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Allen still is fairly significantly better on the Road than at Home. Splits don't lie. Thoughts as to why.


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I still think it has to do with Allen becoming too hyped at home, even though he plays music to calm himself down, etc...

 

My basis for thinking this is because in 2020 when there were no fans, the splits were nearly identical, home and away, although he was still slightly better on the road.  However, once the fans came back, again he was significantly better on the road, just as he was the prior year...which is pretty clear evidence that he either tries to do too much at home, is too pumped up to try and wow the home fans or there is something else going on. His rookie year he was pretty much even...mostly bad stat wise in both places.

 

2019 Split

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2020 Split(no fans)

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2021 Split(fans again)

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Career

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Don't get me wrong, I love the fact he lives for going into other teams houses, taking their lunch money and then laughing in their faces as they cry for Mommy, but it would be nice to see him get a little closer to his road performances at home on balance...

 

 

 

Also...the "more" primetime the game, the better he plays...improving each timeslot from early to afternoon to night.  

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1 minute ago, GoBills808 said:

The weather

 

To some degree sure...but the season with no fans where the splits were almost the same suggest there is more at play, especially considering the season before and after were tilted in favor of road splits.

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1 minute ago, Warcodered said:

A 3 game difference is a pattern?

 

Not wins-losses I am talking about...stats are significantly better on the road. 5% higher completion percentage in his career, passer rating 9 points higher, more TDs, fewer INTs, etc.

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last year specifically had some pretty terrible weather games.  

 

Pittsburgh game wasn't great.

Houston was a downpour to start.  

NE was a joke with that wind.  

Jets game was windy.

Atlanta and Carolina were pretty lousy weather wise.  

 

Like 6/9 games had pretty minus weather.  

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5 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

To some degree sure...but the season with no fans where the splits were almost the same suggest there is more at play, especially considering the season before and after were tilted in favor of road splits.

 

I'd say the windstorm game alone is a large degree.

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2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Sugar-rush Josh at home. Killer Josh on the road. Need Killer Josh 100% of the time. I think/hope the KC game was an eye-opener for him. He can be GREAT when he plays angry and focused.

 

I mean he legit pitched a perfect game at home against NE.  More TDs than incompletions.  

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Just now, dneveu said:

 

I mean he legit pitched a perfect game at home against NE.  More TDs than incompletions.  

 

I dont think anyone is saying there is an absolute rule, or he is never good at home. Just seems to do better on the road, in general.

 

OP isnt the first to notice this, and this isnt the first time it's been discussed. Plus, it's the offseason.

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3 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

I dont think anyone is saying there is an absolute rule, or he is never good at home. Just seems to do better on the road, in general.

 

OP isnt the first to notice this, and this isnt the first time it's been discussed. Plus, it's the offseason.

 

Yes...he for sure has really good games at home...but the majority of his really "bad" games seem to come at home as well. Can't really remember him having a terrible road game other than during his rookie year a few times. Maybe the Tennessee game in 2020 and oh yeah... the Jags game last year was brutal

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12 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

Not wins-losses I am talking about...stats are significantly better on the road.

It does matter. Winning always matters. 

 

Throw his rookie season out the door... Learning season and Josh's stats were that year. Let's start year 2 where he vastly improved.

 

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You have to look at how home crowd Noise helps compared to silence year 2.

 

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Throw weather into it. We had games with brutal weather/winds.

 

Then

 

Last year.. we added a game. I look at the last 2 years and do not see anything significant enough to how you state that Josh is better in away games.... 

 

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I think it's pretty obvious the weather is a factor.  Specifically, the weather last year.  Just ridiculous what the home slate was dealt.

 

 

Can't really expect a QB to kill at home when over half the games are poor weather games, and even worse... heavy wind games. 

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1 minute ago, PrimeTime101 said:

It does matter. Winning always matters. 

 

Throw his rookie season out the door... Learning season and Josh's stats were that year. Let's start year 2 where he vastly improved.

 

Then

 

You have to look at how home crowd Noise helps compared to silence year 2.

 

Then 

 

Throw weather into it. We had games with brutal weather/winds.

 

Then

 

Last year.. we added a game. I look at the last 2 years and do not see anything significant enough to how you state that Josh is better in away games.... 

 

 

5% completion difference in his career is pretty significant over an almost even number of games(30-31). Rating down 9 points at home.  More TDs and less INTs on the road.  

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3 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

5% completion difference in his career is pretty significant over an almost even number of games(30-31). Rating down 9 points at home.  More TDs and less INTs on the road.  

CAREER.. Take that first year of learning out of the equation man... its not 5%.. We want what Josh can do at his full capabilities... no one is going to look at what josh did his rookie year and compare ANTHING from that year. period...  did ya read anything i just said?

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1 minute ago, Process said:

Shocking. I wonder if it has anything to do with Buffalo being the worst weather city in the NFL?

gee I wonder... but seriously... you take out Josh's rookie season that started in disaster when he was supposed to sit much of that year... come on man.... 

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