1st&ten Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 I've always thought comp picks were BS. If the NFL is going to have it, no team should get more then 2 picks & the higher you finished in the playoffs the lower the pick should be. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I’ll never understand compensatory picks. It's simple: If you are the Buffalo Bills, subtract 25 from whatever number you should get, if the NFL followed its own rules, and that's how many we end up with. It's a system built in the TB12 lab, and baptized with certain fluids from a Jupiter, Florida establishment of ill repute... Edited March 10, 2023 by ROCBillsBeliever I'll repute is not a thing, Autoincorrect.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 20 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: It is pretty simple. I did an explainer last year. Will try and dig it out. In its simplest form it is about the AAV of the deal your free agents sign (both incoming and outgoing). If it’s simple how come we don’t know the picks awarded until the NFL announces them? Shouldn’t we be able to mathematically determine what picks each team is getting earlier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: If it’s simple how come we don’t know the picks awarded until the NFL announces them? Shouldn’t we be able to mathematically determine what picks each team is getting earlier? Yes you can have a general idea. The only real hold up is getting the financial thresholds for each round every year because it adjusts. The people who follow this stuff knew we weren’t going to get any months ago. Edited March 10, 2023 by gonzo1105 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Just now, gonzo1105 said: Yes you can have a general idea. The only real hold up is getting the financial thresholds for each round every year because it adjusts. The people who follow this stuff knew we weren’t going to get any months ago. I always went off of lost vs gained and money spent vs money lost. I guess snaps gained and snaps lost also figures into it. I guess you can’t really predict snaps because of injuries. I still don’t understand the calculations fully but oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: I always went off of lost vs gained and money spent vs money lost. I guess snaps gained and snaps lost also figures into it. I guess you can’t really predict snaps because of injuries. I still don’t understand the calculations fully but oh well. There is no snaps played, Pro Bowls etc. Thsts folk lore from before people figured out compensatory picks and talking heads would just spout it as fact. It’s literally gained/lost not matter who the player. Contract negation on like average per year salaries. More lost than signed. Eligible for picks. What threshold do the eligible picks meet and comp picks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 minute ago, gonzo1105 said: There is no snaps played, Pro Bowls etc. Thsts folk lore from before people figured out compensatory picks and talking heads would just spout it as fact. It’s literally gained/lost not matter who the player. Contract negation on like average per year salaries. More lost than signed. Eligible for picks. What threshold do the eligible picks meet and comp picks So how does Von Miller’s monster contract only net a 5th? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 40 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: We still suck? Do you see a super bowl champ banner at the stadium? We suck until we bring it home. 13-3 is just a really good team that failed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: So how does Von Miller’s monster contract only net a 5th? I actually just read and learned that players with 10 accrued season who receive mega contracts like Millers can receive a maximum of a 5th round pick. Learned something new today Edited March 10, 2023 by gonzo1105 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 hour ago, IronMaidenBills said: That’s ok, neither does our Bills management. It’s why we have sucked for decades. including the last 5 years, amirite? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I’ll never understand compensatory picks. The only thing I truly understand about comp picks is that Buffalo never gets anything other than a 7th and it only happens every 17 years like the cicada life cycle. 52 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: I don't understand compensatory picks. I don't understand dead cap. I don't understand what's a catch anymore. I don't understand how wind can be confused. I don't understand why we didn't pooch with :13. I really don't understand why we don't help Josh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 We never get comp pics. How does SF get 7 !?!? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: It is pretty simple. I did an explainer last year. Will try and dig it out. In its simplest form it is about the AAV of the deal your free agents sign (both incoming and outgoing). I want to read that. As an example, why did SF get so many picks for lost coordinators whereas we got none for losing Daboll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 8 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said: I want to read that. As an example, why did SF get so many picks for lost coordinators whereas we got none for losing Daboll. Daboll is more black than Mike McDaniels! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Just delete the thread, now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 I think they made a mistake and switched SF and Cheats comp picks... Also we lost Leslie Frasier should get a 1st next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennstate10 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 2 hours ago, gonzo1105 said: It’s not hard. If you gain more Free Agents then you lose you get nothing. If you lose more Free Agents and then you sign you’re eligible for that amount of comp picks. Then they take like salaries of players gained/lost and take them out of the equation leaving two guys you get picks on. Over the cap is like 95% accurate and make it very easy to learn That’s not entirely true SF got 2 of their 3 3rd round picks for losing minority coaches to other teams. Saleh and McDaniel qualified as minority coaches. I’m sort of hoping that Bills ask Daboll to take a 23 and me test. I did and found out I’m 1.2% Native American. If Daboll turned out to be 1% minority, would Bills get a retroactive 3rd round pick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Just now, pennstate10 said: That’s not entirely true SF got 2 of their 3 3rd round picks for losing minority coaches to other teams. Saleh and McDaniel qualified as minority coaches. I’m sort of hoping that Bills ask Daboll to take a 23 and me test. I did and found out I’m 1.2% Native American. If Daboll turned out to be 1% minority, would Bills get a retroactive 3rd round pick? look at my previous post I said you can get up to 4 picks for PLAYERS. I then stated SF got 4 for players and 3 for coaches. All minority coaches are 3rds so figured it didn’t need to be explained Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted March 10, 2023 Author Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: We never get comp pics. How does SF get 7 !?!? IKR? They had three comp picks for minority hires. I am still.annoyed not a single team has hired Frazier, despite his highly-ranked defenses. Where are our picks? We sowed the seeds, but no reward. 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I did an explainer last year. Will try and dig it out. In its simplest form it is about the AAV of the deal your free agents sign (both incoming and outgoing). Awesome. If you happen to find it, post the info or link here! People want to learn. Edited March 10, 2023 by chongli 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: If it’s simple how come we don’t know the picks awarded until the NFL announces them? Shouldn’t we be able to mathematically determine what picks each team is getting earlier? We can. Over the cap does a tracker. 1 hour ago, Fan in Chicago said: I want to read that. As an example, why did SF get so many picks for lost coordinators whereas we got none for losing Daboll. Ha that bit is simple. I hate that rule too. I don't think the Rooney rule is working but that change made it no better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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