RT in First Round

[QLBillsFan]

4 hours ago, Sweet Lou said:

It kinda does work like that.  Refrigerator Perry was clearly not a RB in Chicago!  But he handled the assignment quite well, when asked to do so.

Yes that is true. For that assignment he was outstanding. Move forward, take the hand off, run people over. But that is significantly different than moving to TE or DL. Goal line FB takes not a lot of time or technique/ adaptability. Complete position changes in the NFL are rare. And if done generally involve a undrafted FA. So it doesn’t really work like that. 

[In Summary]

On 3/19/2023 at 2:05 PM, 3rdand12 said:

Never been a fan of a player who plays guard and Tackle. They are/have physically different needs to be successful

Agree

[GunnerBill]

6 hours ago, TheBeaneBandit said:

The thing about TE though is there is probably a handful of guys who have significantly higher upside than Knox and make him expendable in a couple seasons. But the good news is we have killer 2 TE sets for 2 to maybe 4 seasons.

 

I am not sure I agree with that. Dawson Knox's upside is still relatively unscratched because the Bills don't use him enough. He is open plenty. The last 2 seasons he has been surehanded. They need to throw him the ball more. He is a freak of an athlete. 

 

It is a pretty good tight end class this though. The best one since that class in which we drafted Knox. So I do expect the Bills will take one somewhere.

[BigDingus]

If it's a quality linemen, I'm all for it.

 

Regardless of position, we need to improve & add depth (and not just jack of all trades guys to be a warm body). 

 

Morse was the best of the unit last year, but O-line has been a serious sore spot for me for years. Against better teams, it's always an obvious weakness

[MrEpsYtown]

What scares me about Wright is that some of his weaknesses are the same as Spencer Brown's in terms of footwork and punch timing in pass pro. I see a little Cody Ford there. And I just don't think you use a first-round pick unless it is a true no-doubt massive upgrade. Not sure Wright is that. 

 

 

Edited March 29 by MrEpsYtown

[gonzo1105]

21 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

What scares me about Wright is that some of his weaknesses are the same as Spencer Brown's in terms of footwork and punch timing in pass pro. I see a little Cody Ford there. And I just don't think you use a first-round pick unless it is a true no-doubt massive upgrade. Not sure Wright is that. 

 

 

I don't see a lot of Ford in his game. He is much more nimble on his feet. I will say his kick slide and footwork looks much better when coming out of a 2 point stance vs a 3 point stance so he might need some refinement in that part of his game. I thought the Kentucky kid last year at RT reminded me of Ford. 

[MrEpsYtown]

10 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:

I don't see a lot of Ford in his game. He is much more nimble on his feet. I will say his kick slide and footwork looks much better when coming out of a 2 point stance vs a 3 point stance so he might need some refinement in that part of his game. I thought the Kentucky kid last year at RT reminded me of Ford. 

 

Wright is like three times the athlete too. I just think their college tape looks very similar. 

[Paup 1995MVP]

15 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:

Yeah I think Wright is plug and play. How much better he will be than Brown in the long run is kind of my question. So is it really worth it? I really don’t like using a first round pick in a RT, but this year is just a little different in terms of it being so weak. So I have softened thatvstabce a bit for Wright. In any other year he’s a 2nd round guy. Kincaid is good too. 
 

Here’s the thing…this team isn’t drafting a #2 TE or RT competition in the first round. It’s just not happening. If they draft those guys they need to have the intention of starting them, and I think this regime likes Knox and Brown too much to go there. 
 

As much as fans hate it, if it isn’t a LB, I think it’s and edge rusher or a DT. If all the WRs and defensive talent is gone, I could see a RT or TE but I doubt it. 
 

Just so everyone goes nuts even more, the Chiefs will draft Wright at the end of the first, or jump in front of us to do so. 

Thanks for your analysis.  I don't disagree with you.  The Bills seem stuck on drafting underperforming and unathletic D Lineman with high draft picks.  (I watch a lot of college football.  But follow the teams more then the individual players.)  Based on our drafting results since 2019, not overly impressive.  Not sure why we are so averse from drafting O linemen from D 1 programs with high picks.  Not all of them turn out great.  But dam I am going to look to at least D 1 programs versus taking guys out of schools like Northern Iowa and Miami of Ohio for my O linemen.  Great disparity in competition.  And it shows when they come to the pros.  College Football is so much based on offense now.  So you would think the best players and athletes are more on the offensive side of the ball.  So that is where you would think teams would go with their top picks.  But not the Bills.  I guess we think we know better.  We shall see what happens in a months time.

[ColoradoBills]

If this year's draft talent is as bad as some of you guys say, then of course Beane will want to look to trade down.

Problem is, so will other teams.  We just have to wait and see how the draft flows.

 

The issue is IF Beane has to pick at #27, it most likely comes down to a few positions and who is the highest of those on his board.

I got no problem with a WR, LB or OT being the pick if that happens.

[LABILLBACKER]

5 hours ago, Paup 1995MVP said:

Thanks for your analysis.  I don't disagree with you.  The Bills seem stuck on drafting underperforming and unathletic D Lineman with high draft picks.  (I watch a lot of college football.  But follow the teams more then the individual players.)  Based on our drafting results since 2019, not overly impressive.  Not sure why we are so averse from drafting O linemen from D 1 programs with high picks.  Not all of them turn out great.  But dam I am going to look to at least D 1 programs versus taking guys out of schools like Northern Iowa and Miami of Ohio for my O linemen.  Great disparity in competition.  And it shows when they come to the pros.  College Football is so much based on offense now.  So you would think the best players and athletes are more on the offensive side of the ball.  So that is where you would think teams would go with their top picks.  But not the Bills.  I guess we think we know better.  We shall see what happens in a months time.

We'll be scouring the hills of Montana for the next great RT.  I want my trenches from big-time conferences. The problem is not Beane but his garbage uninspiring scouts.

[Kmart128]

I feel lile we are 100% trading doen this year. We can use the extra picks and itll put us in prime position for the MLB of our choosing.

[Southern_Bills]

1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said:

If this year's draft talent is as bad as some of you guys say, then of course Beane will want to look to trade down.

Problem is, so will other teams.  We just have to wait and see how the draft flows.

 

The issue is IF Beane has to pick at #27, it most likely comes down to a few positions and who is the highest of those on his board.

I got no problem with a WR, LB or OT being the pick if that happens.

 

If we have to pick at 27 and Drew Sanders is on the board I'm sure he is the pick.

 

I don't love it but it makes the most sense from a talent/need evaluation. 

 

I will say he was always considered an elite athlete even coming out of the state of Texas as a 5 star LB recruit. Did well at Alabama before transferring.