Chaos Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 From my personal perspective, I like watching the Bills play every week of the season. During the four year Super Bowl run, I got to watch the Bills play every week. This was more important to me than winning the Super Bowl (would like to win one though some day). I was curious which coaches (with their current teams) where the most successful at extending their teams seasons. Please note, this is not an assessement of which coach is "best". Vince Lombardi was the same quality coach in Washington as he was in Green Bay, just less successful. It is just an objective measure of success. The first thing that startled me was that the NFL currently has 12 rookie coaches. NFL owners/gms are not a patient group. In terms of extending the season, a bye is the same as a playoff game for this measure. I was surprised to realize that Matt Lafleur is the most successful by this measure without actually getting to the Super Bowl. It also appears that the Steelers are by far the most patient ownership. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Don't see a whole lot there. Yes Owners/GMs are not a patient bunch. With Buffalo & McD, it is right now about winning and pundits will say 3-0 at home, 0-4 on the road (0-2 vs. KC). Oh & 0-2 in OT😡. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Interesting, but doesn’t really mean much to me, as Matt LeFleur has proven to be one of the worst coaches on that list. NFC is a much easier path. Also, schedule luck plays into this a lot. KC played Buffalo in round 2 last year. Bengals played the Titans. All this excel sheet sees is Bengals 1-0, Bills 0-1. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Thanks Chaos. I'm not sure how much we can glean from this in evaluating the coaches, especially those with less experience, but it's interesting nonetheless. It would appear that a ratio of around 1.0 is the baseline for "success" and maintaining your job after a few years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said: Don't see a whole lot there. Yes Owners/GMs are not a patient bunch. With Buffalo & McD, it is right now about winning and pundits will say 3-0 at home, 0-4 on the road (0-2 vs. KC). Oh & 0-2 in OT😡. And that's why we need the 1 seed Get that AFCCG in Buffalo and there's a different outcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted December 10, 2022 Author Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Rigotz said: Interesting, but doesn’t really mean much to me, as Matt LeFleur has proven to be one of the worst coaches on that list. NFC is a much easier path. Also, schedule luck plays into this a lot. KC played Buffalo in round 2 last year. Bengals played the Titans. All this excel sheet sees is Bengals 1-0, Bills 0-1. Whats your proof? One bad season? Or something else? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Wow 12 rookie coaches? I never actually realized that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted December 10, 2022 Author Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 hour ago, TheBrownBear said: Thanks Chaos. I'm not sure how much we can glean from this in evaluating the coaches, especially those with less experience, but it's interesting nonetheless. It would appear that a ratio of around 1.0 is the baseline for "success" and maintaining your job after a few years. I am not sure there is a ton to be gleaned. Its not an analysis of how good a coach it. It may be worth noting that 3 of the top 4 had Hall of Fame QBs on the roster for much of their success. Sean McVays run is remarkable compared to all others, when you consider the QBs he has had to work with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 He'll be top 5 in a cpl years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said: Don't see a whole lot there. Yes Owners/GMs are not a patient bunch. With Buffalo & McD, it is right now about winning and pundits will say 3-0 at home, 0-4 on the road (0-2 vs. KC). Oh & 0-2 in OT😡. Pundits will? Or you will? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Lefleur is not a good coach. He's wasted Rodgers best years. He's a guy with a headset that brings nothing to the table. Reminds me of Manning's coaches aside from Dungy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted December 10, 2022 Author Share Posted December 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Lefleur is not a good coach. He's wasted Rodgers best years. He's a guy with a headset that brings nothing to the table. Reminds me of Manning's coaches aside from Dungy. Lafleur has only been there since 2019. He went 13-3, 13-3, 13-4 and made the championship game twice. Did Aaron Rodgers best years really start in 2019 when he was 36? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Lefleur is not a good coach. He's wasted Rodgers best years. He's a guy with a headset that brings nothing to the table. Reminds me of Manning's coaches aside from Dungy. To be fair, he hasn’t wasted all of them himself. Mike McCarthy had a pretty big hand in that as well. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 27 minutes ago, Chaos said: Lafleur has only been there since 2019. He went 13-3, 13-3, 13-4 and made the championship game twice. Did Aaron Rodgers best years really start in 2019 when he was 36? It's a good question, but Brady's best years started when he was 37 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted December 10, 2022 Author Share Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: It's a good question, but Brady's best years started when he was 37 Brady won three super bowls before he was 28. All of his years were pretty good. Edited December 10, 2022 by Chaos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Pundits will? Or you will? I said pundits. Oh and I guess stating facts is a No-No? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said: Don't see a whole lot there. Yes Owners/GMs are not a patient bunch. With Buffalo & McD, it is right now about winning and pundits will say 3-0 at home, 0-4 on the road (0-2 vs. KC). Oh & 0-2 in OT😡. I just want to see our Defense in the playoffs have more stamina. We tend to get gassed in the 2nd half of playoff games. That's the ratio I care about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 If your front office is talented it makes a big difference in how well the coaches can do, When Pegulas came to Bills they did not insist coaches use friends of management which is big improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 19 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: I said pundits. Oh and I guess stating facts is a No-No? Facts are fine. But most pundits recognise the reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 22 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: I said pundits. Oh and I guess stating facts is a No-No? For you as long as those facts support your anti-McDermott crusade, I guess so. Otherwise, seems like no. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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