CincyBillsFan Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 10 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: You have a once in a generation qb. You should be surrounding him with every offensive resource available. But instead our defensive HC spends 65% of his resources on defense. Why do you think he aggressively went after Von. Because his 3 drafted DE's were hardly elite. I know it's sacrilegious on this board to critique McD. He got a pass after :13. Does he get another today if we can't get past 3 backup olineman? Let's not kid ourselves people, our "bend don't break" defense is the reason Josh feels he has to be Superman. 83% of the offense. I want to start by saying I respect McD and believe he is the reason the Bills have gone from the trash heap of the NFL to being among the elite teams. BUT, today is going to be an assessment of just how far a defensive minded organization can take a team in the modern NFL. On paper the Bills should win this game. Our investment in the D, particularly the D line, should pay huge dividends against an offense missing 3 starters on the O line. The Bills have chosen to copy the Carolina Panther approach of relying on an elite QB to lift the offense while pushing the majority of resources to the defense. It kind of worked for the Panthers with a SB appearance but that was in an older NFL. Can this work today? I'm not sure. I hope it can but it remains to be seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 14 hours ago, ArtVandalay said: Should give us an advantage vs offenses but we shall see. We have the best QB (shouldn't be an argument with a hobbled Mahomes) and a defensive coach. Either this recipe works this year or never. Bengals have a tattered OLine, Mahomes has 1 leg, will not get another opportunity like this, let's get it. Put up or shut up. Now or never. Thanks for the well thought out post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 52 minutes ago, TuelTime said: Not that I don't like McD but there is a reason there was a 20 year drought and a reason why McD has been successful and they are not all because he is some great coach. The 20 year drought coincides with Tom Brady being in the AFC East, and McD's success coincides with Brady's departure. As a head coach McD has been absolutely awful making in game decisions like challenges, and timeouts, etc. I think coaches get WAY to much credit in a team's success and failures that then deserve, at least at the NFL level where player talent is so high. We made the playoffs twice while Brady was still in NE. So no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: You have a once in a generation qb. You should be surrounding him with every offensive resource available. But instead our defensive HC spends 65% of his resources on defense. Why do you think he aggressively went after Von. Because his 3 drafted DE's were hardly elite. I know it's sacrilegious on this board to critique McD. He got a pass after :13. Does he get another today if we can't get past 3 backup olineman? Let's not kid ourselves people, our "bend don't break" defense is the reason Josh feels he has to be Superman. 83% of the offense. Every offensive resource available. Lol. well, KC traded away their best playmaker and used their 2 first rd picks on defense. They then selected a WR that they’ve barely used and followed up by spending 3 more draft picks on defense. mcduffie karlaftis Cook chenal williams all taken in the first 4 rounds. They replaced Tyreek by spending small money on juju and stupid money on MVS (and 2nd rd pick on Moore). Everything else was spent on D. Mahomes is a once in a generation QB too and they didn’t surround him with all the offensive resources available. They did the opposite this offseason. If the money invested in the D was healthy….. Josh wouldn’t have to be Superman. Injuries happen. It’s tough to replace von and Micah and still be a dominant d. KC put up 40 on SF when they were without Arik Armstead and had a banged up secondary. It‘s football. It’s not science. There are several ways to skin a cat. Edited January 22, 2023 by NewEra 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuelTime Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 10 minutes ago, FireChans said: We made the playoffs twice while Brady was still in NE. So no. Buffalo hasn't beat Brady under Sean McDermott. In their six meetings, Brady scores an average of 24.8 points per game and an average of 376.8 yards per game. Buffalo's defense has also forced seven total turnovers and at least one in all but one of those six games. https://www.buffalobills.com/news/top-5-storylines-to-follow-for-bills-vs-buccaneers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Question??!!! Does anyone know what Mike Shula brings to our offense? Senior Offensive Assistant…. He’s got a ton of QB coach and OC experience. Was once HC of Alabama. What is it that he does? Has Beane or McD ever mentioned his role? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 5 hours ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: He had two fewer INTS than josh this year I believe. Fumbles bro. Add in the fumbles. Josh has like 75% more career fumbles than Mahomes and showing no signs of improving his ball security. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 14 hours ago, MJS said: Wait, so if McDermott and the Bills don't win the superbowl this year they will never win it? Why, exactly? The last time an HC Combo won their first super bowl together after their fourth season together was John Madden and Kenny Stabler in the 70's. Anything is possible, some outcomes are more predictable than others. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanoros Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 14 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: It took Andy Reid 20 years to win a Super Bowl They were lots of people who said he would never get it done either… he was always known as the guy who couldn’t get over the hump Thank you for bringing this up. MANY forgot those times (or weren’t around then), but that was the biggest knock on Reid that he couldn’t win a SuperBowl. Now look at him, no one’s saying that anymore, but Reid has always been a good coach and that never changed. Beane/McDermott have us in position to chase a SuperBowl year over year and that should not be overlooked. It’s much easier to be bad in the NFL than it is to be good, moving on from McDermott doesn’t guarantee success, and many act like it would. Regardless of how this postseason plays out, there is no reason to consider moving on from McDermott or Beane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 To be fair zac Taylor is not good at coaching anything lol bengals are good in spite of him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 43 minutes ago, TuelTime said: Buffalo hasn't beat Brady under Sean McDermott. In their six meetings, Brady scores an average of 24.8 points per game and an average of 376.8 yards per game. Buffalo's defense has also forced seven total turnovers and at least one in all but one of those six games. https://www.buffalobills.com/news/top-5-storylines-to-follow-for-bills-vs-buccaneers 17 year playoff drought. 2 playoffs berths in 3 years with McD and Brady in the division. Who cares if we beat them head to head? Your point was wrong and silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: Thus my issue with their philosophy…. If even one prominent player gets hurt their defense seems to be brought down a notch…. How realistic is it to expect all those guys to remain healthy for a 17 game season plus playoffs?… all the meanwhile you have borderline JAGs surrounding Josh and a poor offensive line infront of him because the head coach and GM go bargain bin shopping on that side of the ball…. Their defensive heavy philosophy will be tested today and next week(assuming they get there)…. Not sure how anyone can support more cap money and high round picks on defense with the offense secondary if the defense goes out there and gets pummeled in another playoff game. How many injuries have the chiefs had over the last 4 years on D? How many playoff games has Chris jones or Frank Clark miss? If Chris jones were to be out, so would the chiefs. It’s the same thing. Sucks for us that we lost 2 all pros. And we still went 13-3 and we’re in control of our own destiny. now daquan is out too. Our 3 biggest investment kn D this offseason; von, daquan and Phillips. 2 injured and the other is 50%. We saw them work over Mahomes in KC already. We know the investment was a good one as when they were healthy, they were awesome together. Injuries are a toll of the dice. We just happened to come up snake eyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: They worked over Mahomes in October of 2021 as well before getting annihilated in the playoffs. They’ve highly invested everywhere upfront and while the loss of Miller and Jones hurt, they still have two 1st and two 2nd round picks there on top of the money they paid those guys. They had tredavious in the first meeting. They didn’t in the 2nd We had von Miller this year. We had daquan. We beat them. Now we don’t….. and it hurts. what if we had invested 15M in Brandon Scherf…. And he was hurt and didn’t play this game? the injuries have prevented us from seeing if we did what was needed to do to get over the hump. Injuries end teams’ season every year. It hasn’t ended ours yet, but I think von and daquan playing in this game, would’ve made a difference. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 I’ve gotten roasted for calling him the next dungee. He’s got one quarter to prove us wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, aristocrat said: I’ve gotten roasted for calling him the next dungee. He’s got one quarter to prove us wrong He's proved all he can, I'd walk him and Frazier out the same gate and start over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfanatic8989 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Getting beat by the Bengals is not embarassing. Getting beat like this, by anyone, in our own home is embarassing. McD still has time here to change things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 52 minutes ago, NewEra said: They had tredavious in the first meeting. They didn’t in the 2nd We had von Miller this year. We had daquan. We beat them. Now we don’t….. and it hurts. what if we had invested 15M in Brandon Scherf…. And he was hurt and didn’t play this game? the injuries have prevented us from seeing if we did what was needed to do to get over the hump. Injuries end teams’ season every year. It hasn’t ended ours yet, but I think von and daquan playing in this game, would’ve made a difference. There will always be injuries, really bad excuse. The entire team was dominated. If we lost by a play or 2 maybe I could get on board. Cincy is literally pulling up and playing safe, and have been the whole 2nd half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 What a magnificent defensive effort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Im a Mcdermott fan. He change the whole culture in Buf. I defended him yesterday on this thread. Sean Payton is a better coach. His offense with Allen would be difference maker. I will take a 1 superbowl over 0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 2 hours ago, ScottLaw said: They worked over Mahomes in October of 2021 as well before getting annihilated in the playoffs. They’ve highly invested everywhere upfront and while the loss of Miller and Jones hurt, they still have two 1st and two 2nd round picks there on top of the money they paid those guys. Yeah, we had tredavious vs KC that game….., Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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