ChiGoose Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Pretty apt summation: "McCarthy and Crenshaw and their ilk convinced themselves that they could throw in with the world’s biggest grifter, tell lie after lie (after lie) to their own voters, campaign for a boat of shithouse rats so crazy that they make yesterday’s crazies blush—and at the end be rewarded with their loyal support. Absurd. Their time was going to come eventually. For My Kevin, it appears that time is today. He woke up on the biggest day of his life knowing he’d lose 5 votes on the first ballot and thinking he could lose 9 more. Throw in a wild card and the worst case was 15 no votes, when he could only afford to lose 4. What he found is that crazy begets crazy. Once the floodgates opened the 5 Never Kevin votes had ballooned to an unthinkable 19. And then the same 19 voted against him a second time. These 19 anarchists don’t have any tangible policy objections to a McCarthy speakership and neither do they have a realistic alternative. Their goal—their only goal—was to fight for the sake of fighting and show their constituents they are just as mad at the “elites” as they are. Their only alternative, Jim Jordan, is the man who oversaw the committee that expressed its vision for the party as “Kanye. Elon. Trump.” In other words: exactly the type of members that this party has cultivated for the past eight years. Responsible Republicans who want to run a governing party will eventually have to come to terms with the fact that there is no appeasing or accommodating their leopards. That no amount of submission to the orange idol that will do. That they are either in the boat with the lunatics or out here on the shore with the cucks. In the meantime, the votes and the claw marks will continue until morale improves." (Source) "I never thought leopards would eat MY face" sobs man running to lead the Leopards Eating Peoples' Faces Party 3 minutes ago, Albwan said: Stupid questions over and over...ask the question when we are we going to replace all the republican and democrat baddies and get back the government. Right now both parties suck *****. Only way to do that is to end First Past the Post voting and destroy the two party system. Push for reforms like ranked choice voting or approval voting to destroy both the Democratic and Republican parties and save the country. Any other proposed solution that doesn't end FPTP is a distraction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ChiGoose Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 15 minutes ago, BillStime said: With Gaetz and Jordan supporting different candidates, the pedophile caucus seems to be split in this race. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BillStime Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 1 hour ago, BillsFanNC said: 🎯 Is Trump’s infrastructure bill still two weeks away? Idiots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doc Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 2 hours ago, ChiGoose said: With Gaetz and Jordan supporting different candidates, the pedophile caucus seems to be split in this race. Yeah, Schiff supports Jeffries... And apparently a proposal was made to McCarthy last night that would have gotten him the required votes. He rejected it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, B-Man said: KEVIN CAN WAIT: McCarthy ends first day of speaker’s election on shaky ground. It’s messy, and Democrats are mocking it. Of course, Democrats all voted in lockstep for the same guy. Maybe the GOP should tell them, “this is what democracy looks like.” 😆 Then again, the traditional approach would have been for McCarthy to meet quietly with the Freedom Caucus and promise them enough to win their votes. It seems like he could have done that quite easily — most of what the Freedom Caucus wants is popular with GOP voters generally. Is the problem that what the Freedom Caucus wants is unpopular with the GOP donor class? And, of course, it’s harder to make deals when there are “overriding trust issues.” https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/house/mccarthy-ends-first-day-speakers-election-shaky-ground Nice to see the cult organized and ready to govern on day 1. What a missed opportunity to kick off those Hunter Biden investigations right away. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 38 minutes ago, B-Man said: KEVIN CAN WAIT: McCarthy ends first day of speaker’s election on shaky ground. It’s messy, and Democrats are mocking it. Of course, Democrats all voted in lockstep for the same guy. Maybe the GOP should tell them, “this is what democracy looks like.” 😆 Then again, the traditional approach would have been for McCarthy to meet quietly with the Freedom Caucus and promise them enough to win their votes. It seems like he could have done that quite easily — most of what the Freedom Caucus wants is popular with GOP voters generally. Is the problem that what the Freedom Caucus wants is unpopular with the GOP donor class? And, of course, it’s harder to make deals when there are “overriding trust issues.” https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/house/mccarthy-ends-first-day-speakers-election-shaky-ground I think it's simpler than that. It's personal. They don't like him. You can see it on their faces. Also, most of these members come from ruby red districts. They're trying out MAGA the normal R's and get reelected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 48 minutes ago, B-Man said: KEVIN CAN WAIT: McCarthy ends first day of speaker’s election on shaky ground. It’s messy, and Democrats are mocking it. Of course, Democrats all voted in lockstep for the same guy. Maybe the GOP should tell them, “this is what democracy looks like.” 😆 Then again, the traditional approach would have been for McCarthy to meet quietly with the Freedom Caucus and promise them enough to win their votes. It seems like he could have done that quite easily — most of what the Freedom Caucus wants is popular with GOP voters generally. Is the problem that what the Freedom Caucus wants is unpopular with the GOP donor class? And, of course, it’s harder to make deals when there are “overriding trust issues.” https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/house/mccarthy-ends-first-day-speakers-election-shaky-ground A strong leader would work across the caucus to inspire confidence and earn votes. Say what you will about Pelosi, she managed to get compromises with DemSocs and Blue Dogs. When they put a piece of legislation on the floor, nobody was getting everything they wanted but everyone felt they had been heard and their concerns were met. Confusing that with a party just being in lock step following the leader is as weird as looking at what’s happening with the House GOP caucus and thinking it’s because of competent democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 On the verge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Well, it looks like we will have 2 years of chaos ahead if this is how republicans intend to govern. Those 19 Rs aren’t interested in governing; only in making chaos to show their supporters that they are the real fighters. They have no policy agenda. The crazies are holding the party hostage. Maybe we are watching the start of a split in the Republican Party towards the creation of a third party. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Frankish Reich Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 4 hours ago, BillStime said: Is Trump’s infrastructure bill still two weeks away? Idiots Right after Trump's very excellent much much much better than Obamacare comprehensive health care plan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 4 hours ago, Andy1 said: Well, it looks like we will have 2 years of chaos ahead if this is how republicans intend to govern. Those 19 Rs aren’t interested in governing; only in making chaos to show their supporters that they are the real fighters. They have no policy agenda. The crazies are holding the party hostage. Maybe we are watching the start of a split in the Republican Party towards the creation of a third party. Will never happen. The closest third party challenger was Teddy Roosevelt who handed the presidency to Wilson by splitting the vote. That's exactly what would happen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 https://www.mediaite.com/tv/utter-unmitigated-disaster-karl-rove-declares-gop-infighting-on-house-speaker-just-beginning-as-chaos-brings-about-more-chaos/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) 48 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: https://www.mediaite.com/tv/utter-unmitigated-disaster-karl-rove-declares-gop-infighting-on-house-speaker-just-beginning-as-chaos-brings-about-more-chaos/ Interesting… sounds like they are fighting over who gets to control the investigation of the FBI. What a circus. Picture Paul Gosar leading an investigation of the FBI. This is the kind of craziness coming. Edited January 4, 2023 by Andy1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 4, 2023 Author Share Posted January 4, 2023 What a mess!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 14 hours ago, ChiGoose said: With Gaetz and Jordan supporting different candidates, the pedophile caucus seems to be split in this race. Holy smokes— add in Biden and his daughter’s diary, his acknowledgments on groping women, and the credible allegations of violent sexual assault, maybe we really are moving toward a one party system? 9 hours ago, Andy1 said: Well, it looks like we will have 2 years of chaos ahead if this is how republicans intend to govern. Those 19 Rs aren’t interested in governing; only in making chaos to show their supporters that they are the real fighters. They have no policy agenda. The crazies are holding the party hostage. Maybe we are watching the start of a split in the Republican Party towards the creation of a third party. Andy, glad to see you’re ok. We had the brief exchange the other day about Republican’s treating Santos with the Biden model and then poof, you were gone. This is like the PPP version of “Castaway”. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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