L Ron Burgundy Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 46 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: It might also embolden Biden to seek reelection. Trump will be a problem no matter what though. He'll either win the GOP nomination or run as a 3rd party candidate to spite the Republican party that he perceived turned on him. Now that, would be amazing. I could see it happen too. I'm referring to Trump rolling 3rd party obviously not Biden. No way he should get a 2nd term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backintheday544 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) Wow. I threw out exit polls we’re giving more confidence for Dems around 7 pm last night but didn’t expect this. NYT has the Dems most likely at 51 in the Senate. (One is GA which looks run off but Warnock has to be favored) House is at a projected 224 for Rep, so only a 12 seat change and very slim majority. It’ll be interesting to see where that number lands. With all the factors so heavily favoring the Republicans in this election, this can’t be seen as anything other than an embarrassment. I guess abortion was a little higher on voter radars than posters in here were saying. Where do the Republicans go from here? They lost a Presidential election to a terrible candidate. They lost a slam dunk mid-term. The party has to be ready to get rid of Trump after last night. - Also worry excited by the Boebert news. This should be the most eye awakening result for the people on here even if Boebert ends up keeping her seat. (She’s down about 5k votes right now) Currently a +2 for Dems in governor mansions too! Edited November 9, 2022 by Backintheday544 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Doc Brown said: It might also embolden Biden to seek reelection. Trump will be a problem no matter what though. He'll either win the GOP nomination or run as a 3rd party candidate to spite the Republican party that he perceived turned on him. Trump won’t run to lose as a 3rd party. His ego won’t permit that. Cheney on the other hand, would run as a third party to spoil a Trump campaign. Republican lesson narrative: Stop putting up bad candidates. PA would have been an easy win with a moderate actually from PA. Georgia, I mean Jesus wept there. Moderate Rs would have won in the hoped-for tsunami. But the base controls the primaries. The Forward Party has it right in their three prongs. Fix the system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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May Day 10 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Overall, I'd say a terrible night for Donald Trump. He will say it's good though, except where he was cheated, and make his announcement in 2 weeks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 The future voters of this country for decades to come 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 5 hours ago, SCBills said: GOP will flip it and talk about candidate quality (fair) and how they made a lot of inroads towards taking the House in ‘20 which is why tonight isn’t so eye opening on that end (also fair). They’ll also point to the map for Congress being much better for the GOP in ‘24 (again, fair) But the the overarching takeaway from tonight is that Trump is toxic and he, for the second election in a row, completely f***ed over the GOP by pushing his candidates. Abortion messaging needs to be better for R’s, but I don’t see this being a massive issue again in ‘24, given the recency power of this fading. It will be an issue, but not the damaging one that drives northern democrats in their obsession to legalize any/all killing of unborn children. It also doesn’t totally add up given abortion measures are state level policy and DeSantis, Kemp, Dewine, Abbott all did phenomenal…. All signed abortion restrictions. Ya…well your take on women’s rights is pretty much…..wrong. GOP hatched a group of women and young voters who will never vote GOP….see above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Tiberius said: The future voters of this country for decades to come I figured dems would lose today but long term Republicans are f'd. May be as soon as 8 to 10 years. 1st world countries are becoming more progressive and less religious. Hopefully we can push this in a smart way because the left often has not. Edited November 9, 2022 by L Ron Burgundy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) 58 minutes ago, TH3 said: Ya…well your take on women’s rights is pretty much…..wrong. GOP hatched a group of women and young voters who will never vote GOP….see above It’s not. Feel free to be knee jerk reflexive, but the first election post-Roe where R’s went for the kill shot on abortion is not indicative of where the issue will remain moving forward. Every single poll on this shows public sentiment is heavy on legal access through 15 weeks, and then exceptions thereafter. Northern R’s do have an abortion messaging problem though .. as that’s a big reason why Fetterman won, Hassan cruised and Ron Johnson barely escaped. Meanwhile Kemp, Abbott and DeSantis all signed abortion restrictions and expanded their popularity in state. Can’t just pick and choose… Kemp signed one of the strictest abortion laws in the country and won by 8 points. R’s have to continue their Hispanic outreach to offset the fact the Dem Party is essentially the party of women and blacks. Big story re: Gen Z is not that they voted Dem.. That’s always the case with the youngest voting generation. It’s the turnout that was impressive in certain states. Expecting those people to not grow older, have families etc and do the same progression towards the center/right every other generation does is … strange. Although, maybe culture shifts towards workplace trends and marriage/family do keep a larger majority in a place where they stay progressive for life. All the more reason for R’s to embrace DeSantis/Youngkin types and their vibe shift focus on building the party around the white working class, hispanics, suburban moms and small business owners. The political realignment is going to be interesting. Edited November 9, 2022 by SCBills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 34 minutes ago, SCBills said: All the more reason for R’s to embrace DeSantis/Youngkin types and their vibe shift focus on building the party around the white working class, hispanics, suburban moms and small business owners. whichever small business owners are still left in a couple years, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Arizona is a joke. Figure it out. Nobody has a clue on that state and it’s 8 am the next day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted November 9, 2022 Author Share Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) 55 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said: I figured dems would lose today but long term Republicans are f'd. May be as soon as 8 to 10 years. 1st world countries are becoming more progressive and less religious. Hopefully we can push this in a smart way because the left often has not. This has been the case for over 50 years - 18-29 vote D and are usually around 10% of the vote. The highest share (14% in NC) they voted 44% for Rs. Pretty close to that in FL to. That’s a red flag by any measure. The Ds lost every other age group the last data I saw - razor close but lost. Edited November 9, 2022 by Big Blitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Pennsylvanians are going to get what they deserve for voting in that brain dead Fetterman. Dude doesn't understand spoken language--and he can barely utter a coherent sentence of his own. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted November 9, 2022 Author Share Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) R +7 —- DOOOOM Edited November 9, 2022 by Big Blitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Just now, boater said: Pennsylvanians are going to get what they deserve for voting in that brain dead Fetterman. Dude doesn't understand spoken language--and he can barely utter a coherent sentence of his own. Oz terrible too. Some of these races the choices are terrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Oz terrible too. Some of these races the choices are terrible Fetterman/Oz and Walker/Warnock is embarrassing for this country. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Just now, SCBills said: Fetterman/Oz and Walker/Warnock is embarrassing for this country. While your at it trump/Biden 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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