's nothing a running game couldnt fix. Now i know that the OL has something to do with that. But Morris and Singletary out and Cook and Hines in. Wheres the beef. I think we lost 20 lbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted June 13, 2023 Author Share Posted June 13, 2023 Well, Diggs isn't at mandatory minicamp. Maybe the relationship is in decline after all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted June 13, 2023 Author Share Posted June 13, 2023 On 4/23/2023 at 10:50 AM, billsfan89 said: I don’t like Diggs antics but he is at least coming from the right place. As far as Diggs and Josh? I wouldn’t worry about it. I was worried in April. I'm more worried now that Diggs didn't report. Hopefully, it'll all be good by the time we play the Jets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 On 4/19/2023 at 6:34 PM, hondo in seattle said: We all know that Allen and Diggs are/were best friends. We also all know what happened with Diggs at the end of the last season. Recently, Allen was asked if his relationship with Diggs was still solid. He responded, "Absolutely... Stef's gonng be Stef. I love the guy. He is one of my favorite people on this planet. He is so fiery, so competitive. He wants the ball in his hands 24/7, and I’m never going to not like a guy like that. He wants what’s best for the team.” To me, that sounds a lot like coach-speak. Allen keeps it positive, as he should. But he never actually says that he and Diggs are still talking, hanging out, playing games together, acting like brothers from different mothers... And his comment, "I'm never going to dislike a guy like that" came off as a little odd to me. Who said anything about disliking? Do you have reasons to dislike Stef that you're overcoming? I'm not going to churches, temples, synagogues, and mosques, bawling my eyes out, earnestly praying for divine intervention for them to patch things up. But I do have some concerns about their relationship this year. I hope those concerns are wrong. It's just the kind of thing we like to worry about, when there's pretty much no evidence. What we know is that Diggs is prickly. More so than he ought to be, as far as I'm concerned, but that's how he is. His commitment to winning is A-1, and I think his willingness to respond to McDermott's leadership will win the day. But there's no way to know how any of this will go until it plays out. Maybe Diggs starts to get more out of line, maybe not. All we can do is wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted June 13, 2023 Author Share Posted June 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: It's just the kind of thing we like to worry about, when there's pretty much no evidence. What we know is that Diggs is prickly. More so than he ought to be, as far as I'm concerned, but that's how he is. His commitment to winning is A-1, and I think his willingness to respond to McDermott's leadership will win the day. But there's no way to know how any of this will go until it plays out. Maybe Diggs starts to get more out of line, maybe not. All we can do is wait and see. Maybe no damning, conclusive evidence. But some suggestive stuff: The blow-up at the end of last season... some of the odd commentary from Josh... the lack of any news of them hanging out during the offseason... Diggs' absence at the start of minicamp... These guys were best friends - joined at the hip - but, since Diggs' outburst, there's been no public evidence of that friendship. Players don't need to be great friends but there does need to be some rapport. As a long-suffering Bills fan who's endured 4 SB losses, the Home Run Throwback, 13 seconds, and a host of other disappointments, I tend to assume the worst even as I continue to hope for the best. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Diggs is immature, **** him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 1 minute ago, ndirish1978 said: Diggs is immature, **** him. So your "mature" reaction is to curse a man? Got it 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: So your "mature" reaction is to curse a man? Got it Yep. Don't you have another thread to start about your obsession with Dhop to concern yourself with? Posting a response to me seems like it's wasting valuable time you could be spending denying reality. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Smoke...fire More reason we need Dhop. This team without Diggs is in trouble. Maybe its less about Allen and more about the front office not helping him out at WR. This team still has no one that can take pressure off Diggs just a handful of role guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 14 minutes ago, ngbills said: Smoke...fire More reason we need Dhop. This team without Diggs is in trouble. Maybe its less about Allen and more about the front office not helping him out at WR. This team still has no one that can take pressure off Diggs just a handful of role guys. They drafted the best receiving TE in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 1 hour ago, hondo in seattle said: Maybe no damning, conclusive evidence. But some suggestive stuff: The blow-up at the end of last season... some of the odd commentary from Josh... the lack of any news of them hanging out during the offseason... Diggs' absence at the start of minicamp... These guys were best friends - joined at the hip - but, since Diggs' outburst, there's been no public evidence of that friendship. Players don't need to be great friends but there does need to be some rapport. As a long-suffering Bills fan who's endured 4 SB losses, the Home Run Throwback, 13 seconds, and a host of other disappointments, I tend to assume the worst even as I continue to hope for the best. Pretty thin evidence. Until the no show today. That's real evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted June 13, 2023 Author Share Posted June 13, 2023 (edited) FWIW, in another thread, @HappyDays says this: This is correct. More specifically, the blow up was Diggs saying to Josh "what's your excuse now?" (I have actually heard the audio, it was picked up by whoever was wearing the mic'd up microphone for that game) because Josh missed a throw in the game that he had also missed in practice. Their relationship has frayed. www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/247932-diggs-not-at-mandatory-minicamp-mcdermott-very-concerned/page/29/ Edited June 13, 2023 by hondo in seattle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shemp Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 (edited) Doesn't sound like Diggs wants to be a Buffalo Bill. Edited June 13, 2023 by Shemp 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Yawn,,,, 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 On 4/20/2023 at 9:49 AM, Warriorspikes51 said: Tim Graham, Jerry Sullivan or John Wawrow Ahhh, how cute. The three of them are living rent-free in this poster's head. Otherwise, he why post about each of them every other day or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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