dje85 Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 (edited) Mods can we please combine the Hopkins was released post into this one. Not because of relevance but due to the fact it adds 10 pages of Hopkins speculation. Also, please get him Beane. Our offense would be ridiculous! Edited May 26 by dje85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 Merge the new thread into this one gents!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 Hopkins released time to get this to 300. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan619 Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 omg it s happening! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 Tempo is closed! Where are they taking D Hop? maybe if Hollywood Josh wasn’t chasing tail, we would have signed him by now! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 I never took the DHop flirtation seriously. Between the need to give up a pick, and the cost of his contract (versus our cap resources), it just seemed like a fantasy. But then DHop listed Josh first among QBs he wants to play for. And then he got released and became a FA able to choose his next team. Cost remains problematic but I'm starting to think this might, maybe, possibly happen. I do like our current receiving corps more than last year's group. But DHop certainly would add to the stress we could impose on enemy defenses. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilmann Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 1 hour ago, hondo in seattle said: I never took the DHop flirtation seriously. Between the need to give up a pick, and the cost of his contract (versus our cap resources), it just seemed like a fantasy. But then DHop listed Josh first among QBs he wants to play for. And then he got released and became a FA able to choose his next team. Cost remains problematic but I'm starting to think this might, maybe, possibly happen. I do like our current receiving corps more than last year's group. But DHop certainly would add to the stress we could impose on enemy defenses. It’s a real possibility. You can restructure or extend Dawkins and Hyde to free up like 11.4 and they can still restructure White. They still have some options left to free up more money 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 Can you imagine- Diggs, Hopkins, HoFcaid, Knox and Cook? Sheeeeeeeesh oh yeah, and Josh friggin Allen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 10 minutes ago, NewEra said: Can you imagine- Diggs, Hopkins, HoFcaid, Knox and Cook? Sheeeeeeeesh oh yeah, and Josh friggin Allen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 Terrible news that he got released, now this thread won't reach 300 pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 (edited) Though I'd like to see it, I feel as though between drafting Kincaid in Round 1 (a TE in name only), drafting Shorter in the 5th (who he already said he plans on "having a jersey" and developing), in conjunction with the moves he made for Harty (a 2 year, 9.5m deal with a 4.75 dead cap hit to release - more expensive to cut than keep this season) and Sherfield PLUS spending what little money we had left on Ford, Murray, Cline, and Ray, and completely filling out our 90 man roster - that Beane moved on from Hopkins and is happy with what he has. Maybe he makes him the kind of incentive laden "take it or leave it" deal he reportedly offered Yannick Ngakoue. But I don't see him going balls to the wall and offering what other teams surely will offer. Edited May 27 by BillsFanForever19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 (edited) 6 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Though I'd like to see it, I feel as though between drafting Kincaid in Round 1 (a TE in name only), drafting Shorter in the 5th (who he already said he plans on "having a jersey" and developing), in conjunction with the moves he made for Harty (a 2 year, 9.5m deal with a 4.75 dead cap hit to release - more expensive to cut than keep this season) and Sherfield PLUS spending what little money we had left on Ford, Murray, Cline, and Ray, and completely filling out our 90 man roster - that Beane moved on from Hopkins and is happy with what he has. Maybe he makes him the kind of incentive laden "take it or leave it" deal he reportedly offered Yannick Ngakoue. But I don't see him going balls to the wall and offering what other teams surely will offer. Keep 7 WR’s. Diggs Hopkins Davis Harty Sherfield Shorter Shakir Beane “moved on” because AZ didn’t meet his terms. Now, they can structure a contract however they like including multiple void years. If we do sign him, will be very intriguing to see if it’s like OBJ 1 year 15 mil with void years to bring cap hit to 3.5 or if we look to get him for 2-3 years Edited May 27 by Warriorspikes51 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 3 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Keep 7 WR’s. Diggs Hopkins Davis Harty Sherfield Shorter Shakir Beane “moved on” because AZ didn’t meet his terms. Now, they can structure a contract however they like including multiple void years. If we do sign him, will be very intriguing to see if it’s like OBJ 1 year 15 mil with void years to bring cap hit to 3.5 or if we look to get him for 2-3 years Yes, but Beane moving on is Beane moving on. He brought in players in the Draft that he has plans for and filled the roster with players he has plans for. Beane isn't the type to move on from someone, fill the positions the way he'd like with other players, and then double back and alter the group he already formed. Again, I hope I'm wrong. But to me it seems like he did a lot of work on the Pass Catchers already and probably feels like he's already addressed that the way he likes. At most, I see him offering him a team friendly, low risk, high reward, take it or leave it type deal. I can't see him offering an OBJ type level deal after everything he's already done. And that's probably what it's going to take. Best hope is that Hopkins wants to come here so badly that he'll take whatever we'll offer. But I'd bet there will be comparable teams that will be able to offer much more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 (edited) 4 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Yes, but Beane moving on is Beane moving on. He brought in players in the Draft that he has plans for and filled the roster with players he has plans for. Beane isn't the type to move on from someone, fill the positions the way he'd like with other players, and then double back and alter the group he already formed. Again, I hope I'm wrong. But to me it seems like he did a lot of work on the Pass Catchers already and probably feels like he's already addressed that the way he likes. At most, I see him offering him a team friendly, low risk, high reward, take it or leave it type deal. I can't see him offering an OBJ type level deal after everything he's already done. And that's probably what it's going to take. Best hope is that Hopkins wants to come here so badly that he'll take whatever we'll offer. But I'd bet there will be comparable teams that will be able to offer much more. I mean….it’s not often that All-Pro receivers get released…especially one who openly said he loves the Bills and would love to play with Josh Allen. the roster is at 90…but do you really think a fringe player is going to stop Beane from signing Hopkins if he wants to? this move would make everyone on the offense better. Hopkins has dropped only 3 passes in his last 315 targets. That is something this team badly needs Edited May 27 by Warriorspikes51 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills!Win! Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 So he will sign when we get to 300 pages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsavory Peterman Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 4 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Tempo is closed! Where are they taking D Hop? maybe if Hollywood Josh wasn’t chasing tail, we would have signed him by now! “Hollywood”…I like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I mean….it’s not often that All-Pro receivers get released…especially one who openly said he loves the Bills and would love to play with Josh Allen. the roster is at 90…but do you really think a fringe player is going to stop Beane from signing Hopkins if he wants to? In a vacuum? No. But the point is he spent his money and draft picks on a number of Pass Catchers already. He's built the roster with plans of how each player will be utilized and developed. Doing so with Hopkins already out of his plans. To add him would alter those plans of utilization and development for the guys he has brought in. Like I've said, I would like to see him come here. I would like to see it get done. But I don't see Beane a.) Drastically altering how he envisioned the core this late and b.) Paying what it takes at this point to do so. I feel as though when he spent the last bit of money and filled us to 90, he had put the finishing touches and final bow on the roster until Training Camp and he was happy with it. We'll see if that's the case or not. Edited May 27 by BillsFanForever19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 1 minute ago, BillsFanForever19 said: In a vacuum? No. But the point is he spent his money and draft picks on a number of Pass Catchers already. He's built the roster with plans of how each player will be utilized and developed. Doing so with Hopkins already out of his plans. To add him would alter those plans of utilization and development for the guys he has brought in. Like I've said, I would like to see him come here. I would like to see it get done. But I don't see Beane a.) Drastically altering how he envisioned the core this late and b.) Paying what it takes at this point to do so. Bringing in Hopkins to go with Diggs could greatly help the other WR’s learn even more. a.) it can be a 1 or 2 year deal b.) as long as Terry pays cash$$$, you can find ways to make it work 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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