Mt. Rushmore of 90s Bands

[Doc]

Garth Brooks.

[NoSaint]

On 2/9/2023 at 8:08 AM, SDS said:

Again, Buffalo aside, you should really revisit the dominance they had in the late 90s spilling over into 00s. MTV is not Buffalo radio. City of Angels is not a Buffalo movie, nor was treasure Island. They were the band that epitomized the late 90s. Coincidentally, they were from Buffalo. 

they weren’t as big as nearly any of the other bands discussed. They certainly weren’t influential in a way that moved music or opened doors. You’d really have to make the mountain quite wide to justify them in the image with any confidence they really belonged by any criteria someone could come up with. 
 

that’s not to say anything is wrong with them. Carving out a commercially successful career is a huge accomplishment. 
 

Not reinventing the wheel here but… nirvana and PJ probably have to be there regardless of if they are anyone’s favorite. 
 

also likely need something heavier from Rage, NIN, korn

 

then you stumble into STP, soundgarden, AIC, RHCP, smashing pumpkins the two heavies not selected above, Radiohead, oasis, a variety of poppy punk stuff I didn’t love -Green Day, blink, offspring etc… - poppy rock like no doubt…. Sublime. Getting towards Goo Goo dolls, you probably have to pass up counting crows as a bigger and more noteworthy in the same vein. Maybe could argue who would win in a fight between hootie, GGD and matchbox 20, right?

 

and that leaves off a bulk of the multi decade bands like U2, REM, Metallica, Pantera, GNR

 

Heck it even ignores blur, garbage, black Crowes, sonic youth, Jane’s addiction, faith no more, Manson… I hate to say it but there’s probably an argument that kid rock or Fred dursts face belong on it as the bookend closing out the decade. 

 

 

it’s incredibly difficult to come up with a criteria where you pull GGD out of that list as the absolute cream of the crop. 

Edited March 19, 2023 by NoSaint

[BringMetheHeadofLeonLett]

Catching a couple opinions, or mostly non-opinions, from folks who found their music hey-day sometime earlier than the subject matter makes me realize how little of a ***** I give about the music of 2023.  
 

Honestly I think it's with good reason (most of it looks like low-rent, technology propped show-business to me), BUT. It also means I may be falling prey to the old, 'they just don't make 'em like they usta' syndrome.  
 

Maybe some adventurous sot with decent taste can start a Mt. Rushmore of the 20Somethings thread to whap the old and ancient around here across our noggins. 
 

I'll hold my breath, and in the mean time how about a 90's Mt Rushmore of the gals.  
 

Sid had Nancy, grunge had Hole:

This one's kind of a B-side concept.  Not sure the band belongs anywhere near a Mt. Rushmore based upon overall output, but the sound absolutely does.  This song just bleeds the finery of the 1990's, and Harriet Wheeler's voice is perfectly stripped down and stunning:

 

 

 

[BringMetheHeadofLeonLett]

Motoring on, PJ Harvey deserves her own spot entirely, but this song is just too gorgeous to pass up:

 

 

 

and on the concept of gorgeous, I don't think there will ever be a song which can take me to a more perfect place in this world:

 

 

Except maybe My Generation off Live at Leeds, but I'm a romantic by nature...

[BringMetheHeadofLeonLett]

My Mt. Rushmore is maybe squeezing in too many faces, but front and center is Dolores O'Riordan.  
 

Splendid, splendid, splendid:

 

 

 

[BringMetheHeadofLeonLett]

On that note, cramming in an extra face because it's just soooo 90's:

 

or is it more 2022/23 as we watch a stupidly-armed nation blast another into nonexistence in the name of... nothing.  

[BringMetheHeadofLeonLett]

 

[BringMetheHeadofLeonLett]

Crap I spaced Bjork.  I'd imagine she'd be very much front and center on the Mts. Rushmore.  Fruitful writing:

 

 

And that OH MY GOD voice:

 

 

[BillsPride12]

We should start up a 90s songs thread.  That would be pretty cool.  I actually stumbled upon 90s Nation on MTV Classic over the weekend and watched some music videos I either hadn't seen in 30 years, had completely forgotten about or never saw to begin with.

[BritBill]

Oasis

The Stone Roses

The Charlatans

James

 

[LeviF]

8 hours ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said:

 

Maybe some adventurous sot with decent taste can start a Mt. Rushmore of the 20Somethings thread to whap the old and ancient around here across our noggins. 

 

 

I've repeated it in these fora until I'm blue in the face but there was good rock music being made as the 2000s rolled on into the 2010s and still is now. There's just precious little available radio time for rock as compared to the 90s and even the early 00s, so you have to look for it. 

 

The Gaslight Anthem, Against Me!, The Menzingers, The 1975, The Killers, Red City Radio, Muse, The Ruse, Foo Fighters, The White Stripes, The Strokes, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Spoon...then there's harder stuff and more emo stuff that objectively is good music but isn't everyone's taste. Examples include Good Charlotte, Bad Omens, Godsmack, I Prevail, August Burns Red, A Perfect Circle, Chevelle, The Amity Affliction, A Day to Remember, etc...

 

The lists can run for a while. Hard to do a Mt. Rushmore style top four so soon after or during an era of music though.

[GoBills808]

1 minute ago, LeviF said:

 

I've repeated it in these fora until I'm blue in the face but there was good rock music being made as the 2000s rolled on into the 2010s and still is now. There's just precious little available radio time for rock as compared to the 90s and even the early 00s, so you have to look for it. 

 

The Gaslight Anthem, Against Me!, The Menzingers, The 1975, The Killers, Red City Radio, Muse, The Ruse, Foo Fighters, The White Stripes, The Strokes, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Spoon...then there's harder stuff and more emo stuff that objectively is good music but isn't everyone's taste. Examples include Good Charlotte, Bad Omens, Godsmack, I Prevail, August Burns Red, A Perfect Circle, Chevelle, The Amity Affliction, A Day to Remember, etc...

 

The lists can run for a while. Hard to do a Mt. Rushmore style top four so soon after or during an era of music though.

Yes there was

 

Black Keys and Auerbach also

[Jauronimo]

35 minutes ago, LeviF said:

 

I've repeated it in these fora until I'm blue in the face but there was good rock music being made as the 2000s rolled on into the 2010s and still is now. There's just precious little available radio time for rock as compared to the 90s and even the early 00s, so you have to look for it. 

 

The Gaslight Anthem, Against Me!, The Menzingers, The 1975, The Killers, Red City Radio, Muse, The Ruse, Foo Fighters, The White Stripes, The Strokes, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Spoon...then there's harder stuff and more emo stuff that objectively is good music but isn't everyone's taste. Examples include Good Charlotte, Bad Omens, Godsmack, I Prevail, August Burns Red, A Perfect Circle, Chevelle, The Amity Affliction, A Day to Remember, etc...

 

The lists can run for a while. Hard to do a Mt. Rushmore style top four so soon after or during an era of music though.

Against Me, Rise Against, and pretty much anything playing on a rock station these days all sounds like Creed to me and I mean that in the only way possible. 

 

Its a sad state of affairs but I have not found a new band or artist of any genre that I care about in the last 5 to 10 years.  Most of what I'm finding is a new appreciation for bands that I overlooked in the 90s and early 2000s.  I really didnt think it would happen to me.

Edited March 20, 2023 by Jauronimo

[LeviF]

11 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

Against Me, Rise Against, and pretty much anything playing on a rock station these days all sounds like Creed to me and I mean that in the only way possible. 

 

Its a sad state of affairs but I have not found a new band or artist of any genre that I care about in the last 5 to 10 years.  Most of what I'm finding is a new appreciation for bands that I overlooked in the 90s and early 2000s.  I really didnt think it would happen to me.

 

Rise Against is pretty tired. Against Me I haven't actually heard anything that they've made since the sex change lol

[teef]

has anyone mentioned chumbawamba?

[DrDawkinstein]

1 hour ago, LeviF said:

 

I've repeated it in these fora until I'm blue in the face but there was good rock music being made as the 2000s rolled on into the 2010s and still is now. There's just precious little available radio time for rock as compared to the 90s and even the early 00s, so you have to look for it. 

 

The Gaslight Anthem, Against Me!, The Menzingers, The 1975, The Killers, Red City Radio, Muse, The Ruse, Foo Fighters, The White Stripes, The Strokes, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Spoon...then there's harder stuff and more emo stuff that objectively is good music but isn't everyone's taste. Examples include Good Charlotte, Bad Omens, Godsmack, I Prevail, August Burns Red, A Perfect Circle, Chevelle, The Amity Affliction, A Day to Remember, etc...

 

The lists can run for a while. Hard to do a Mt. Rushmore style top four so soon after or during an era of music though.

 

First off, great post. And great point. There is a lot of great new music out there. The trouble is finding it.

 

Radio isnt the place to find new music anymore regardless of genre. Radio is only playing whatever iHeart/Sinclair/Whoever is being paid the most to play. It's impossible for new artists to get played on the radio. Radio isnt launching any careers, too much risk in maybe not making money. They only play what pays.

 

I've found a TON of new, fresh, modern rock thanks to Spotify.

 

My recommendation for folks looking for new music: Go to your favorite artist's spotify page, for example Queens of the Stone Age, then go to the Queens of the Stone Age Radio playlist and/or the "Fans also like..." section.

 

From there, you can find great new bands like The Black Angels and Band of Skulls.

 

Take it a step deeper by going to those bands' Radio Playlists and "Fans also like...", and boom, endless supply of new music.

 

 

Edited March 20, 2023 by DrDawkinstein

[LeviF]

2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

 

I've found a TON of new, fresh, modern rock thanks to Spotify.

 

 

 

Same here with Apple Music, similar setup. Eventually they make a "radio station" based off of your listening habits and they'll surprise you with stuff you've never heard but are reasonably close in content and genre to your most played music. Then there's "radio stations" for "*insert top played band here* and Similar Artists." So on and so on. 

 

As much as I enjoy vinyl, it beats the hell out of digging through milk crates and guessing.

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, LeviF said:

 

Same here with Apple Music, similar setup. Eventually they make a "radio station" based off of your listening habits and they'll surprise you with stuff you've never heard but are reasonably close in content and genre to your most played music. Then there's "radio stations" for "*insert top played band here* and Similar Artists." So on and so on. 

 

As much as I enjoy vinyl, it beats the hell out of digging through milk crates and guessing.

 

Nice, yeah, I figured most streaming services were similar. So whichever you are using. Great place to dig without much investment.

[muppy]

10 hours ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said:

Motoring on, PJ Harvey deserves her own spot entirely, but this song is just too gorgeous to pass up:

 

 

 

and on the concept of gorgeous, I don't think there will ever be a song which can take me to a more perfect place in this world:

 

 

Except maybe My Generation off Live at Leeds, but I'm a romantic by nature...

melting. I adore PJ Harvey. my buddy in BFLO would buy her British imports back in the day #FIERCE

 

8 hours ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said:

Crap I spaced Bjork.  I'd imagine she'd be very much front and center on the Mts. Rushmore.  Fruitful writing:

 

 

And that OH MY GOD voice:

 

 

BRAVO 💃 talk abut a musical feast/fiesta Gracias 🙂 The music themed OTW threads have been Very fruitful lately. We are a fun bunch! I am sure many of us would be amigos in real life. But alas geography. So in closing I will just say thank you for the gift. everybody.  y'all are my Peeps :-)))))

 

Bjork is again unknown territory. Beautiful, Fragile, Stylish. How did I miss her? She's Fabulous !~!~!!! 

Edited March 20, 2023 by muppy

[GoBills808]

Sublime

Counting Crows

[muppy]

26 minutes ago, teef said:

has anyone mentioned chumbawamba?

check out the t-shirts lmaoooo

 

 

[teef]

1 minute ago, muppy said:

check out the t-shirts lmaoooo

 

 

i don't think i've ever seen chumbawamba.  i'm appalled. 

[muppy]

4 minutes ago, teef said:

i don't think i've ever seen chumbawamba.  i'm appalled. 

57 million views lol what a fun blast of the past lmao Chumbawamba made BANK on this song amigos. One hit wonders indeed~

Edited March 20, 2023 by muppy

[DrW]

20 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

First off, great post. And great point. There is a lot of great new music out there. The trouble is finding it.

 

Radio isnt the place to find new music anymore regardless of genre. Radio is only playing whatever iHeart/Sinclair/Whoever is being paid the most to play. It's impossible for new artists to get played on the radio. Radio isnt launching any careers, too much risk in maybe not making money. They only play what pays.

 

I've found a TON of new, fresh, modern rock thanks to Spotify.

 

My recommendation for folks looking for new music: Go to your favorite artist's spotify page, for example Queens of the Stone Age, then go to the Queens of the Stone Age Radio playlist and/or the "Fans also like..." section.

 

From there, you can find great new bands like The Black Angels and Band of Skulls.

 

Take it a step deeper by going to those bands' Radio Playlists and "Fans also like...", and boom, endless supply of new music.

 

 

 

As to the bolded, it depends. I am in the lucky situation that our university has a university-funded student-run radio station, playing mostly indie stuff. Without KTXT-FM, my music collection would look (and sound) much bleaker. This is where I first heard The Black Angels.

[Jauronimo]

6 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

First off, great post. And great point. There is a lot of great new music out there. The trouble is finding it.

 

Radio isnt the place to find new music anymore regardless of genre. Radio is only playing whatever iHeart/Sinclair/Whoever is being paid the most to play. It's impossible for new artists to get played on the radio. Radio isnt launching any careers, too much risk in maybe not making money. They only play what pays.

 

I've found a TON of new, fresh, modern rock thanks to Spotify.

 

My recommendation for folks looking for new music: Go to your favorite artist's spotify page, for example Queens of the Stone Age, then go to the Queens of the Stone Age Radio playlist and/or the "Fans also like..." section.

 

From there, you can find great new bands like The Black Angels and Band of Skulls.

 

Take it a step deeper by going to those bands' Radio Playlists and "Fans also like...", and boom, endless supply of new music.

 

 

The Royal Blood is my favorite newer rock band.  They were surprisingly good live too.

[LeviF]

2 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

The Royal Blood is my favorite newer rock band.  They were surprisingly good live too.

 

Maybe the best album of 2014

 

Edited March 20, 2023 by LeviF

[teef]

7 minutes ago, muppy said:

57 million views lol what a fun blast of the past lmao Chumbawamba made BANK on this song amigos. One hit wonders indeed~

i once almost got into a drunken fight with a friend over who was the better band...chumbawabma or the presidents of the united states of america.    i was on the side of the presidents.

[DrDawkinstein]

4 minutes ago, teef said:

i once almost got into a drunken fight with a friend over who was the better band...chumbawabma or the presidents of the united states of america.    i was on the side of the presidents.

 

Definitely the POTUSA

[BringMetheHeadofLeonLett]

26 minutes ago, muppy said:

melting. I adore PJ Harvey. my buddy in BFLO would buy her British imports back in the day #FIERCE

 

BRAVO 💃 talk abut a musical feast/fiesta Gracias 🙂 The music themed OTW threads have been Very fruitful lately. We are a fun bunch! I am sure many of us would be amigos in real life. But alas geography. So in closing I will just say thank you for the gift. everybody.  y'all are my Peeps :-)))))

 

Bjork is again unknown territory. Beautiful, Fragile, Stylish. How did I miss her? She's Fabulous !~!~!!! 

Want your mind blown?

 

 

[teef]

11 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Definitely the POTUSA

of course.  i know it's a terrible argument, but the presidents are better.  i think tubthumping was the unofficial anthem for his fraternity at oswego, so he was very protective of it.

[DrDawkinstein]

2 minutes ago, teef said:

of course.  i know it's a terrible argument, but the presidents are better.  i think tubthumping was the unofficial anthem for his fraternity at oswego, so he was very protective of it.

 

I get it. It was also the official anthem at Sunny's in Fredonia while I was there. Great (hazy) memories and nostalgia.

[muppy]

6 minutes ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said:

Want your mind blown?

 

 

I just saw that she is headlining at Coachella this April. I'm sure that will be a great show. Her music is highly stylish as is she. Alas I won't be attending but there's aways youtube 🙂

 

m

Just now, DrDawkinstein said:

 

I get it. It was also the official anthem at Sunny's in Fredonia while I was there. Great (hazy) memories and nostalgia.

I had no idea that song was THAT popular and iconic. Now I will need to investigate POTUSA I know zilcho about that band.

[DrDawkinstein]

4 minutes ago, muppy said:

I had no idea that song was THAT popular and iconic. Now I will need to investigate POTUSA I know zilcho about that band.

 

For anyone that was attending a college in the 1997-1998 school year, it is a piece of our history.

 

 

[BritBill]

16 hours ago, teef said:

has anyone mentioned chumbawamba?

 

I did but I got knocked down. 

Edited March 21, 2023 by BritBill

[teef]

1 hour ago, BritBill said:

 

I did but I got knocked down. 

But did you get up again?

[BritBill]

Just now, teef said:

But did you get up again?

 

yes. Never gonna keep me down.

[SirAndrew]

Nirvana is the only band who truly separates themselves from the pack in the 90’s. There’s 90’s bands I like, but none are next level like bands of the 60’s-80’s. The biggest 90’s bands had short commercial peaks compared to top artists of previous generations. 

Edited March 21, 2023 by SirAndrew

[SirAndrew]

On 2/9/2023 at 9:28 AM, Doc said:

 

I was well on top of the 90's music scene.  It was the soundtrack of med school and residency for me.  

 

GGD were a really good band and best of all were from Buffalo.  Iris is an amazing song and is perfect for CoA.  But their time was fleeting and limited mainly to the late 90's.  They sold 7.5M albums while a band like Soundgarden sold 14M without having their songs featured in movies.  That's why I can't put them on the MR of the 90's without feeling like a homer.  But hey, that's just me.

I agree with the Mount Rushmore point, but I think people forget the power of one song to maintain a legacy. The legacy of 90’s bands hasn’t been fully written. A song like Iris has the potential to be a sensation for years to come. Look at a tune like Don’t Stop Believin’. I see Iris as having similar potential.
 

The music business is in rough shape, many top 100 songs on streaming services were released over twenty years ago. That’s what keeps songs like Iris in the spotlight. It’s also a tune that appeals to a broad demographic. Soundgarden might have sold a ton of records, but they appealed to a narrow demographic who bought up those albums. I wouldn’t be shocked if Iris makes GGD more universally known than bands like Soundgarden in the future. 

[muppy]

19 hours ago, teef said:

of course.  i know it's a terrible argument, but the presidents are better.  i think tubthumping was the unofficial anthem for his fraternity at oswego, so he was very protective of it.

MEOW.....lmao first time listen OUTSTANDING!~!~!!!

 

 

[BillsPride12]

 The Presidents of the United States of America might be one of the greatest one hit wonder bands of all-time!  Peaches was on the radio 24/7 back then LOL