LEBills Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 21 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: KC is always tinkering with their O-line. Significant turnover, yet they win SBs anyway. They have appeared in the last 5 AFCC Games. How many routine starters on the O-line have they drafted over that period? One--with pick #63. KC also swapped their first rounder for the Raven second rounder and Orlando Brown which by the value chart was worth about a second round pick. They paid Joe Thuney $80 million over 5 years at LG and just paid Juwan Taylor $80 million over four years. And they hit on their Center pick at #63 as well as their RG pick in round 6 or who knows what they would do there in the future. Andy Reid has always invested in the OLine going back to his Eagles days. We need playmakers but getting 4 out of 5 of our starting lineman to be high performing players helps the offense too. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 4 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: Bates is a candidate to replace Morse, imo. Perhaps and then we have another hole at LG ! Hence ! we need another guard 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 3 minutes ago, LEBills said: KC also swapped their first rounder for the Raven second rounder and Orlando Brown which by the value chart was worth about a second round pick. They paid Joe Thuney $80 million over 5 years at LG and just paid Juwan Taylor $80 million over four years. And they hit on their Center pick at #63 as well as their RG pick in round 6 or who knows what they would do there in the future. Andy Reid has always invested in the OLine going back to his Eagles days. We need playmakers but getting 4 out of 5 of our starting lineman to be high performing players helps the offense too. Yes, he in vests in vets, then moves on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 4 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: Aware of that, Thank you do you feel Connor is the answer long term Or just a better than Roger Saffold ? allowing Bates to play LG , which might be his best position ? Do we still have Ike ? Conner is 25 and is an above average pass blocker, a football junkie who takes his craft very seriously. Bates is 27 and is a perfectly good OG, both men can be long term starters for this team. Ike was re-signed this summer for one year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 (edited) 38 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: Perhaps and then we have another hole at LG ! Hence ! we need another guard 😀 They definitely need to add to the oline, but if you get a guy who could play RT and G, you have some insurance in case Brown struggles as much as he did last year. Edited March 19 by Dr. Who 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 5 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: Not happening. This regime, going back to Carolina has never done that. Drafting non elite IOL and RT in the first round is the best path to being mediocre. Lane Johnson best RT in football. Drafted first round. 1 SB ring and 2 SB appearances. Try harder 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 2 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: There is a question. That pick makes no sense if they burned a top 100 draft pick on a guy who will be the primary backup LB. Beane drafted him with a plan, I doubt the plan was career depth and special teams. The 2023 plan at LB will be a heavily discussed and debated topic this summer. Maybe 2023 is the season they move away from the 4-2-5 and start playing more 4-3 than they have the last few years. Then adding a MLB makes sense and Bernard is the other OLB. If that’s the case, Sewell makes a realistic option in the 4th+ round to play MLB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Lane Johnson best RT in football. Drafted first round. 1 SB ring and 2 SB appearances. Try harder Got another? I mean c’mon. You cherry pick 1 dude and that’s it and you are telling me to try harder? Johnson was also drafted with the idea that he would move to LT, but Jason Peters lasted longer than they thought. It was also an extremely weak first round. Also if you bothered to read the thread, I actually brought him. So you try harder man. Edited March 19 by MrEpsYtown 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 5 hours ago, GolfandBills said: Campbell will be the pick. I’d bet on it 1 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 My logical pick in the first round is right tackle as well Still have a man crush on Bijan Robinson, but he won’t be there I don’t particularly like any of the wide receivers in this draft I hate the idea of using a first round pick to replace Edmonds If we’re going to improve Josh Allen’s wall, then we need to start doing it and not just saying it I personally like Connor McGovern but more help is needed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said: Got another? I mean c’mon. You cherry pick 1 dude and that’s it and you are telling me to try harder? Johnson was also drafted with the idea that he would move to LT, but Jason Peters lasted longer than they thought. It was also an extremely weak first round. Also if you bothered to read the thread, I actually brought him. So you try harder man. Hey that's fair. I generally agree with you. I think few people would draft OT in the first round knowing they would only be a RT. I think most OTs in the first round are projected to eventually be a LT or a standout G. I guess my contraband point is superstar can be found in the later rounds too. And I don't think position and round should have anything to do with each other. To take the opposite approach and prove my point, QBs are always overvalued and team after team blow first round picks on QBs that probably grade out much lower against other players at other positions. Lastly, I say just get talent. They need youth and cheap contracts in multiple spots to stay competitive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 5 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Hey that's fair. I generally agree with you. I think few people would draft OT in the first round knowing they would only be a RT. I think most OTs in the first round are projected to eventually be a LT or a standout G. I guess my contraband point is superstar can be found in the later rounds too. And I don't think position and round should have anything to do with each other. To take the opposite approach and prove my point, QBs are always overvalued and team after team blow first round picks on QBs that probably grade out much lower against other players at other positions. Lastly, I say just get talent. They need youth and cheap contracts in multiple spots to stay competitive. I hear you. At the end of the day, we all want the same thing here. They have to find good players and try to hit on the few picks they have regardless of round etc. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 2 hours ago, Dr. Who said: You can get a good RT prospect in rounds 2 - 4. They won't and shouldn't spend a first on the position. Potential LT is a different story, of course. Spencer Brown was a 3rd rounder, Cody Ford a 2nd rounder, maybe we're better at picking 1st round RT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 3 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Conner is 25 and is an above average pass blocker, a football junkie who takes his craft very seriously. Bates is 27 and is a perfectly good OG, both men can be long term starters for this team. Ike was re-signed this summer for one year. Thank you. I am hopeful as well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 24 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said: Spencer Brown was a 3rd rounder, Cody Ford a 2nd rounder, maybe we're better at picking 1st round RT. In general, RT is not a position you dedicate a first rounder to. Picking a RT at 27 isn't justified by past failed picks. It is only justified if the player you select merits that high a pick. I don't think it likely the board will fall that way. There's a good chance this is a draft where you trade down if you can find a willing partner. Otherwise, BPA is usually smarter than reaching for need. I want to improve the oline and give better weapons to Josh, but that doesn't equate to taking a fella a round or two early just because he plays a certain position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 49 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: Thank you. I am hopeful as well Check out locked on Bills and cover 1 Buffalo podcasts, they had awesome breakdowns!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 I hope they sign a vet RT to compete with Spencer Brown. If they draft a first round RT, that signals they are pretty much giving up on Brown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 minute ago, DapperCam said: I hope they sign a vet RT to compete with Spencer Brown. If they draft a first round RT, that signals they are pretty much giving up on Brown. Sounds like they plan on signing a vet RT, funny thing is we are still technically in week 1 of FA, plenty of time for money to drop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 At pick 27 I think you go with the greatest positional need, or trade up to get the best prospect value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 5 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: At pick 27 I think you go with the greatest positional need, or trade up to get the best prospect value. I agree with the trade up, we don’t need 7 new players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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