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6 minutes ago, Westside said:

Or just go to any democrat run cities and see the same thing. 

Solid point.  Hoax.  Next time you see a burned out tank in LA, NYC or, for that matter, Buffalo, let us know.  Maybe even take a selfie next to it.  In your MAGA hat.  With a cig, some jack, and an FJB t-shirt.  While you secretly fret about your social security benefits.  That would be awesome. 

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1 minute ago, Westside said:

Are you saying drugs and violence are not an issue in blue cities? 

I believe the issue on the floor was airstrikes and burned out tanks.  I, for one, haven’t seen the Antifa Air Force, especially not since Trump lost in 2020.  Maybe you have.  Take a photo if you have the chance.  In MAGA gear, of course.  Will be wild!

Just now, Tiberius said:

Where are they not an issue? Rural pill popping country is flooded in drugs and guns and wife beaters 

 

 

Not to mention a lot of public assistance dollars, which true conservatives would reject on principle.  But I digress. 

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1 minute ago, SectionC3 said:

Solid point.  Hoax.  Next time you see a burned out tank in LA, NYC or, for that matter, Buffalo, let us know.  Maybe even take a selfie next to it.  In your MAGA hat.  With a cig, some jack, and an FJB t-shirt.  While you secretly fret about your social security benefits.  That would be awesome. 

And just a side point, Buffalo has been looking better lately. 

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21 minutes ago, Westside said:

Are you saying drugs and violence are not an issue in blue cities? 


 

The rate of murders in the US has gone up at an alarming rate. But, despite a media narrative to the contrary, this is a problem that afflicts Republican-run cities and states as much or more than the Democratic bastions.

In 2020, per capita murder rates were 40% higher in states won by Donald Trump than those won by Joe Biden.

 8 of the 10 states with the highest murder rates in 2020 voted for the Republican presidential nominee in every election this century.

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Just now, nedboy7 said:


 

The rate of murders in the US has gone up at an alarming rate. But, despite a media narrative to the contrary, this is a problem that afflicts Republican-run cities and states as much or more than the Democratic bastions.

In 2020, per capita murder rates were 40% higher in states won by Donald Trump than those won by Joe Biden.

 8 of the 10 states with the highest murder rates in 2020 voted for the Republican presidential nominee in every election this century.

Bullocks. If you’re trying to say blue cities are safer than red cities, then you need to stop. I wouldn’t walk down the street of a urban democratic run city for all the money in the world.

Let’s face it, democrat run cities are not safe. Violence and drugs are part of the urban culture. 

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3 minutes ago, Westside said:

Bullocks. If you’re trying to say blue cities are safer than red cities, then you need to stop. I wouldn’t walk down the street of a urban democratic run city for all the money in the world.

Let’s face it, democrat run cities are not safe. Violence and drugs are part of the urban culture. 


just stating facts.

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1 minute ago, DRsGhost said:

Not a hoax.

 

 

Also not a hoax

 

 

Still not a hoax

 

 

Not a hoax. 

 

 

Not a hoax. Caused by the wind? Hoax.

 

 

None of these are hoaxes. Calling Kamala President Harris though, hoax.

 

 

And yet such an excellent president! 

 

So happy he beat Trump...soundly! Cry baby Trump still cries he is the real president. Sore loser! 

 

Go Biden 

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29 minutes ago, Westside said:

Lol. Ok 😆😆😆

 

You are too used to being brain washed. 

 

Large blue states that have attracted criticism from Republicans had murder rates significantly below the national average. New York's rate was 4.11 murders per 100,000 residents and California's was 5.59. According to the study, Mississippi's murder rate was 400% higher than New York's and 250% higher than California's.

Republicans and the media have also focused on Democratic-led cities in coastal states, but many Republican-led cities have posted much higher murder rates. Despite intensive media coverage of increasing crime in House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's San Francisco district, the murder rate in that city was only half that of House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy's district in Bakersfield, a Southern California city with a Republican mayor that overwhelmingly voted Trump. Jacksonville, Florida, another Republican-led city, had 120 more murders than San Francisco did in 2020 (with only a slightly larger population) but received a tiny fraction of the national news coverage.

Jacksonville, which had a murder rate of 19.78 per 100,000 residents, and other Republican-led cities like Tulsa (19.64), Fresno, California (14.09), Bakersfield (11.91), Oklahoma City (11.16), and Lexington, Kentucky (10.61), have much higher murder rates than the two biggest cities in the nation, New York (5.94) and Los Angeles (6.74). Some Democratic-led cities, including Chicago (28.49) and Houston (17.32), have certainly seen alarming increases in crime, but Fox News coverage and Republican rhetoric has focused vastly more on those examples than on comparable cities with Republican mayors.

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21 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

 

You are too used to being brain washed. 

 

Large blue states that have attracted criticism from Republicans had murder rates significantly below the national average. New York's rate was 4.11 murders per 100,000 residents and California's was 5.59. According to the study, Mississippi's murder rate was 400% higher than New York's and 250% higher than California's.

Republicans and the media have also focused on Democratic-led cities in coastal states, but many Republican-led cities have posted much higher murder rates. Despite intensive media coverage of increasing crime in House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's San Francisco district, the murder rate in that city was only half that of House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy's district in Bakersfield, a Southern California city with a Republican mayor that overwhelmingly voted Trump. Jacksonville, Florida, another Republican-led city, had 120 more murders than San Francisco did in 2020 (with only a slightly larger population) but received a tiny fraction of the national news coverage.

Jacksonville, which had a murder rate of 19.78 per 100,000 residents, and other Republican-led cities like Tulsa (19.64), Fresno, California (14.09), Bakersfield (11.91), Oklahoma City (11.16), and Lexington, Kentucky (10.61), have much higher murder rates than the two biggest cities in the nation, New York (5.94) and Los Angeles (6.74). Some Democratic-led cities, including Chicago (28.49) and Houston (17.32), have certainly seen alarming increases in crime, but Fox News coverage and Republican rhetoric has focused vastly more on those examples than on comparable cities with Republican mayors.

San Francisco’s issues are more with drugs, bums, and other quality of life issues than murders per capita. Republican led areas are certainly not immune, but what are their policies on arresting, holding and prosecuting criminals? Bad Democrat policies on such things have a huge ripple effect on the law abiding citizens in these cities - even in high crime areas. A large percentage of murders in such areas are gang related and not targeted to bystanders. Of course, they can and do affect innocents living in those areas. You can twist numbers to make any point, but Republican and Democrat policies on law enforcement and crime are vastly different. Crime exists everywhere, but Democrat policies vilify law enforcement and victims while coddling and emboldening criminals. 

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1 hour ago, BillStime said:

 

Why should the majority placate the fringe?

 

 


I’m still waiting for you to explain what MAGA means to conservatives and what makes it fascism?  Can you at least give it a shot?  

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

You mean the richest places on the planet? Chicago, New York, LA...all super wealthy! 

 

 


And likely the biggest income disparities in the world.  Yay!  🙄

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17 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

San Francisco’s issues are more with drugs, bums, and other quality of life issues than murders per capita. Republican led areas are certainly not immune, but what are their policies on arresting, holding and prosecuting criminals? Bad Democrat policies on such things have a huge ripple effect on the law abiding citizens in these cities - even in high crime areas. A large percentage of murders in such areas are gang related and not targeted to bystanders. Of course, they can and do affect innocents living in those areas. You can twist numbers to make any point, but Republican and Democrat policies on law enforcement and crime are vastly different. Crime exists everywhere, but Democrat policies vilify law enforcement and victims while coddling and emboldening criminals. 


I think you have a reading comprehension issue from too many drinks on that boat. 
yes I imagine you puke often actually.  

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14 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:


I’m still waiting for you to explain what MAGA means to conservatives and what makes it fascism?  Can you at least give it a shot?  


And likely the biggest income disparities in the world.  Yay!  🙄


You’re still waiting, eh? lmao

 

Rabbit hole Jim 

 

There is a difference between conservatives and MAGA and you know it.
 

 

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36 minutes ago, BillStime said:


You’re still waiting, eh? lmao

 

Rabbit hole Jim 

 

There is a difference between conservatives and MAGA and you know it.
 

 


Rabbit hole?  You brought it up.  Looking for clarification. Please explain what makes MAGA fascist?  
 

Most conservatives believe in MAGA.  And this leads me to believe you have no clue what MAGA or Conservatism is. You don’t even know what you’re arguing about.  So let’s start with this.
 

1.  Define conservatism

2. Define MAGA

 

And if you hide behind you chicken ***** “rabbit hole” remark we’re done.   

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1 minute ago, Chef Jim said:


Rabbit hole?  You brought it up.  Looking for clarification. Please explain what makes MAGA fascist?  
 

Most conservatives believe in MAGA.  And this leads me to believe you have no clue what MAGA or Conservatism is. You don’t even know what you’re arguing about.  So let’s start with this.
 

1.  Define conservatism

2. Define MAGA

 

And if you hide behind you chicken ***** “rabbit hole” remark we’re done.   

Better yet…see if any of these people can define fascism. 

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3 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:


Rabbit hole?  You brought it up.  Looking for clarification. Please explain what makes MAGA fascist?  
 

Most conservatives believe in MAGA.  And this leads me to believe you have no clue what MAGA or Conservatism is. You don’t even know what you’re arguing about.  So let’s start with this.
 

1.  Define conservatism

2. Define MAGA

 

And if you hide behind you chicken ***** “rabbit hole” remark we’re done.   


MAGA = dying fringe

 

As much as you try to normalize and redefine MAGA - it will never work.
 

Keep spinning 

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8 minutes ago, BillStime said:


MAGA = dying fringe

 

As much as you try to normalize and redefine MAGA - it will never work.
 

Keep spinning 


So you either can’t or are afraid to give us YOUR definitions of MAGA and Conservatism?  I suspected as much.  Sounds like you have no clue what you’re arguing against. 
 


 

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2 hours ago, DRsGhost said:

Not a hoax.

 

 

Also not a hoax

 

 

Still not a hoax

 

 

Not a hoax. 

 

 

Not a hoax. Caused by the wind? Hoax.

 

 

None of these are hoaxes. Calling Kamala President Harris though, hoax.

 

 

 

Yeah, but at least he didn't tweet out "covfefe." :lol:

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1 hour ago, Chef Jim said:


So you either can’t or are afraid to give us YOUR definitions of MAGA and Conservatism?  I suspected as much.  Sounds like you have no clue what you’re arguing against. 
 


 

 

None of the above.  You will disagree with my definition and you will sugarcoat yours. 

 

MAGA is fringe + a cult + the arm pit of America

 

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1 hour ago, BillStime said:

Definition of a good Republican:

 

 


Defintion of MAGA:

 

 


That’s you definition of MAGA?  Ok…so you really don’t know anything about it.  But I was actually looking for YOU to define it.  When YOU hear the term Make America Great Again what comes to YOUR mind? 

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Biden and Trump are easily the two worst Presidents in the last 50 years of US presidents.  Historians will reflect on this era as a lost decade for the US Presidency. Lots of chaos and hot air, few accomplishments.  Their collective accomplishments pale in comparison to the others on the list.

 

I don't know who you'd rank below Trump and Biden.  

 

Nixon (until 1974)

Ford

Carter

Reagan

G Bush

Clinton

GW Bush

Obama

Trump

Biden

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On 9/7/2022 at 2:56 PM, nedboy7 said:


I think you have a reading comprehension issue from too many drinks on that boat. 
yes I imagine you puke often actually.  

Don't be a dick. 

22 hours ago, BillStime said:

 

None of the above.  You will disagree with my definition and you will sugarcoat yours. 

 

MAGA is fringe + a cult + the arm pit of America

 

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So,in other words, you just want to hate. Feel Free and knock yourself out. 

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6 minutes ago, Westside said:

Don't be a dick. 

So,in other words, you just want to hate. Feel Free and knock yourself out. 

 

Yep - that's me. Defending our democracy, a women's right to choose; pennies for the poor instead of tax cuts for the rich; a society not overrun by guns etc etc etc...

 

Can you feel the MAGA love?  gtfoh

 

 

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6 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

Yep - that's me. Defending our democracy, a women's right to choose; pennies for the poor instead of tax cuts for the rich; a society not overrun by guns etc etc etc...

 

Can you feel the MAGA love?  gtfoh

 

 

 

Ok let's go to the scoreboard.

 

1.  Red hats are a threat to our democracy.  Check

2. Middle fingers are a threat to our democracy.  Check check. 

 

I now see where you guys are coming from.  This is some scary *****.  

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